When will this shit end?

[Toilet Duck]

6 minutes ago, mpdow2 said:

@Toilet Duck stupid question but can you drink alcohol the night before getting your vaccine? I have a friend who is getting 2nd dose on Monday which is the morning after the footy final. Fair to say he will drink win or lose. 

Shouldn’t really make a whole lot of difference other than layering side effects on top of a hangover! (I had feck all side effects mind you, arm a bit sore, tender probably the better description, and I slept like a log for a couple of nights)…

[Mr Boo]

53 minutes ago, fraybentos1 said:

This is absolutely insane. Nearly 20 percent of people support a 10pm curfew even regardless of covid and more than that want clubs and casinos closed forever. Who the fuck are these freaks?!?

I don’t know who they are, but they sound like very strict parents - ‘bedtime everyone it’s 10pm and no you are not going to that naughty South East corner of Glastonbury ever again, in fact you’re grounded forever and eat your greens 🥬’

Edited July 8, 2021 by Mr Boo

[jimmillen]

54 minutes ago, fraybentos1 said:

This is absolutely insane. Nearly 20 percent of people support a 10pm curfew even regardless of covid and more than that want clubs and casinos closed forever. Who the fuck are these freaks?!?

I’d want to take a very hard look at the methodology & sampling for that poll. Does seem pretty bonkers. 

[danmarks]

2 minutes ago, Mr Boo said:

I don’t know who they are, but I know they sound like very strict parents - ‘bedtime everyone it’s 10pm and no your are not going to that naughty South East corner of Glastonbury ever again, in fact your grounded forever and eat your greens 🥬’

10pm bst or gmt. These are very important questions. 

Ill be shafted on the eat your greens bit. 😋

[danmarks]

2 minutes ago, jimmillen said:

I’d want to take a very hard look at the methodology & sampling for that poll. Does seem pretty bonkers. 

Could be 10 people they've asked all at some kind of amish rally. That would skew the results. 

Gaurantee its not asking people at 3am tripping off their gourds 

[Mr Boo]

41 minutes ago, danmarks said:

Could be 10 people they've asked all at some kind of amish rally. That would skew the results. 

Gaurantee its not asking people at 3am tripping off their gourds 

I’m thinking the survey was completed by people who have been traumatised by  vampires and/ or have been abducted by aliens (not Spielbergs ET, the wrong Uns with the probes)- those supernatural / extra-terrestrial  problems wouldn’t happen if everyone stayed indoors at night.

Edited July 8, 2021 by Mr Boo

[DeanoL]

I'd imagine they asked something like "what measures would you be willing to live with?" rather than "what do you want?"

[WestCountryGirl]

45 minutes ago, Zoo Music Girl said:

Yeah our local pharmacy gives them out so just went and got a couple more! That would seem about right, but who knows?

I just happened to be in the city centre this afternoon - got 1 box from Boots ("second but last one!") then went to Superdrug and was given 2 because there are two of us in my household, then on my way home went into the local pharmacy and got another 1. My partner and I use them like yourself - before meeting large groups/people who might be a bit more vulnerable - so that should do us for a while! *Also, I've been going into the office a bit more and we are asked to do them for that too.

Edited July 8, 2021 by WestCountryGirl

[Zoo Music Girl]

19 minutes ago, WestCountryGirl said:

I just happened to be in the city centre this afternoon - got 1 box from Boots ("second but last one!") then went to Superdrug and was given 2 because there are two of us in my household, then on my way home went into the local pharmacy and got another 1. My partner and I use them like yourself - before meeting large groups/people who might be a bit more vulnerable - so that should do us for a while! *Also, I've been going into the office a bit more and we are asked to do them for that too.

Yeah I think I'll be following your lead and stocking up too. It's a small bit of mitigation that's easy to do for us.

[Guest]

 

[zahidf]

Which is why I think that we need to get rid of the restrictions asap. Some people get off on it

 

[efcfanwirral]

19 minutes ago, Ozanne said:

 

Number in hospital seems to be the most important now and, while a couple of days out, doesn't seem to be going anywhere near January peaks despite "hospitalisations" going up rapidly 

[stuartbert two hats]

3 minutes ago, efcfanwirral said:

Number in hospital seems to be the most important now and, while a couple of days out, doesn't seem to be going anywhere near January peaks despite "hospitalisations" going up rapidly 

Why "hospitalisations", rather than hospitalisations?

[Guest]

6 minutes ago, efcfanwirral said:

Number in hospital seems to be the most important now and, while a couple of days out, doesn't seem to be going anywhere near January peaks despite "hospitalisations" going up rapidly 

That’s very good news but given how under-pressure the NHS is it won’t take much more of the admissions we are seeing before things are very difficult (they are already in some areas).

[RobertProsineckisLighter]

21 minutes ago, Ozanne said:

That’s very good news but given how under-pressure the NHS is it won’t take much more of the admissions we are seeing before things are very difficult (they are already in some areas).

When is the NHS not under pressure? It's not designed to have loads of excess capacity (nor should it).

Did you care that it was under pressure every winter? What services are you prepared to lose to fund excess capacity? 

Edited July 8, 2021 by RobertProsineckisLighter

[efcfanwirral]

40 minutes ago, stuartbert two hats said:

Why "hospitalisations", rather than hospitalisations?

Because the word indicates/insinuates people staying in, and seems to be used independently of discharges/those who don't stay in

[steviewevie]

 

[DeanoL]

50 minutes ago, RobertProsineckisLighter said:

When is the NHS not under pressure? It's not designed to have loads of excess capacity (nor should it).

Did you care that it was under pressure every winter? What services are you prepared to lose to fund excess capacity? 

In normal times. Speak to doctors and nurses.

The NHS isn't just a machine. It's a load of human beings, human beings that have been under intense stress and pressure for over a year now. It's not just a case of saying "capacity is X, as long as we're below X, it's fine".

Think of the busiest, most high pressure week you've ever had at work. Now imagine working that week for a year straight. Then just when it comes to an end people start going "nah it's fine, they've shown they can do this, let's keep the pressure up".

I'm not saying that's a reason to stay shut down, or delay reopening or anything like that. But it's may be a reason to think about what you're saying and how you're framing it. It's people, not mechanisms. People can flex, and work extra hours, but only to a point and only for so long.

[Guest]

1 minute ago, steviewevie said:

 

I wonder how long till it gets more coverage with the main news channels/outlets?

Edited July 8, 2021 by Ozanne

[Ryan1984]

Any thoughts on this?

 

[BobWillis2]

2 minutes ago, Ryan1984 said:

Any thoughts on this?

 

Carole Codswallop

[Chapple12345]

Interesting thread on the implications 

[JoeyT]

 

[stuartbert two hats]

More modest deceleration in most areas of Manchester. Salford looks like it might be about to go green.

 

[Chapple12345]

18 minutes ago, JoeyT said:

 

Ready for this comment to age like milk, but with early promising data like this (mixed in with the euros and schools finishing soon) I think we could be in a very good place over the coming months and not as bad as feared. We've been vaccinating under 30s for a while now so surely some immunity must be kicking in for them and as they're the worst effected  group currently this will hopefully help us