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    2023 Headliners

    Yup. And I think those of us who think they are headlining have given up because we're working on a completely different perception to those that aren't. I think it's pretty much impossible to get across to people who weren't old enough to be cognisant of music in the 90s how big Pulp were at the time and how much Glastonbury factored in to that. Or they don't feel that that heritage/glastonbury link would have any impact on the booking.
  2. Yup, but they're expressed in different ways and that's what makes for interesting discussion. For Brits is when there is sun and beaches. For Americans when there is alcohol and university... I dunno, I just feel the notion that "all Americans are like this" or "all Brits are like that" or "all Chinese are like this" is *so* daft, like, obviously, people are different. So assuming anyone referencing one of these stereotypes actually means "I think all Americans are like this" seems like acting in bad faith to me. I don't think anyone on this board is that stupid, and I'd never assume someone was.
  3. Do you think there's no truth to that whatsoever, and Brits in Magaluf are just acting like folk from every other country?
  4. I'd imagine it's because Woodstock was in the US and was defined by this. Did Glasto '99 have a huge issue with lad culture?
  5. I think it's a hard stretch to say they were referring to all American's like that. As the discussion went on we've seen it narrowed down to "frat culture" which, as far as I'm aware, is still uniquely American. Most negative stereotypes we have are based in truth and reflective of at least a certain portion of the population. The reason it's "okay" to reference those stereotypes when discussing Americans is more to do with the fact that they've not had those terms and stereotypes used to excuse and justify hundreds of years of oppression and mistreatment.
  6. DeanoL

    2023 Headliners

    I mean I don't disagree on Taylor but do object on the instrument level - there's acts like Gogol Bordello and a whole genre of folk punk that definitely have high energy danceable, moshable songs.
  7. And the sad thing is the guy who was massively pushing for the government to throw out everything it thought it knew and start doing massive infrastructure stuff at a fast pace was Domonic Cummings.
  8. DeanoL

    2023 Headliners

    "My boys Coldplay have got certified bangers on loop tonight"
  9. DeanoL

    2023 Headliners

    In terms of the level of fame and the size of the booking for sure.
  10. I mean, the energy crisis really is pushing a lot of the middle classes into investing in solar. Try getting a solar installation in less than 6 months now you'll be lucky. So it's helping a little bit.
  11. If you need to dip in, you need to dip in. I would rather people be able to make rent/stay warm/eat and miss out on Glastonbury, than do without the essentials just so they theoretically still have a Glastonbury ticket (if they can get there, afford to eat there, etc.) I think it'd be against the festival's whole ethos to lock up more of people's money unnecessarily, when they might need it. If they really want to help the best thing they could do is waive the admin fee on having the deposit refunded. That way those who really need their money back can get it.
  12. Yup. People are acting like these are unsolvable problems. Can't find workers? Pay more. Pay construction workers on new nuclear sites £40K a year and they'll be lining up around the block. It's not cheap but money is worthless if we're all dead anyway. Doesn't have to be nuclear. Throw the same level of money and commitment at massive solar projects. They ultimately have the same issues, demand for solar installations is extremely high right now in the UK. But this thread highlights the problem, even with a group of people agreeing we need to do something, someone suggests something and it's "but that'll take too long". Given money is essentially a human construct anyway, the notion that we literally can't afford to save the human race is frankly fucking batshit.
  13. Everything takes long, or is difficult. Until there's an emergency and then we take a bit more risk and it gets much quicker. It takes 3 years to get a vaccine approved too. Until it doesn't. There's nothing inherent about a nuclear station that means it takes that long. "It'll take too long" and "It'll cost too much" are two things we are happy to ignore in an emergency. We just need to acknowledge that we are *in* an emergency. Which many still won't.
  14. Yeah but they won't really hit until end of October by which time the sale will already have happened, and many are not that good at planning ahead!
  15. DeanoL

    2023 Headliners

    I'd love Carter to play again but somehow I think a line-up of Carter USM, Moby and The Verve might not go down well. (I'm actually genuinely sad that Carter never did get to do Glastonbury again during the reformation period. Obviously much lower down the bill but would have been a great Leftfield/Avalon Stage headliner.)
  16. DeanoL

    2023 Headliners

    The BBC coverage sells tickets in October. Glastonbury has the popularity it does, and therefore the size it does and the sheer variety and level of acts, because it is so much part of the national consciousness. And that's 90% because of the blanket BBC coverage. They turn it into a real television event and so it gains this cachet as *the* big British festival. So you do have to cater for those audiences. And yes that might mean George Ezra headlining in 2024.
  17. DeanoL

    2023 Headliners

    Mumfords were huge for like, thirty seconds. It's just the festival happened to be booking headliners during that thirty seconds. It's only the past five festivals we've had headliners that have been consistently big. Mumfords, Kasabian, Gorillaz, The Verve, Kings of Leon, Basement Jaxx, Moby, Stereophonics, Travis, Skunk Anansie, Carter USM... All were only big enough to headline at the point they headlined. And some not even then...
  18. DeanoL

    2023 Headliners

    Yeah, I think the cost of living crisis could easily have the same level of impact on tickets next year as the two consecutive festivals of mud did in 2008.
  19. DeanoL

    2023 Headliners

    They just need one huge megastar to make the Pyramid brigade and the BBC viewers happy (and hence keep the cultural cachet of the festival). If you've got Macca, you don't need the other acts that year to be amazing. Same as if they get Elton next year (or Fleetwood Mac) - you have that, you can be more risky on the other acts. But if you don't have that one superstar legendary act, they tend to need an overall stronger bill of three headliners to get the same response.
  20. DeanoL

    Arctic Monkeys

    Part of it is that when you're that big, people are so excited about the new stuff, that if you do it live *that* becomes the first version lots of people hear. Recorded on a shitty camera phone with bad sound. If they played a new song it'd be all over YouTube in hours. That's not the way you want to get your new stuff out there.
  21. I'd also guess it has something with making swimming pools hard to fill up without a hosepipe.
  22. I'm genuinely not being disingenuous. Nor did I say it means you like sexual assualt. I said as you quoted: "Is it the feeling their might be sexual assaults or violence, without it actually happening?" I wasn't being a c**t with saying that. It was a genuine question, I was talking about the sense of danger, but without any actual danger. Which is seemingly exactly what you meant with this comment? Take the sexual assault out of what we're discussing as it's such an emotive thing, but that feeling that it *might* kick off? That it's on the edge and might turn into a fight at any moment? I've certainly been at gigs like that. I really don't like the feeling to be honest but I get that some might enjoy it. But that's the only thing that seems to separate energetic/lively from this "edgy" idea. I might be misconstruing you entirely but the only other time I've heard it talked about in terms of music is when people say Glastonbury lost its "edginess" after the fence went up, because all the organised crime went away and it became safe.
  23. So it means crowd surfing and pogo-ing? You could have just said that.
  24. Because they're not really concerned about the levels of water usage at this point. They're hedging a bit but we should be fine.
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