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  1. Are they? Water is limited by the amount in the reservoir, which became an issue last year. There's certainly not enough for everyone to wash their hands for two happy birthdays every time they use the long drops. And even with the existing sanitisation stations, they often weren't filled. I know people are desperate to believe that Glastonbury will happen but I don't think Wimbledon or sports events are suitable barometers is all.
  2. Because soap kills the virus and something like Wimbledon likely has more chance to actually put more hand sanitising stations and such in place, in a way that would be more difficult at Glasto (plus using just alcohol based hand sanitiser multiple times a day for five day can screw your skin up). Not to mention the front of any Glasto stage before a headliner will have people much more tightly packed and in close contact with each than in seats at Wimbledon.
  3. It wasn't but that could work "hello mate, track and trace here, we've had a report that I Heart Sausages has symptoms and is self isolating - were you nearer there or the Wolves flag during Taylor Swift?"
  4. Right, but you don't stay there for 5 days, it's not even 5 hours. Then you go home to running water and showers! That's fair, but the difference is in traceability - if you get ill afterwards a contact tracer can find out who you sat next to at Wimbledon. They can't find out who you were stood next to in front of Foals. In theory the app could help here but I have a feeling you phone battery wouldn't even last the day with the sheer number of flags it would be picking up.
  5. There's a huge difference in sanitation between those events. And handwashing is still likely to be important. Plus those events you're seated in a specific space so test and trace can work. Not saying festivals shouldn't go ahead, but we're kidding ourselves if we think Glasto is just as safe as Wimbledon.
  6. I think in isolation you'd be right but there's a few things that I think possibly make it a bit more risky: 1) The general distaste for Glastonbury by much of the media, coupled with its high profile - any chance to slag it will be taken 2) How early it is, compared to other festivals - it wouldn't have the defense that "all these other festivals were fine" - indeed, I think if there was an outbreak other large festivals would get a lot of pressure not to run 3) Sanitation. Both actual and perceived. Because if rules are relaxed, we won't be forgetting about COVID, it'll be bac
  7. Sort of depends how much you commit to it. You could run something like this 24/7. I'd be willing to get up at 4am to go get vaccinated against a deadly disease!
  8. I think there are two questions here. The first is "will a festival the size of Glastonbury legally be allowed to go ahead in June 2021?" and I think the answer to that is "yes". But that alone doesn't mean the festival will happen. There's a couple of questions that need to be answered by most festivals really. The first is "can we afford another year off?" - for many festivals the answer is quite simply "no". If they don't run in 2021, they're bankrupt. So if you're in that position, may as well try and run the festival anyway. I don't think Glastonbury are quite there. I think the
  9. It's a fair concern, but equally I feel like old-fashioned face-to-face logistics are something we're fairly good at? Not to mention the UK is very small geographically and extremely well connected by transport. I don't think they'll have many issues getting the vaccine out at high volume - the one place they might fall down is in organising who has and hasn't had it - given they'll be going to some sort of digital system and that's not worked well so far...
  10. And even if they didn't, if people want to follow the guidelines and gigs aren't, they won't go. And most gigs won't work if demand just drops by 20 or 30%. Probably - we'll continue to be sensible about it. When things opened up our attitude was it was fine to see people in our home that had been taking the same sort of level of risk as us (so working at home, not going to pubs, etc) but didn't want to increase our number of secondary contacts by loads. I'm worried there will be a bit of a multiplicative effect with the vaccine too: when many of those that have it literally stop
  11. I hope so, but I do wonder if much attention will be paid to mass testing anymore once the vaccine roll-out starts. Especially if they end up using some of the test centre infrastructure/staff for vaccinations instead.
  12. I dunno, sort of think that while there's a limited amount of the vaccine available, it should go first to people who want it. First vulnerable people that want it, then everyone else that wants it, then we can start focusing on convincing other people it's fine around March/April when we are approaching the point of having more vaccine than people who want it. Yes, this means a few vulnerable people will die who otherwise wouldn't have, but that is their choice to make. Obviously this would be different if the key point of the vaccine was to prevent transmission or build up a herd
  13. (I also don't think there's any chance that actual restrictions continue past March, nor I'd say should there be - the NHS issue will be solved. But instead the government will still be issuing advice, backed by the scientists - much of which will be: keep your contacts low, don't touch people you don't need to, try not to gather in groups of more than 6... along with advice for pubs, restaurants etc. on distancing - but crucially it will be advice, rather than law)
  14. That's the tricky bit and the crux of this for me - part of it will depend on evidence of it actually preventing severe disease and transmission. But without that, if it's belt and bracers - ie. I've had it, but pubs are sticking to table service, wiping down tables all the time, gigs are seated and no squeezing past people to get to your seat, people from different groups are still spaced out a bit (maybe 1m, not 2m) then yeah. But if it's back to a free-for-all, mosh pits, random hugs from strangers COVID is over let's party... then no I wouldn't feel more comfortable. It's like, I
  15. That's true, and it's promising, but even the scientists will tell you there's not enough data to prove it yet. We can agree to disagree, but equally, I'm being honest here about my own feelings on it and I hope we can agree that I definitely exist. And I have concerns still. I have gigs that were booked in last year that are getting moved to March/April and we're being told they'll be socially distanced if needs be and I'm still not sure I want to go. For me having the vaccine as it stands won't be enough to convince me to start going to pubs/gigs on its own. For you it will be. All
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