When will this shit end?

[steviewevie]

4 minutes ago, jimmillen said:

Spot on. This is the point everyone needs to accept: going for full steam ahead & reopening is a gamble.

From everything I’ve read, the odds are in our favour - vaccines seem to work against variants. And I can’t argue that there’s many economic and wellbeing benefits to reopening. 

But, but but… If the dice come up wrong then we’re fucked. 🤷‍♂️

We’ll just have to hang on for the ride and see where we are in a few months. I really hope we get away with it!

This virus wasn't just like flu like people were saying at the beginning, but the vaccines have now made it much more like flu, and something we can live with...(hopefully).

[efcfanwirral]

32 minutes ago, st dan said:

I agree with you, but you have to accept that us being susceptible to a virus (whether that be a mutation of Covid or new one entirely) is part and parcel of living on this planet. The scenario you have mentioned is no different to how things were pre Covid life, and its how we got here into this mess in the first place. If we want to live and interact, then the risks will always be there. 

 

27 minutes ago, jimmillen said:

Spot on. This is the point everyone needs to accept: going for full steam ahead & reopening is a gamble.

From everything I’ve read, the odds are in our favour - vaccines seem to work against variants. And I can’t argue that there’s many economic and wellbeing benefits to reopening. 

But, but but… If the dice come up wrong then we’re fucked. 🤷‍♂️

We’ll just have to hang on for the ride and see where we are in a few months. I really hope we get away with it!

 

24 minutes ago, Barry Fish said:

The alternative options are no less of a gamble and this is something you seem to choose to ignore.

Its not like its justifiable or even a realistic option to stay nice and locked up forever.

Yeah I think my point was a bit lost in that - less saying we should stay locked up and more along the lines of we really need this variant fear in the media to stop. If a bad one comes up there's literally nothing we can do about it and while I'd expect plans in place from the top, scaring the public daily with potential bad ones isn't going to help anyone when there are no restrictions to mitigate them. We only need to know at the point there is a confirmed issue (if that happens)

Edited July 9, 2021 by efcfanwirral

[andyrhodes24]

28 minutes ago, jannybruck said:

I work in recruitment and the genie is out of the bottle in terms of WFH – already we're seeing huge amounts of people shifting jobs and prioritising ones that offer either flexible working/hybrid/etc. One of the first questions people are asking now is if the business has WFH options.

Even if they're forcing people back in this year, companies will need to adapt long term or face a serious brain drain, basically.

I turned down a job last week partly because although they had flexible working it wasn't at all guaranteed. Job ad said "2-3 days a month in the office" but I could have been in the office zero days one month and 20 days the next. The employer lied through their teeth in the ad

[steviewevie]

Boosterism

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/jul/08/pfizer-covid-19-vaccine-booster-us

[Zacko]

12 hours ago, Zoo Music Girl said:

This. Fuck Sunak.

Slimy c**t.

I'd much rather my Tories stab me in the front with their awfulness, rather than his fake dishy-Rishi bullshit. 

Give me Patel over him any day, at least she's so clearly fucking awful that it's impossible to hide. 

[zahidf]

 

[hodgey123]

Have I missed something overnight? This thread is exceptionally quiet today.

[Fuzzy Afro]

52 minutes ago, hodgey123 said:

Have I missed something overnight? This thread is exceptionally quiet today.

It’s coming home 

[Fuzzy Afro]

While the level of protection is not quite as high as the rest of the population. 74% is very good news for the immunocompromised members of the community 

 

 

[zahidf]

Scotland cases going down 

[Gingerfish79]

1 hour ago, hodgey123 said:

Have I missed something overnight? This thread is exceptionally quiet today.

I think everyone has added so many people to their 'ignore' lists that there is nothing left to comment on! 🤣

[zahidf]

 

[zahidf]

Oopsie from fake SAGE

 

[Chapple12345]

Amazing how this is promising news and people automatically jump on the long covid bandwagon 

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[steviewevie]

52 minutes ago, Chapple12345 said:

Amazing how this is promising news and people automatically jump on the long covid bandwagon 

I mean, that's just one person on twitter.

[jimmillen]

6 hours ago, efcfanwirral said:

 

 

Yeah I think my point was a bit lost in that - less saying we should stay locked up and more along the lines of we really need this variant fear in the media to stop. If a bad one comes up there's literally nothing we can do about it and while I'd expect plans in place from the top, scaring the public daily with potential bad ones isn't going to help anyone when there are no restrictions to mitigate them. We only need to know at the point there is a confirmed issue (if that happens)

Ah, OK yeah I misunderstood - my bad.

[st dan]

Granted it’s only 3 counties to compare with, but an interesting graph nonetheless. Guess it goes some way to explain why our cases as so much higher than these are currently reporting. 
Not to go all Trump, but obviously it’s a case of the more you test the more cases you’ll find.

Edited July 9, 2021 by st dan

[steviewevie]

37 minutes ago, Ozanne said:

 

Thing is it might slow and actually start coming down, but then increase again as they open up fully? Or is the thinking that it's running out of people without immunity to spread to?

[jimmillen]

1 minute ago, st dan said:

Granted it’s only 3 counties to compare with, but an interesting graph nonetheless. Guess it goes some way to explain why our cases as so much higher than these are currently reporting. 

Weird labelling - why are UK & Italy “tests performed” v France & Japan “people tested”? 

Assume they mean the same thing but if so why not use the same terminology? 

Sorry, will rein in my inner data pedant now… 😂

[incident]

1 minute ago, jimmillen said:

Weird labelling - why are UK & Italy “tests performed” v France & Japan “people tested”? 

Assume they mean the same thing but if so why not use the same terminology? 

Sorry, will rein in my inner data pedant now… 😂

I don't know if this is the correct answer or not - but just in terms of taking the words on face value, it could be that in the UK and Italy one person could theoretically have had more than one test in a given day, whereas in France and Japan that'd be logged as a single entry?

Though that's a minor enough difference it won't impact the figures more than a percentage or two.

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