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  1. This has become unfortunately politicized with "herd immunity" on the right and "lockdown" on the left but yeah, what many of the lockdown people aren't mentioning is lockdown only works to "flatten the curve" if you keep the lockdown going indefinitely until we have a vaccine which means 8-16 months. What China did is containment, basically, which Europe and the USA have not attempted at all and I'm not sure how you get that back in the bottle in places like ours where you let it go wild already. Also, containment countries are still at risk as it hasn't worked it's way through yet. Containment until vaccine will only work with constant monitoring and/or already highly authoritarian setups. Japan however is starting to look like an interesting contradiction to what I just wrote... The reasons these conversations feel circular is because there is literally no answer. An 8-16 month lockdown, especially where I am in the USA which barely has social protections for it's residents, may have a larger death count than letting the virus do its course while we try to protect the most vulnerable to it best we can. There no studies yet on what this lockdown does to more than half the people in my country who live check to check with no guaranteed housing, food, anything. All the choices right now when presented honestly feel unimaginable.
  2. Good to know thank you. I certainly hope that changes.
  3. Agreed. We have a tipi and will roll that over whenever Glastonbury festival gives us the chance. I have a flight which is still charging change fees in my date range, but as soon as it's not I will try to change it to the same dates next year. I'm trying to keep this trip as pre-paid as possible, as I've no clue my financial situation this time next year but I'm 100% going regardless so the more pre-paid now the better!
  4. They just emailed. They will rollover ("same spot on the same terms" - their words) if I like or offer a refund minus their 2.5% payment processor fee. We are choosing to rollover. 🙂
  5. I wrote them with "we're all good to roll this over to next year if you are!" and no response so far. But I'm not too concerned as they're festival regulars.
  6. My airline (British Airways) is currently offering no change fees/cancels up until May 30th. Assuming that will be extended to include my flight dates soon enough and I'll change it to next year if I can. Tried to change my hotels on either end but looks like I may need to wait a bit longer for June 2021 dates to become available. Assuming/hoping we will hear we can roll over our tipi reservation with no issues... Everyone in my group is on board to keep this together for 2021 so I guess this is the best result of a horrible situation.
  7. My heart felt like it sank this morning, like physically I felt it, when I saw that tweet about worker deposits getting refunded. My partner and I are the midst of trying to decide whether to flee New York City, which is about to go into lockdown and we fear will be quarantined soon after. In the midst of all this, here i am checking this forum and Twitter... I know I’m certainly not the only heart-broken person here... Wishing the best for you all. And I hope to see you all at the e-fests meet next year. 🙂
  8. i wish i could pick one.... here's a TOP 5!!!
  9. This is an inflammatory thread and I wish it would be locked. You can easily ask this question on the doomsday preppers thread, I mean the coronavirus thread. But I'll give my opinion anyways. I listen to governments. If the UK government allows the festival at the end of June, then they feel it's the right thing to do and I agree and I'll be there. Listening to people on twitter for your science and health advice helps no one.
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    The poster 2020

    I'm trying to keep my comment down the middle, especially since I like the lineup. In terms of Mr. Gallagher, I'm empathetic that if your favorite band is Oasis this lineup may not be the best "Glastonbury 50th" lineup in your head, and I do think the priority of gender balance is a part of that. You make something a priority that obviously makes something else less of a priority. I don't want to insult anyone or any artist or anyone's taste in music I just think that's a very relevant part of this lineup poster.
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    The poster 2020

    This is my first time at Glastonbury and I'm just looking for 1-3 big acts to see each day and I'm more than happy with this lineup. Though I'll likely spend tons of time watching acts not even announced yet at Williams Green... In terms of the 50th and disappointment... it looks to me like the lineup had 2 priorities, gender balance and a sense of history for the 50th. I think this poster knocks it out of the park for both goals, while maybe neglecting some other goals that could lead to some disappointment. In terms of gender balance, for me Glastonbury did a much better job than Primavera did last year, where, again for me, it felt like in the quest for gender balance Primavera became a pop music festival for a year. Anyways, I feel for people that were hoping for an amazing "BEST OF GLASTONBURY" kind of poster and I get it, and I do think the aim of gender balance messed with that a bit... But I think that goal of gender balance blends nicely with a goal of "looking to the future while remembering the past" that the festival does so well...
  12. Train tickets for the festival dates from London went on sale today at gwr.com (I'm buying from my Coach location in Bath). I've been very bullish on being optimistic the festival is happening, keeping my group of fellow international travelers optimistic and pumped, mostly avoiding "that coronavirus thread" of doomsday preppers.... But the news of the gov announcement coming Monday has shaken me up for the first time. I'm not jumping to buy those non-refundable train tickets just yet. I'll wait for a statement from the festival after the government statement before committing... and hope for the best. Good luck to all of us that this all works out! 🙂
  13. A lot of the rock acts that are missing that I liked from @Brave Sir Robin’s playlist I am expecting on William’s Green. Looking at last year’s Clashfinder the Williams Green acts were great, and I don’t think many, if any, were on the First poster. Acts I’m thinking missing that will be on Williams Green are Murder Capital, Warmduscher, Black Country New Road, & Dry Cleaning.
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    2020 Must Sees

    I have a group all with very different music tastes so I think there will be a lot of compromises but in a world where i was by myself i would consider a must see... Skunk Anansie J&M Chain Charlie XCX Confidence Man Editors Lana Del Rey Pet Shop Boys Sinead O’Connor PLUS first (and likely only) time at Glastonbury so as a sorta tourist I want to see one Pyramid headliner. Probably Paul or Taylor and it will be decided by my group as I don’t really care about either I just want to experience the giant singalong thing (which is why I’m not choosing Kendrick I think the other two will have the more energetic singalongs). Would like to see - Suzanne Vega, Angel Olson, Anna Calvi, Baxter Dury, Big Moon, Big Thief, Caribou, Danny Brown, Fatboy Slim, FKA Twigs, Fontaines DC, The Specials, Thom Yorke So yeah, I’m very happy with the lineup. Not caring about the Pyramid headliners doesn't bother me. There will be some tough group choices ahead haha.
  15. I love the lineup so far but am a bit disappointed at no Cat Stevens. Do people think he’s a large enough name that him being not on the first poster means he’s not playing?
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