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  1. What if the hole is there (now both years) because one or two of them are planned surprise guests with McCartney?
  2. It's interesting to speculate how a contact and trace app and/or self-quarantine would work for international attendees. It feels to me like the automatic answer is "it wouldn't" and therefore this would be (sadly, ironically) a very fitting post-Brexit festival season where no non-UK visitors were allowed. Of course the issue is it also wouldn't work for the actual artists and their teams, many of whom are coming from other countries. So maybe not the same rules for them?
  3. Reading this thread I've thought it very unlikely that Aerosmith would keep up as an afternoon guest under some of the headliners being mentioned. This year they'd have been playing under Taylor Swift and Paul McCartney, 1 act a literal living legend and the other who sells out stadiums. Kendrick as well is very special in the USA as being a sorta of musical leader of a cultural movement and moment (even before this current moment that was true). Even as a surprise set, I don't see them having the same comfort doing this under a trio of headliners that's more, let's say, "standard." So yes I'd bet they either get bumped up to headliner or drop out. I do think my favorite trio being invented here, Eilish/McCartney/Gaga, does keep the sort of level of 2020? But if Mumford or RHCP or the 1975 or Florence are up there I don't see Aerosmith staying a daytime surprise.
  4. If that’s true and assuming there’s no vaccine and virus isn’t gone by Glastonbury 2021 do you think Glastonbury happens trying to follow these rules or it doesn’t happen for the 2nd year in a row?
  5. I agree with all of this except I do love that album. She’s certainly big enough to headline. I think she’s BBC friendly. I agree that having 1 album is a detriment, and unlike Stormzy, the other 1 album headliner, she’s not British and not representing a moment in British music/culture. I think the disadvantages listed above are counter-weighed by the uniqueness of losing 2 headliners to the corona-cancel And I believe Emily really wanting at *least* one female fronted headliner if not 2 going forward and Eilish may be the best, if not only, of the festival headline worthy choices available for next summer. (To be clear she has never stated that directly, but she’s made very strong statements about gender balance and it’s hard for me to picture her booking an all male headliner trio with such a mindset as headliners are the sort of “face” of the festival.) My personal hope is that if this is true that she bumps the 1975 to 2022 so that it’s not 1975/McCartney/Eilish. I like Glastonbury’s recent tradition of booking a “newer” act to headlining, a legendary act and a sorta mid-career act. 2 “newer” acts to headlining does feel a little disappointing, especially in light of 2020’s booked trio. I think Eilish/McCartney/Gaga would be actually really exciting. And if you keep the surprise sets of Aerosmith and Mumford that feels like a massive year. But there’s really no proof of any of this, but that above would be as good as 2020, IMO.
  6. I’m in NYC so it’s not like there’s Trump supporters not wearing masks with rifles or something, it’s just lots of different people with different priorities trying to (mostly) follow these directives as best they can (and often failing because there’s so many of us), but there’s still a tension to that. For an example of the tension I am concerned about Glastonbury having If it goes forward with impossible-to-follow concepts like masks (constant eating and drinking) and social distancing (not feasible or natural considering the pop density of a festival) - for an example of that look no further than the 8 page long thread you started called “Don’t go to the pub,” with people photographing people and shaming them, moral judgements passed on those at the pub, struggles about whether it’s ethical or not and when and how it is if so... I’m maybe a little over-sensitive to tension but that’s the kind of agitating thing I’m talking about.
  7. You are correct, I’ve never been to Glastonbury. For me, the tension is from the sort of impossibility of all of it. To take your example, if Glastonbury said “please/you must wear face masks’... how does that work if people are drinking and eating all the time? That’s what I mean by impossible. Like the request just isn’t possible realistically, and personally I feel tense when witnessing that, to me it creates tension. And, honestly, the tension in my head is seeing lots of people drinking and eating without masks and not social distancing and Knowing there are other people thinking “those people are dickheads.” Like, that’s the exact tension for me in a nutshell. And you are again correct I’ve no clue what the atmosphere of Glastonbury is like. You are correct one more time that I’m not concerned about attending or not attending in terms of the coronavirus itself. If they allow it to happen that’s good enough for me and I’ll go and if not, not.
  8. As someone that will likely only do one Glastonbury in my lifetime because of the expense (and the difficulty of organizing a group to go with me out of country my age), my biggest concern in regards to this is a Glastonbury demanding facemasks and social distancing. I live in NYC and it’s just unpleasant to be outside for me between the tension between mask wearers and non-mask wearers and the impossibility of social distancing in a city as population dense as NYC and the people who are trying (and failing) to social distance and are stressed about it and the people who don’t care or notice. To be clear I don’t really care one way or the other, I wear the mask and try to social distance because that’s what’s been asked of me, but it’s the tension that I notice and that in turn makes me tense. It just sucks right now. I really don’t want to go to a Glastonbury that has the vibe like I am describing above. My current plan is to buy plane tickets again, reserve hotels again, and keep my tickets, and assume the festival will happen business as usual. If they announce “Glastonbury with social distancing” or “Glastonbury with face masks” i certainly hope that’s before April because I’m very confused what I’ll do. I know how hard it is to get a ticket and I’m very happy me and my group have tickets but...
  9. British Airways just sent me the email that my Glastonbury flight dates count for a voucher. I just wanted to change my dates with no fees, but they were making me call for that so I just took the voucher. Like you I wanted to just roll over the flight dates to the new dates, but I also didn't want to be on hold with British Airways for an hour to do it so I will report back how the voucher works out (which they said takes up to 6 days). After I bought my (discount) ticket I paid for checked bags and seat selection and I'm concerned the voucher won't include those charges and I'll have to get on the phone regardless...
  10. The only consistent theme I find in the last decade of headliners is not a fealty to a music type but a sorta booking ideology of: Slot 1 - early career or a booking unusual for a Glastonbury headliner Slot 2 - mid-career act Slot 3 - late career act If there's a divergence in this pattern the last decade it's often in slots 2 & 3 not slot 1 (like I'd put Muse/Coldplay & Radiohead/Foo Fighters as both being kinda the same career-wise, but both years had what i'd call an early career act in addition). With this in mind if Kendrick drops out I'd expect another early career act to replace him, like the 1975 or Lizzo (barring the "is she ready?" arguments). Fleetwood Mac, if booked, would either be taking the McCartney slot or getting bumped to another year depending, as you never see 2 septuagenarian acts. I know, I'm daring to say there is a pattern! 🙂
  11. This has become unfortunately politicized with "herd immunity" on the right and "lockdown" on the left but yeah, what many of the lockdown people aren't mentioning is lockdown only works to "flatten the curve" if you keep the lockdown going indefinitely until we have a vaccine which means 8-16 months. What China did is containment, basically, which Europe and the USA have not attempted at all and I'm not sure how you get that back in the bottle in places like ours where you let it go wild already. Also, containment countries are still at risk as it hasn't worked it's way through yet. Containment until vaccine will only work with constant monitoring and/or already highly authoritarian setups. Japan however is starting to look like an interesting contradiction to what I just wrote... The reasons these conversations feel circular is because there is literally no answer. An 8-16 month lockdown, especially where I am in the USA which barely has social protections for it's residents, may have a larger death count than letting the virus do its course while we try to protect the most vulnerable to it best we can. There no studies yet on what this lockdown does to more than half the people in my country who live check to check with no guaranteed housing, food, anything. All the choices right now when presented honestly feel unimaginable.
  12. Good to know thank you. I certainly hope that changes.
  13. Agreed. We have a tipi and will roll that over whenever Glastonbury festival gives us the chance. I have a flight which is still charging change fees in my date range, but as soon as it's not I will try to change it to the same dates next year. I'm trying to keep this trip as pre-paid as possible, as I've no clue my financial situation this time next year but I'm 100% going regardless so the more pre-paid now the better!
  14. They just emailed. They will rollover ("same spot on the same terms" - their words) if I like or offer a refund minus their 2.5% payment processor fee. We are choosing to rollover. 🙂
  15. I wrote them with "we're all good to roll this over to next year if you are!" and no response so far. But I'm not too concerned as they're festival regulars.
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