When will this shit end?

[Crazyfool01]

1 minute ago, jannybruck said:

It's great to see the good job they've done with Liverpool. From one of the hardest hit areas about a month ago down to Tier 2 now.

It is ... but it’s similar restrictions to where it was previously isn’t it ? Now restrictions are tougher 

[jannybruck]

2 minutes ago, crazyfool1 said:

It is ... but it’s similar restrictions to where it was previously isn’t it ? Now restrictions are tougher 

Mostly, but they could've easily just moved it to Tier 3, so it at least shows there's some confidence that it's working there.

[Guest]

12 minutes ago, squirrelarmy said:

Would be nice to see a comparison of that map with a map showing the last election results. 

Here you go.

[stuartbert two hats]

3 minutes ago, Ozanne said:

Here you go.

Reported for distressing content.

Seriously though, it's like a punch in the stomach seeing all those Tory votes.

[SheffJeff]

Think it's more evident when you compare it to the 2017 election results.

 

[st dan]

16 minutes ago, jannybruck said:

It's great to see the good job they've done with Liverpool. From one of the hardest hit areas about a month ago down to Tier 2 now.

Yep, it has been a success there is no denying that. And Liverpool was always going to be placed in Tier 2 to show the success the mass testing scheme has been. It’s a (quite deserved) pat on the back to themselves I feel. 

[philipsteak]

1 hour ago, fatyeti24 said:

Bit pissed off tbh that we here in the green and lush scenic beauty that is Cumbria have been lumped in with the disease ridden, post industrial hellscapes to the south, such as Liverpool city region, Warrington and Cheshire.

Alas.

We've got higher case numbers unfortunately. 

Are you guys reopening? 

[Tommy101]

Remember last year when we thought an election was going to kill Christmas vibes?

[Homer]

1 hour ago, squirrelarmy said:

Big fuck you to the North. All the London based Tories will party on as before. 😤

Can confirm that I just celebrated with a can of soup (Heinz - natch).

[Leyrulion]

Think the new tier system is actually fairly fair. Good that they've shared the reasoning behind the tiers.

[Fuzzy Afro]

1 minute ago, Homer said:

Can confirm that I just celebrated with a can of soup (Heinz - natch).

What kind? I’m a big fan of lentil 

[Homer]

38 minutes ago, parsonjack said:

Boris spent all evening with his crayons on that.  To be fair he hasn't gone over the lines.

Seems ridiculous - but remember when Trump did just that with that hurricane map?

[DeanoL]

 

2 hours ago, Punksnotdead said:

I agree - and all those key workers in the private sector deserve a pay rise too.

Yeah I guess what I was trying to say is I would rather see:

1) Higher increase in minimum wage for key workers like delivery drivers and supermarket workers

2) Public sector selective pay freeze for departments where workloads have fallen or have seen staff effectively furloughed the past year

I appreciate it's not a straightforwards as "just front line workers", but equally I know someone working for a large public sector body where the entire staff were basically told "we appreciate it's hard with childcare and such, and there's no actual furlough for public sector, but take off as much time as you need and if you have too much work speak to your manager about getting it changed". Which in isolation is a wonderfully pragmatic response to the horrible situation of the past 9 months, but I don't think that friend will be arguing they should have a pay rise this year.

[Crazyfool01]

 

[shoptildrop]

Funnily Andy Burnham trending on twitter but what gets me is the amount of folk blaming Andy for the Gov being spiteful!! Yes he used his platform and everything is was asking was totally reasonable as the North West was getting shafted, yet a week later London ask the same thing and it's given immediately

So not understanding why people aren't blaming the Government for being an spiteful arseholes - that's where folk should be directing their hate not the man who was trying to make things better

and then don't get me going on North West being the only region with R number below 1 yet we are heavily penalised!! I can only hope our numbers will continue to fall at the same rate and we can get out of tier 3 on 16th Dec but I'm sure the Gov will make it as hard as possible to do that, it's pathetic!!

[Crazyfool01]

Im in agreement with some of the tories on this I think a weekly review would be far better .... up or down !!!! everything takes so bloody long to happen ... just react and stamp on the bloody virus if it needs it ... 

[shoptildrop]

Interesting we have the numbers and glad to see hospital rates starting to drop slightly too, so in 3 weeks might be much better

 

[Simsy]

29 minutes ago, DeanoL said:

2) Public sector selective pay freeze for departments where workloads have fallen or have seen staff effectively furloughed the past year

Problem with that is you get people in different departments on the same pay band. Someone working for an LA in a library might have had a decrease in workload over lockdown (if they weren't roped in to help out somewhere else), but they might be on the same pay band as someone in their social care department who's been working flat out. Either that pay band gets a rise, or it doesn't.

[efcfanwirral]

1 hour ago, stuartbert two hats said:

Reported for distressing content.

Seriously though, it's like a punch in the stomach seeing all those Tory votes.

They just need a Brexit every 4 years now...

19 minutes ago, shoptildrop said:

Funnily Andy Burnham trending on twitter but what gets me is the amount of folk blaming Andy for the Gov being spiteful!! Yes he used his platform and everything is was asking was totally reasonable as the North West was getting shafted, yet a week later London ask the same thing and it's given immediately

So not understanding why people aren't blaming the Government for being an spiteful arseholes - that's where folk should be directing their hate not the man who was trying to make things better

and then don't get me going on North West being the only region with R number below 1 yet we are heavily penalised!! I can only hope our numbers will continue to fall at the same rate and we can get out of tier 3 on 16th Dec but I'm sure the Gov will make it as hard as possible to do that, it's pathetic!!

I dont think its unfair to be in tier 3  - numbers might be dropping but they're still too high. Throwing things open when rates are too high are the reason things got so bad. Like you say 2 weeks tier 2 if it carries on dropping. 

Liverpool are in the 100s-200s so it makes sense for them

Edited November 26, 2020 by efcfanwirral

[steviewevie]

1 hour ago, stuartbert two hats said:

Reported for distressing content.

Seriously though, it's like a punch in the stomach seeing all those Tory votes.

yeah, but in places where no one lives. No one normal anyway.

[Guest]

For people that like pretty graphs. 

 

[funkychick2007]

4 hours ago, squirrelarmy said:

Get down to DFS for that extended dining table before they sell out!

You cud start designing them instead of beds!!! Might be a bigger uptake!!! 
hope ive got the right person who designs beds or this will make no sense!!! 

[zahidf]

Well, lets see if they get their finger out and get the vaccines sorted. I dont think people are going to tolerate lockdown post Easter

[steviewevie]

So, R above 1 in London which goes into Tier2, and below 1 in Manchester which goes into Tier3?

[Zoo Music Girl]

1 hour ago, Gilgamesh69 said:

I wonder how this will affect concerts in London. I've got two booked for the Jazz Cafe. Part of the seating area is in the restaurant so that should be fine, but the other part is just "drinks only" seats. 

 

I think you can still go to socially distanced events in tier 2 so would imagine this is allowed. Not with people outside your household though.

Suggested an outdoors meet-up with my family who are also in tier 2 and turns out they aren't arsed about seeing me enough to be in the cold! Ha.