When will this shit end?

[Crazyfool01]

what differences did we have between now and this time last summer ?  is it all down to this new variant or do we have fewer restrictions now ? the cases numbers are mad .....did we have the ability to test for this number of cases at that point  

[Fuzzy Afro]

Mate of mine is self-isolating and awaiting PCR results after falling ill with symptoms, some 16 months after he first contracted covid (before the first lockdown even started).

 

He’s been struggling with long covid ever since so I think a second infection would really knock him for six. 

[Guest]

3 minutes ago, crazyfool1 said:

what differences did we have between now and this time last summer ?  is it all down to this new variant or do we have fewer restrictions now ? the cases numbers are mad .....did we have the ability to test for this number of cases at that point  

Not really, testing capacity only really ramped up from November last year.

[Mr Boo]

10 minutes ago, Barry Fish said:

The reality is its small sections of the NHS that get overwhelmed by things like flu and covid - the rest of the hospital largely isn't affected directly.

This might be the case with flu, but wasn’t true for Covid (at least until now). Me and my wife wife both work in the NHS. As one ward was overwhelmed by Covid other wards had to step in to give cover. Covid affected all of the NHS - I really hope that the vaccines have changed this 🤞

[Crazyfool01]

2 minutes ago, Ozanne said:

Not really, testing capacity only really ramped up from November last year.

I remember it slowly increasing … but can’t remember it being swamped back then … the test capacity that is … 

Edited July 9, 2021 by crazyfool1

[Chapple12345]

3 minutes ago, crazyfool1 said:

what differences did we have between now and this time last summer ?  is it all down to this new variant or do we have fewer restrictions now ? the cases numbers are mad .....did we have the ability to test for this number of cases at that point  

Imagine it's lack of testing for the majority of last year and the new variant mostly, also last summer was pretty nice weather throughout whereas this year has been very mixed (even on the same day!) so maybe indoor mixing too, the vaccination rollout is doing what it's meant to with hospitalsations and deaths though so I imagine they'll be similar levels 

[Crazyfool01]

1 minute ago, Chapple12345 said:

Imagine it's lack of testing for the majority of last year and the new variant mostly, also last summer was pretty nice weather throughout whereas this year has been very mixed (even on the same day!) so maybe indoor mixing too, the vaccination rollout is doing what it's meant to with hospitalsations and deaths though so I imagine they'll be similar levels 

I guess it was also more of an issue back then because we didn’t have a vaccine so people maybe not mixing quite as much as now … I’d forgotten the weather .. and yep that must have made a difference 

[zahidf]

 

[MrBarry465]

1 minute ago, zahidf said:

 

They seem to have flip flopped a hell of a lot on 'covid passports'.

Somewhat sensible if they really want to go for this big bang and not have cases totally explode. 

[stuartbert two hats]

18 minutes ago, crazyfool1 said:

I guess it was also more of an issue back then because we didn’t have a vaccine so people maybe not mixing quite as much as now … I’d forgotten the weather .. and yep that must have made a difference 

@eFestivals any chance we can do something about users who sign up, don't post but just downvote? I appreciate you have other things on your plate at the moment.

[zahidf]

 

[Matt42]

8 minutes ago, MrBarry465 said:

They seem to have flip flopped a hell of a lot on 'covid passports'.

Somewhat sensible if they really want to go for this big bang and not have cases totally explode. 

I think they are flip flopping because no one wants to be the first country to introduce them. America looks like it’s set to introduce them… but they’ve not actually done them yet.

[Dark Star]

Gone all the way through this thing, not one ping on the app... this evening as I left the office a notification... self isolate until 23:59 on Sunday. Talk about late notice on day 8, was due to visit my mum as she's just come out of hospital but as she only had one vaccine (was hospitalised when GP would have done second shot and hospital would not provide) but it's a good thing it came through when it did. Weekend of lying on the sofa watching TV for me then. Crazy to think that, in a week or so's time, there'd be no obligation whatsoever for me to pay attention to the app (and indeed an employer would probably want me not to). 

[BobWillis2]

7 minutes ago, Dark Star said:

Gone all the way through this thing, not one ping on the app... this evening as I left the office a notification... self isolate until 23:59 on Sunday. Talk about late notice on day 8, was due to visit my mum as she's just come out of hospital but as she only had one vaccine (was hospitalised when GP would have done second shot and hospital would not provide) but it's a good thing it came through when it did. Weekend of lying on the sofa watching TV for me then. Crazy to think that, in a week or so's time, there'd be no obligation whatsoever for me to pay attention to the app (and indeed an employer would probably want me not to). 

I would take 3 LFT’s spaced out between now and when you visit your mum and if all are negative go ahead with it. 

[steviewevie]

21 minutes ago, Matt42 said:

I think they are flip flopping because no one wants to be the first country to introduce them. America looks like it’s set to introduce them… but they’ve not actually done them yet.

I thought they were doing it in Israel?

[HalfAnIdiot]

1 hour ago, Barry Fish said:

Well - he isn't far wrong...

The reality is its small sections of the NHS that get overwhelmed by things like flu and covid - the rest of the hospital largely isn't affected directly.  Of course the consequence of this one section being hit is big - but its true to say large sections of the NHS went dormant during the last two waves.

Fuck off Barry, take your stupid shit elsewhere. 

[Guest]

28 minutes ago, Dark Star said:

Gone all the way through this thing, not one ping on the app... this evening as I left the office a notification... self isolate until 23:59 on Sunday. Talk about late notice on day 8, was due to visit my mum as she's just come out of hospital but as she only had one vaccine (was hospitalised when GP would have done second shot and hospital would not provide) but it's a good thing it came through when it did. Weekend of lying on the sofa watching TV for me then. Crazy to think that, in a week or so's time, there'd be no obligation whatsoever for me to pay attention to the app (and indeed an employer would probably want me not to). 

That sucks you can't go and see your Mum but it's better to be safe than sorry I guess. Hopefully you haven't picked up the virus and can go see her soon!

[BobWillis2]

5 minutes ago, HalfAnIdiot said:

Fuck off Barry, take your stupid shit elsewhere. 

Which part of all of it do you take the most offence with? 
 

It can be both true that the NHS has worked tirelessly treating covid and that some parts of hospital care was effectively shut down at the same time. Not all staff were moved to help on covid wards so some staff did have it easier than they would have during normal times. 
 

It’s not outlandish or anti NHS to say that it happened because it did. 
 

Perhaps it didn’t need to be said but it’s not untrue is it? 

Edited July 9, 2021 by BobWillis2

[BobWillis2]

GP’s for example have behaved terribly and gone into hiding since March 2020. 

[Fuzzy Afro]

4 minutes ago, Barry Fish said:

Ah and there we go.  You are really half an idiot after all.

Only half? That’s pretty generous. 

[efcfanwirral]

1 hour ago, MrBarry465 said:

They seem to have flip flopped a hell of a lot on 'covid passports'.

Somewhat sensible if they really want to go for this big bang and not have cases totally explode. 

From autumn it says in the article. I'm guessing when schools go back

I'll have had my second dose by then but looks like a self imposed winter lockdown for me! Only if its just vaccine proof though- I'll happily use the testing option if it's there 

Edited July 9, 2021 by efcfanwirral

[HalfAnIdiot]

9 minutes ago, Barry Fish said:

Ah and there we go.  You are really half an idiot after all.

Ho ho, such incisive wit 🙄

Why are you always so keen to criticise the NHS? What is your motive I wonder.... 

[HalfAnIdiot]

7 minutes ago, Fuzzy Afro said:

Only half? That’s pretty generous. 

Yawn.. 

[HalfAnIdiot]

10 minutes ago, BobWillis2 said:

GP’s for example have behaved terribly and gone into hiding since March 2020. 

Absolutely pathetic comment. Fuck off. 

[BobWillis2]

2 minutes ago, HalfAnIdiot said:

Absolutely pathetic comment. Fuck off. 

Grow up.