2022 Headliners

[Matt42]

58 minutes ago, Deaf Nobby Burton said:

The BBC coverage is what sells tickets to future customers which keeps the festival popular and oversold, the Pyramid headliners are central to this so certainly you need an act that is going to fill the field and go down well on TV, like it or not. 

Yes. It has to pull in headliners that keep the streak of it instantly selling out.

[Boomtowner]

14 minutes ago, jannybruck said:

Just in case anyone's dropping in after work and considering catching up on the past 10 pages like I did: don't bother. You're welcome.

Thank you, this thread reminds me of teaching primary school, some incredibly childish arguments.

[Ayrshire Chris]

41 minutes ago, Andy0808 v5 said:

‘Who were the band the Beatles could have been?’

[Matt42]

Out of interest, I think 2008 was the only year that we’d consider recent that didn’t sell out.

For those who were there, was it lineup related, financial crash related? Or the rain of 2007 doomed the following year?

I’m intrigued to know what caused that to happen because I’ve seen conflicting views and probably a bit of historical revisionism. 

You can’t say the lineup was weak. They had bloody Amy Whinehouse on the pyramid. That looks nuts in retrospect.

Edited February 15, 2022 by Matt42

[balthazarstarbuck]

1 minute ago, Matt42 said:

Out of interest, I think 2008 was the only year that we’d consider recent that didn’t sell out.

For those who were there, was it lineup related, financial crash related? Or the rain of 2007 doom the following year?

I’m intrigued to know what caused that to happen because I’ve seen conflicting views and probably a bit of historical revisionism. 

You can’t say the lineup was weak. They had bloody Amy Whinehouse on the pyramid. That looks nuts in retrospect.

I can’t give any macroeconomic reasons, but from a purely subjective level, (a younger, stupider) me and my mate plumped for V Festival over Glastonbury because they had The Verve and Kings of Leon (subbing!), Muse on the other day and wasn’t massively arsed about Jay Z. But it was purely the lineup for me, and only the headliners at that.

[whitehorses]

39 minutes ago, jannybruck said:

Just in case anyone's dropping in after work and considering catching up on the past 10 pages like I did: don't bother. You're welcome.

Too late 🙈

 

[CaledonianGonzo]

25 minutes ago, Matt42 said:

You can’t say the lineup was weak. They had bloody Amy Whinehouse on the pyramid. That looks nuts in retrospect.

The Friday is potentially the weakest day in the entire history of El Pointo.

[Matt42]

3 minutes ago, CaledonianGonzo said:

The Friday is potentially the weakest day in the entire history of El Pointo.

Yeah I can see that. Pretty slim pickings. The fratellies look like they are being billed as a headliner.

[CaledonianGonzo]

As an up and coming band they should have got the bump up to headline.

[FuzzyDunlop]

40 minutes ago, Matt42 said:

Out of interest, I think 2008 was the only year that we’d consider recent that didn’t sell out.

For those who were there, was it lineup related, financial crash related? Or the rain of 2007 doomed the following year?

I’m intrigued to know what caused that to happen because I’ve seen conflicting views and probably a bit of historical revisionism. 

You can’t say the lineup was weak. They had bloody Amy Whinehouse on the pyramid. That looks nuts in retrospect.

To give the "why didn't you go?" opinion...

Some mates went in 2007 & loved it. In 2008 they were going again & I had always wanted to go, but wanted to see the line up 1st. Jay Z didnt put me off, but I wasnt into KOL or that arsed about the Verve, so didnt bother as none of the 3 appealled. I watched it on telly & was gutted to miss it. 

[the wonderwhy]

I’m 27 and I can name more Fratellis songs than Beatles songs

[Superscally]

1 hour ago, willd255 said:

Totally agree - although I would say the Stormzy booking was given a leg up. I'm not sure people thought of him on that scale beforehand. The Eavis' make headliners and this is one of the things that makes Glastonbury so special - they give UK artists huge opportunities and have traditionally been very good in using that power. There have been some missed tricks though - Foals and the 1975 should undoubtedly have been given a go.  In my opinion, Wolf Alice have also done enough to warrant a headline slot. If they don't headline on their next album, I think it'll be a real shame. Sam Fender, George Ezra and Dua Lipa should all headline in the next few years. 

George Ezra shouldn't headline his own fucking downstairs loo. 

[nikkic]

2 hours ago, jparx said:

I really, really want to see them book a new/newish act for the Friday night that, by traditional standards, wouldn’t be at a headline level. Foals a few years ago, Wolf Alice now, Sam Fender etc. Stick with your huge names the other two nights, but specifically give a huge leg up to an act on the Friday and establish that as the star making slot. Over the last few years you could have given it to Florence (before the bump up), Foals, The XX, Ezra, and Wolf Alice this year. The thing sells out in minutes anyway, and it’d be really exciting trying to guess who gets the big slot each year, forces them to pick something out of left field and adds some extra anticipation and unpredictability.

Superb idea.

 

[CaledonianGonzo]

2 minutes ago, the wonderwhy said:

I’m 27 and I can name more Fratellis songs than Beatles songs

Bang bang Chelsea's Silver Dagger came down upon his head.

[nikkic]

49 minutes ago, Matt42 said:

Out of interest, I think 2008 was the only year that we’d consider recent that didn’t sell out.

For those who were there, was it lineup related, financial crash related? Or the rain of 2007 doomed the following year?

I’m intrigued to know what caused that to happen because I’ve seen conflicting views and probably a bit of historical revisionism. 

You can’t say the lineup was weak. They had bloody Amy Whinehouse on the pyramid. That looks nuts in retrospect.

The weather was a major factor for sure. 

2007 was a real slog.

At the time European festivals were getting more traction, lots of my mates were plumping for the guaranteed sun of Beni over the flip of a coin weather at Glasto. 

We obviously stuck it out with Glasto but lots of my pals weren't interested again for a long time.

[MaxPower]

3 hours ago, Suprefan said:

How about just enjoying finding new music and not being stuck with the old tried and true stuff. Thats all a lot of people ever want. There really is a lot of gatekeeping at the festival  when it comes to the headliners. Emily has surely been trying to knock those walls down. But she hasnt been able to just put on a take it or leave it  kind of top 3 yet. If the festival is always sold out then it doesnt matter who the headliners really are due to the other choices, so why not push the limits. People will always find something to complain about anyway. Hopefully one year Emily says "fuck it" and books Bad Bunny, BTS and Sheeran. Would be incredible to see how uncomfortable people got. You can always return your ticket, but the chance you ever did is slim to none. There has to come a point when you cant keep looking back and you just move forward. 

You’re hoping one year the festival organiser says “fuck it” and books three terrible headliners?

[Crazyfool01]

1 hour ago, jannybruck said:

Just in case anyone's dropping in after work and considering catching up on the past 10 pages like I did: don't bother. You're welcome.

We’ve only hit 330 odd pages … small fry for a headliner thread … 

[Matt42]

So interesting. Because in my view the festival around 2007 / 2008 dipped to some weird low. But by 2011 it was probably one of the biggest gigs on the planet. 

I would say that Glasto booking acts like Jay-Z, Gaga, Beyoncé, The Rolling Stones etc really put the festival on the course it is at today.

[Boomtowner]

1 hour ago, Matt42 said:

Out of interest, I think 2008 was the only year that we’d consider recent that didn’t sell out.

For those who were there, was it lineup related, financial crash related? Or the rain of 2007 doomed the following year?

I’m intrigued to know what caused that to happen because I’ve seen conflicting views and probably a bit of historical revisionism. 

You can’t say the lineup was weak. They had bloody Amy Whinehouse on the pyramid. That looks nuts in retrospect.

I think it was a mixture of all the reasons you mentioned. The unrelenting rain of 2007 put off some of my mates, as did Jay Z headlining. It was definitely the muddiest I've attended, even worse than 2016. I believe the festival was still a sell out but you could definitely get tickets a few days before it started.

By the way, the Amy Winehouse performance was one of the worst I've ever seen on the Pyramid, and I like her music

Edited February 15, 2022 by Boomtowner

[Crazyfool01]

1 hour ago, Matt42 said:

Out of interest, I think 2008 was the only year that we’d consider recent that didn’t sell out.

For those who were there, was it lineup related, financial crash related? Or the rain of 2007 doomed the following year?

I’m intrigued to know what caused that to happen because I’ve seen conflicting views and probably a bit of historical revisionism. 

You can’t say the lineup was weak. They had bloody Amy Whinehouse on the pyramid. That looks nuts in retrospect.

this sums it up I think 

[mattiloy]

3 hours ago, Suprefan said:

How about just enjoying finding new music and not being stuck with the old tried and true stuff. Thats all a lot of people ever want. There really is a lot of gatekeeping at the festival  when it comes to the headliners. Emily has surely been trying to knock those walls down. But she hasnt been able to just put on a take it or leave it  kind of top 3 yet. If the festival is always sold out then it doesnt matter who the headliners really are due to the other choices, so why not push the limits. People will always find something to complain about anyway. Hopefully one year Emily says "fuck it" and books Bad Bunny, BTS and Sheeran. Would be incredible to see how uncomfortable people got. You can always return your ticket, but the chance you ever did is slim to none. There has to come a point when you cant keep looking back and you just move forward. 

Honest question, why do you go to glastonbury? Other festivals might be better suited to you.

Less honest question: Do you also write angry letters to your local fish and chip shop demanding they uppdate their menu?

Fish and chips still sells. Avocado and toast might sell too these days. But fish and chips still sells. And long may it. Keep on rocking in the fried world baby

[Deaf Nobby Burton]

How much, if any, do people think social media coming along and a kind of FOMO attitude rearing it’s head had to do with things suddenly going mental 2011-ish onwards? By that I mean things just seem to get so much more hyped with things like instagram than they used to. People almost seem to ‘need’ to be somewhere because it’s popular and it kind of snowballs. I appreciate there are many other factors and I don’t think I’ve explained myself that well, but hopefully you get what I mean.

[incident]

1 hour ago, Matt42 said:

For those who were there, was it lineup related, financial crash related? Or the rain of 2007 doomed the following year?

A bit of all of those, with probably less emphasis on the financial crash as that didn't really start to hit pockets until later in the year.

[Matt42]

13 minutes ago, Deaf Nobby Burton said:

How much, if any, do people think social media coming along and a kind of FOMO attitude rearing it’s head had to do with things suddenly going mental 2011-ish onwards? By that I mean things just seem to get so much more hyped with things like instagram than they used to. People almost seem to ‘need’ to be somewhere because it’s popular and it kind of snowballs. I appreciate there are many other factors and I don’t think I’ve explained myself that well, but hopefully you get what I mean.

I mean from 2008 onwards I argue that the headliners they booked went up a notch. If you look at the big bookings over the past few years they’ve really made way through the list of acts who have never done it.

Beyonce, Bruce Springsteen, Lady Gaga,   U2, Stevie Wonder, The Rolling Stones, Dolly Parton, Kanye West, Adele, Katy Perry, Ed Sheeran, Barry Gib, Kylie Minogue and booking acts like Taylor Swift and Kendrick. Some of these acts are among the list of the most well known artists of all time. People buy their Glasto ticket now anticipating big names on the bill. 

Edited February 15, 2022 by Matt42

[Somto Unigwe Raphael]

1 hour ago, the wonderwhy said:

I’m 27 and I can name more Fratellis songs than Beatles songs

Macca’s set would be a damn site better if he covered Henrietta tbh.