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When will this shit end?


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Just now, Copperface said:

If it's being repeatedly breached, yes. But the premises have to put the measures and controls in place first.

yep 🙂 .... so things like signs to show its a requirement would be a reasonable step .... I do wonder the % of the population who would be exempt at times 🙂 I guess there would be no way of knowing 

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Just now, zahidf said:

 

But I thought everyone was following lockdown indefinitely...

I did drive on Wednesday morning as I decided to move back to my parents for this lockdown. I know I was technically contributing to the problem (although legally I fell into the “moving house category as I intend to stay here now) but the roads were packed. I even got stuck in traffic coming back into my home town, which surprised me.

 

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9 minutes ago, FestivalJamie said:

Well every time I’ve asked a shop Assistent why masks aren’t being enforced they say “its not their job to enforce it”.

I might be wrong about a lot of things but I’m sure I’m right about this: masks are legally enforceable by the police and it is not the shop keeper or assistants job to enforce this. Can someone else weigh in on this?

From https://www.gov.uk/government/news/face-coverings-mandatory-in-shops-supermarkets-shopping-centres-and-enclosed-transport-hubs-from-friday

"Businesses are encouraged to take reasonable steps to encourage customers to follow the law, including through signs and providing other information in store."

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Just now, crazyfool1 said:

yep 🙂 .... so things like signs to show its a requirement would be a reasonable step .... I do wonder the % of the population who would be exempt at times 🙂 I guess there would be no way of knowing 

I just keep away from the non wearers. But the exemption guidance is too woolly, as you get a PA announcement requesting mask wearing but also pleading to recognise those who cannot wear a covering for whatever reason. 

The ones that get me are for example, a couple shopping, one wearing a mask and the other not, no outward signs of any impairment whatsoever. Not saying there isn't a valid exemption, but why the hell are they shopping as a couple, for the protection of both of them and everyone else?

If it's someone on their own, I can live with it. 

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1 hour ago, xxialac said:

I don't mean to be pedantic but that wouldn't be banning exercise.

Joe Wicks did a live exercise workout to 1million people who spent no money, needed no kit and required no more than a couple of metres of space.

Where there's a will, there's a way...

I'd rather catch covid than have to do an online exercise class with Joe Wicks!

I can't be the only one who finds him  to be an irritating little prick?

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3 minutes ago, zahidf said:

 

But I thought everyone was following lockdown indefinitely...

And there we have it, the government has lots control.

We simply can't afford to have a half-baked Lockdown now. Khan is right that we have to go further.

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8 minutes ago, RobertProsineckisLighter said:

"During the summer the beauty spot hit the headlines when dozens of people armed with picnic descended on the reservoir, parking cars dangerously on roads in the area as the car park was so full.

It led to police issuing tickets to motorists and Severn Trent pleading with visitors to turn around and go home if they saw the car park was full."

https://www.staffordshire-live.co.uk/news/local-news/police-checks-derbyshire-beauty-spot-4863415

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3 minutes ago, Punksnotdead said:

I'd rather catch covid than have to do an online exercise class with Joe Wicks!

I can't be the only one who finds him  to be an irritating little prick?

to quote myself: Joe Wicks can piss off. 

 

i genuinely he thought he was a spoof character the first time i saw him on tv, the big hairy handsome thick bloke pretending to be a fitness guru - but no, that really is his thing! 

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26 minutes ago, FestivalJamie said:

If driving for exercise isn’t allowed, then the government need to state as a legal requirement “exercise must start and finish from your household” and not facilitate meeting of a friend in public. It’s not fair to criticise their or anyone else’s actions when it’s not actually illegal and also I would say what they did is not irresponsible given the lockdown rules either. I actually think them going for a socially distant walk in a secluded area is more sensible than in a crowded city street.

They interviewed a virologist on my local news about measures and this topic came up, he suggested being reasonable about it e.g. not travelling 100 miles for it - I interpret it as travelling no more than 20/30 minutes from your home as I think that is a reasonable distance, especially when being allowed to visit 1 other friend

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4 minutes ago, Copperface said:

"During the summer the beauty spot hit the headlines when dozens of people armed with picnic descended on the reservoir, parking cars dangerously on roads in the area as the car park was so full.

It led to police issuing tickets to motorists and Severn Trent pleading with visitors to turn around and go home if they saw the car park was full."

https://www.staffordshire-live.co.uk/news/local-news/police-checks-derbyshire-beauty-spot-4863415

Yep many of the national park authorities have pleaded with people to stay away as they have a responsibility to their residents aswell as tourists. 

A friend of mine has been itching to get out on his bike in the peak District but has taken the view it's taking the piss to do it. Arguably not illegal but not really in the spirit of the current restrictions. 

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13 minutes ago, Punksnotdead said:

I'd rather catch covid than have to do an online exercise class with Joe Wicks!

I can't be the only one who finds him  to be an irritating little prick?

Such an annoying and grating voice I find, glad it isnt just me 

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3 minutes ago, balti-pie said:

to quote myself: Joe Wicks can piss off. 

 

i genuinely he thought he was a spoof character the first time i saw him on tv, the big hairy handsome thick bloke pretending to be a fitness guru - but no, that really is his thing! 

Spot on. Stupid 80's hair. Whiny TOWIE accent. The fact that he makes out he's a great public servant, when he's actually a multi millionaire!

If it wasn't for all the shit politicians, he would have won my '2020 twat of the year' award!

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11 minutes ago, steviewevie said:

I know we're not really allowed to say it (and soon it'll be illegal) but it IS an experimental technology never before used on a mass scale in people. If they can afford to do it then good on them - we only have to rush it because of our reliance on shocking inequality to keep the country moving and unstable economy 

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19 minutes ago, zahidf said:

 

But I thought everyone was following lockdown indefinitely...

Feel a bit uncomfortable with the subtext of this tweet being "people are ignoring lockdown" and the blame being shifted to the public. I live here in London and barely anything's open, there's nothing to do apart from go walking. These increased public transportation rides are almost certainly majority down to offices staying open and people being forced to/needing to work. I know so many people that WFH first time around that have been put back in offices.

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Just now, FestivalJamie said:

Well every time I’ve asked a shop Assistent why masks aren’t being enforced they say “its not their job to enforce it”.

I might be wrong about a lot of things but I’m sure I’m right about this: masks are legally enforceable by the police and it is not the shop keeper or assistants job to enforce this. Can someone else weigh in on this?

 

Just now, crazyfool1 said:

its a bit of everything isn't it ? The job of the shop to be covid secure .... but the job of the police to carry out enforcement within those premises ? 

Both are correct, the are a legal requirement and shops etc should be enforcing the rule (similar to how they enforce no alcohol to under 18's) plus they have the right to refuse service/entry.

If the police are made aware of the incidents, they should be following them up as someone is breaking the law.

The problem is there is exemptions to the mask requirements (there isnt for alchohol) so it's pretty impossible to manage correctly due to this, it's down to both the outlet and the police.

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