When will this shit end?

[Homer]

Stop - Starmer time!

[Avalon_Fields]

1 minute ago, Fuzzy Afro said:

French vaccine programme descending into a farce with only a few hundred vaccinated so far 

Well, that's because Marcon insisted a big proportion of the vaccination efforts should be put into the Sanofi (French) vaccine plan...which has failed abysmally. That bad, politically motivated decision will probably cause many thousands of unnecessary deaths in France and the EU.

[Tranquility of Solitude]

11 minutes ago, steviewevie said:

but, doesn't necessarily stop people working for NHS catching it and passing it on? We'll just stop them getting badly ill from it...that's all we know at moment, right?

It will, however, make  frontline NHS workers, and care home staff, feel safer as they work. That’s a yes from me.

[Crazyfool01]

5 minutes ago, stuie said:

Ooopsy 

I wish Boris had been so honest 

[Guest]

6 minutes ago, Ayrshire Chris said:

Train ticket for the next month 

Watch out you’ll get a downvote from someone for posting a joke. 

[squirrelarmy]

Impromptu virtual meet for the announcement. We’ll be playing a Boris Bullshit Bingo drinking game. 

[fraybentos1]

3 minutes ago, Fuzzy Afro said:

I'm optimistic when it comes to the vaccine rollout but this is stretching it a bit. 13.5 million in under 6 weeks when the oxford one is just beginning today sounds very very ambitious. I do hope for somewhere near the 2 mil a week mark but it will clearly take a wee while to build up to that level imo.

[Crazyfool01]

10 minutes ago, Ayrshire Chris said:

Train ticket for the next month 

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/uk-england-sussex-52487203

[parsonjack]

1 hour ago, topmarksbri said:

Well, maybe hyperbole - we hit high 900s on 30th/31st Dec. 

Deaths by reported date, yes.  Deaths by date of death are much lower....admittedly only up to 30th Dec but we haven't been higher than 551 (on 26th Dec) since 1st May.  That may climb as further deaths are retrospectively added but the media's claims of c.1000/day are somewhat wide of the mark. 

500+ remains hideous whatever. 

[steviewevie]

6 minutes ago, zahidf said:

Yeah. Big anti vax movement there 

it's not just that though is it, they must be screwing things up...hopefully they can sort it out.

[efcfanwirral]

 

23 minutes ago, steviewevie said:

but, doesn't necessarily stop people working for NHS catching it and passing it on? We'll just stop them getting badly ill from it...that's all we know at moment, right?

 

19 minutes ago, steviewevie said:

yes, but if an NHS worker gets the vaccine they can still catch it, and then would still need self isolate, wouldn't they? It doesn't actually help the NHS from being overwhelmed...?

Yep they'll have to self isolate and  I assume thats the case with all of us for very long time. The vaccine will save lives but won't save the nhs  

Not to worry I'm sure they have an alternative ready to go...

Edited January 4, 2021 by efcfanwirral

[Mr.Tease]

6 minutes ago, Fuzzy Afro said:

Ah, the old Boris Johnson fallback- when in a pickle, make up some sort of grand lie/unrealistic target to distract. Can't believe anyone stills buys his BS

[charlierc]

50 minutes ago, The Dawg said:

I'm convinced that everything is a feckin shambles at the moment. Sod it, i'm off to the pub!

Best bet might be try and build a pub in your garage/shed/spare room/living room (delete as appropriate). Least then you get to choose last call.

[RobertProsineckisLighter]

8 minutes ago, Avalon_Fields said:

The tiered system was devised by the Dept Health's JCVI team (not the government)... it's a very valid point, you couldn't also make a strong case for teachers too.

There are quite a decent proportion of NHS staff that are already getting the vaccine, 3 of our Glastonbury group out of 5 nurses have had it. I know that's a small sample but every medical worker at the vaccination centre I've been working in has had the jab (Say around 30 people) and that's just one location.

I know of several NHS staff who have had the jab - non clinical. An A&E Dr in a T4 area yet to have the jab, maybe this week. 

I think we're potentially at the stage where we have to accept all jabs and therefore lives aren't equal. A front line NHS worker getting the jab enables them to keep working (if you change some of the isolation rules) and that saves lives. 

I appreciate that it's an unpleasant situation and ideally we wouldnt be in this position but we are. 

[charlierc]

13 minutes ago, Chapple12345 said:

I'll still be pretending to be in my 20's and trying to pick up where I left off even though I'll be like 45.

9 minutes ago, Fuzzy Afro said:

So they might get it done by the end of April judging by usual pace and habit of things slipping.

[Homer]

32 minutes ago, Tranquility of Solitude said:

I took a conscious decision to forget the dry January thing, about 45 minutes ago. Starting to feel better about things already.

Suggest you might do the same?

Enjoy - I might push the boat out and have a Fruit Corner!

[steviewevie]

There's a vaccination centre going to be set up not far from where I live, and they're looking for volunteers to help out. I may sign up and then I can feel good about myself.

[fatyeti24]

12 minutes ago, Fuzzy Afro said:

I mean, what's one more little lie? What harm could it do?

[Homer]

15 minutes ago, zahidf said:

Yeah. Big anti vax movement there 

You'd think Louis Pasteur would get particularly big props in France!

[dingbat2]

Now putting on the hour long "Would I lie to you" special on Dave. You have to turn to BBC1 for the second half of the programme at 8pm though

 

 

[Ayrshire Chris]

12 minutes ago, Ozanne said:

Watch out you’ll get a downvote from someone for posting a joke. 

Let’s face it, humour is one of the things that will help us through this shit storm! 

[fatyeti24]

7 minutes ago, charlierc said:

Best bet might be try and build a pub in your garage/shed/spare room/living room (delete as appropriate). Least then you get to choose last call.

I've got a pub. Well more of a bar really. Alas, I haven't yet had the chance to restock it after New Year. 

[hodgey123]

I feel worse about the state of the pandemic now than at any time in the past. I am incredibly fortunate to be able to work from home and have done so entirely throughout, but I am feeling a huge sense of pointlessness at the moment turning on the laptop after the Christmas break about work and everything in general. It just feels so bleak and that there is literally nothing to look forward to. I am existing solely to log on and work, eat, sleep, repeat. 

I end up feeling guilty for constantly being miserable about things given I could have been much more affected by the pandemic but can't help it. It is either that or complete and utter anger regarding how this government has behaved throughout this whole thing, particularly most recently. They have not got a single thing right in the last 2/3 months. 

[RobertProsineckisLighter]

12 minutes ago, Tranquility of Solitude said:

It will, however, make  frontline NHS workers, and care home staff, feel safer as they work. That’s a yes from me.

If your treating people with Covid you can't give them Covid - you could change the rules they only have to isolate if they test positive (test them regularly) give them priority turnaround too. 

There will come a point where self isolation ends, we stop worrying about case numbers because hospitalisation and death rates get lower.

If the NHS is that close to breaking there are things which could be changed to ensure it doesn't and the many additional deaths this would cause because we can't staff the hospitals and the capacity they have, maybe we could actually staff the Nightingale hospitals too. 

I don't now the answers just throwing some thoughts around. 

[xxialac]

0n 29 December a staggering 80,664 people tested positive for COVID-19 (that is the date of test, not date of result). The rate of positive tests doubled in three days.

(Peston)