Jump to content

Don't Miss a Beat

Join the UK's most passionate festival community. Keep up with the latest conversations, line-up rumours, and music news.

250,000+ Members

Connect with a massive network of fellow festival-goers.

Lively Discussions

Thousands of active topics on music, campsites, and tips.

Hot Rumours & News

Hear about secret sets and lineup drops before anyone else.

Create Free Account
OR
  • Sign Up!

    Join our friendly community of music lovers and be part of the fun 😎

When will this shit end?


Chrisp1986

Recommended Posts

1 minute ago, Fuzzy Afro said:

French vaccine programme descending into a farce with only a few hundred vaccinated so far 

Well, that's because Marcon insisted a big proportion of the vaccination efforts should be put into the Sanofi (French) vaccine plan...which has failed abysmally. That bad, politically motivated decision will probably cause many thousands of unnecessary deaths in France and the EU.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

11 minutes ago, steviewevie said:

but, doesn't necessarily stop people working for NHS catching it and passing it on? We'll just stop them getting badly ill from it...that's all we know at moment, right?

It will, however, make  frontline NHS workers, and care home staff, feel safer as they work. That’s a yes from me.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

6 minutes ago, Ayrshire Chris said:

7C52F8AD-9AFC-4897-A9CE-F996D706BB23.jpeg.e8df3bcf9fb7e1a73d78336d7d01eb56.jpeg

Train ticket for the next month 

Watch out you’ll get a downvote from someone for posting a joke. 

Link to comment
Share on other sites

3 minutes ago, Fuzzy Afro said:

D5CD6276-D03B-4A0B-8694-BF2B2D005647.png

I'm optimistic when it comes to the vaccine rollout but this is stretching it a bit. 13.5 million in under 6 weeks when the oxford one is just beginning today sounds very very ambitious. I do hope for somewhere near the 2 mil a week mark but it will clearly take a wee while to build up to that level imo.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

1 hour ago, topmarksbri said:

Well, maybe hyperbole - we hit high 900s on 30th/31st Dec. 

Deaths by reported date, yes.  Deaths by date of death are much lower....admittedly only up to 30th Dec but we haven't been higher than 551 (on 26th Dec) since 1st May.  That may climb as further deaths are retrospectively added but the media's claims of c.1000/day are somewhat wide of the mark. 

500+ remains hideous whatever. 

Link to comment
Share on other sites

 

23 minutes ago, steviewevie said:

but, doesn't necessarily stop people working for NHS catching it and passing it on? We'll just stop them getting badly ill from it...that's all we know at moment, right?

 

19 minutes ago, steviewevie said:

yes, but if an NHS worker gets the vaccine they can still catch it, and then would still need self isolate, wouldn't they? It doesn't actually help the NHS from being overwhelmed...?

Yep they'll have to self isolate and  I assume thats the case with all of us for very long time. The vaccine will save lives but won't save the nhs  

Not to worry I'm sure they have an alternative ready to go...

Edited by efcfanwirral
Link to comment
Share on other sites

6 minutes ago, Fuzzy Afro said:

D5CD6276-D03B-4A0B-8694-BF2B2D005647.png

Ah, the old Boris Johnson fallback- when in a pickle, make up some sort of grand lie/unrealistic target to distract. Can't believe anyone stills buys his BS

Link to comment
Share on other sites

50 minutes ago, The Dawg said:

I'm convinced that everything is a feckin shambles at the moment. Sod it, i'm off to the pub!

Best bet might be try and build a pub in your garage/shed/spare room/living room (delete as appropriate). Least then you get to choose last call.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

8 minutes ago, Avalon_Fields said:

The tiered system was devised by the Dept Health's JCVI team (not the government)... it's a very valid point, you couldn't also make a strong case for teachers too.

There are quite a decent proportion of NHS staff that are already getting the vaccine, 3 of our Glastonbury group out of 5 nurses have had it. I know that's a small sample but every medical worker at the vaccination centre I've been working in has had the jab (Say around 30 people) and that's just one location.

I know of several NHS staff who have had the jab - non clinical. An A&E Dr in a T4 area yet to have the jab, maybe this week. 

I think we're potentially at the stage where we have to accept all jabs and therefore lives aren't equal. A front line NHS worker getting the jab enables them to keep working (if you change some of the isolation rules) and that saves lives. 

I appreciate that it's an unpleasant situation and ideally we wouldnt be in this position but we are. 

Link to comment
Share on other sites

13 minutes ago, Chapple12345 said:

20210104_192047.jpg

I'll still be pretending to be in my 20's and trying to pick up where I left off even though I'll be like 45.

9 minutes ago, Fuzzy Afro said:

D5CD6276-D03B-4A0B-8694-BF2B2D005647.png

So they might get it done by the end of April judging by usual pace and habit of things slipping.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

32 minutes ago, Tranquility of Solitude said:

I took a conscious decision to forget the dry January thing, about 45 minutes ago. Starting to feel better about things already.

Suggest you might do the same?

Enjoy - I might push the boat out and have a Fruit Corner!

Link to comment
Share on other sites

7 minutes ago, charlierc said:

Best bet might be try and build a pub in your garage/shed/spare room/living room (delete as appropriate). Least then you get to choose last call.

I've got a pub. Well more of a bar really. Alas, I haven't yet had the chance to restock it after New Year. 

Link to comment
Share on other sites

I feel worse about the state of the pandemic now than at any time in the past. I am incredibly fortunate to be able to work from home and have done so entirely throughout, but I am feeling a huge sense of pointlessness at the moment turning on the laptop after the Christmas break about work and everything in general. It just feels so bleak and that there is literally nothing to look forward to. I am existing solely to log on and work, eat, sleep, repeat. 

I end up feeling guilty for constantly being miserable about things given I could have been much more affected by the pandemic but can't help it. It is either that or complete and utter anger regarding how this government has behaved throughout this whole thing, particularly most recently. They have not got a single thing right in the last 2/3 months. 

Link to comment
Share on other sites

12 minutes ago, Tranquility of Solitude said:

It will, however, make  frontline NHS workers, and care home staff, feel safer as they work. That’s a yes from me.

If your treating people with Covid you can't give them Covid - you could change the rules they only have to isolate if they test positive (test them regularly) give them priority turnaround too. 

There will come a point where self isolation ends, we stop worrying about case numbers because hospitalisation and death rates get lower.

If the NHS is that close to breaking there are things which could be changed to ensure it doesn't and the many additional deaths this would cause because we can't staff the hospitals and the capacity they have, maybe we could actually staff the Nightingale hospitals too. 

I don't now the answers just throwing some thoughts around. 

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Guest
This topic is now closed to further replies.
  • Recently Browsing   0 members

    • No registered users viewing this page.

  • Latest Activity

    • Is anything said we need to be aware of?
    • Just listened to the new Madonna album, it would be a catastrophe if that isn't played on the pyramid!
    • Restore getting more than Lib Dems is not good.
    • https://x.com/amirtibon/status/2083054470871535853   Some thoughts on the Gaza agreement announced overnight, which despite my reservations and concerns, I hope will be implemented. 1. Donald Trump is trying to collect "wins" and "achievements" ahead of the midterm elections. His party is entering that election at a disadvantage, but because Democrats may choose weak and unpopular candidates in specific states, much like Republicans did in 2022, there's a reason for Trump to at least try achieving a surprising result like the one Biden secured four years ago.   2. The will to provide Trump such a "win" was an important motivation for all sides involved in this agreement: Hamas, Netanyahu, Qatar, Egypt, UAE and Turkey. All of them hope, each for their own reasons, that the transactional president will remember their role in the agreement and the positive media coverage it has generated and will continue to generate. You can like it or not, but that's the nature of diplomacy, especially in the Middle East, under Trump.   3. Netanyahu and his band of liars in the Israeli media (and the last few suckers in the American media still buying his spin) are already trying to oversell the agreement and present it in terms that contradict the Board of Peace statements and briefings. Of course, the October 7 Prime Minister can't just say the truth on this one, which goes something like: "I'm trying to stay on good terms with Trump ahead of an election here in Israel that will determine my personal fate and whether or not I go to jail in 2027."   4. For Hamas, the agreement is a way to buy time and survive, which is basically the organization's overarching goal since October 7. They lost most of their leadership and thousands of their fighters; they will also, I believe, give up some of their weapons to the new Gaza-based Palestinian government, which is a good thing. But at the bottom of all their decisions is a simple calculation: being able to say, "we committed the most deadly and humiliating attack against Israel since the start of the conflict, and survived as a movement and an organization to tell about it."   5. Hamas was able to say that yesterday, before the agreement was signed, and it can also say that today, after the conclusion of the negotiations. So in that regard, the agreement is preferable to the murky post-war reality that preceded it, in which Hamas was recruiting again thousands of young fighters, holding on to all its weapons, and controlling 99% of Gaza's population, making money off people buying fuel and cigarettes. Changing even a part of that terrible reality, by collecting some of the weapons and allowing progress on reconstruction under a non-Hamas government, is better. It means coming to terms with the fact that Israel under this government failed to dismantle Hamas and allowed its survival even before this agreement was signed.   6. Do I think the agreement will be fully implemented over the next 300 days, as I understand the timeline? I'm highly skeptical. But I'm also asking: what are the alternatives? Netanyahu, in his quest for political survival at all costs, ignored David Ben-Gurion's national security strategy of seeking short and decisive wars, which was based on Israel's unique internal and external challenges that make it dangerous for this country to have long wars of attrition. The result is an Israel that is hated, isolated and denounced around the world like never before, and is totally reliant on the support of one man (TRUMP) to avoid crushing international sanctions. Going to war in Gaza once again based on the same promise of "finishing Hamas," which this government failed to achieve after three long years, would have been suicidal unless Trump promised his full backing. And Trump, for good reasons, can't give such a commitment after his bitter experience with Netanyahu in Iran and Lebanon.   7. For me and my family, these are all very personal, not only political, questions. My six-year-old daughter will start school on the Gaza border in exactly one month, as we rebuild our life in the same home where Hamas tried to murder us on October 7. We've learned over the years to be highly skeptical of premature victory announcements and diplomatic celebrations. When these things collapse under the cynical realities of the conflict, most of those announcing them are not around to face the consequences. Still, I don't see a better alternative to the 20-Point Plan that Trump presented last year, at least not with Israel's current position of isolation and exhaustion under this government. So I have some hope that the agreement will succeed, even partially, and deliver a period of quiet. For us on the border, that would be significant after three years of war and trauma. And maybe in the long run, with different Israeli and Palestinian leadership, this will become a first step in a broader positive change for the region.
    • Until they're through the first round of votes there's no point believing any reports about who'll win.
  • Featured Products

  • Hot Topics

  • Latest Tourdates

×
×
  • Create New...