2020 headliners

[CaledonianGonzo]

Delighted by Dua's disco dancefloor destroyers.

[Chrisp1986]

Do we still have Dua as Kung Fu sub?

[Matt42]

20 minutes ago, dentalplan said:

Sometimes people just aren't interested in certain acts or genres and it's not related to politics, age, race or gender.

I meant that in the sense that explaining how Kendrick is a great hip hop headliner, Macca is a great rock/pop headliner, and Taylor is a great pop headliner, means nothing to people who just want rock.

Edited February 1, 2020 by Matt42

[CaledonianGonzo]

30 minutes ago, dentalplan said:

Sometimes people just aren't interested in certain acts or genres and it's not related to politics, age, race or gender.

True on a personal / individual level, but it is worth acknowledging that this takes place in a wider context where certain acts and genres do often generate disproportionate criticism.

Be interesting to see what happens with Kenny. Despite his high critical profile I can see it being a bit divisive. And some of the naysaying probably will be worthy of scrutiny.

[henry bear]

34 minutes ago, Chrisp1986 said:

Do we still have Dua as Kung Fu sub?

Hope you don’t think there’s an overwhelming consensus on such matters 

[Matt42]

34 minutes ago, Chrisp1986 said:

Do we still have Dua as Kung Fu sub?

I really hope so. I kinda wanna see a Dua show with some cool lighting effects. 

She is clearly big enough for it and it will probably get one of the biggest crowds of the weekend. 

[Matt42]

12 minutes ago, CaledonianGonzo said:

True on a personal / individual level, but it is worth acknowledging that this takes place in a wider context where certain acts and genres do often generate disproportionate criticism.

Be interesting to see what happens with Kenny. Despite his high critical profile I can see it being a bit divisive. And some of the naysaying probably will be worthy of scrutiny.

Honestly that’s wasn’t what I intended with the original post but I guess this argument is valid too.

My point was that it’s useless to try and sell a varied trio to people who just want rock bands headlining. The best thing to do is just book diverse trios and ignore the criticism. They won’t be satisfied with any attempt to sell them something different than what they want.

[dentalplan]

15 minutes ago, Matt42 said:

I meant that in the sense that explaining how Kendrick is a great hip hop headliner, Macca is a great rock/pop headliner, and Taylor is a great pop headliner, means nothing to people who just want rock.

But nobody said they "just want rock". And you just brought up Brexit and politics out of nowhere in two successive posts during a conversation about headliners.

This should obviously never be an apolitical forum but trying to pin the opinions of people on festival headliners onto a popular 'good vs. bad'/'right vs. wrong'/'us vs. them' theme is ridiculous and tiresome, even in a fairly partisan place like this.

3 minutes ago, CaledonianGonzo said:

True on a personal / individual level, but it is worth acknowledging that this takes place in a wider context where certain acts and genres do often generate disproportionate criticism.

Be interesting to see what happens with Kenny. Despite his high critical profile I can see it being a bit divisive. And some of the naysaying probably will be worthy of scrutiny.

Some, yeah. But pretending these acts are infallible and any criticism is worth scrutinising is dumb. His biggest televised UK thing must be the BRIT Awards where he shat the bed big-time.

All racists won't like black rappers, yes. Doesn't mean not liking rap music is racist though. Same with misogyny and female pop acts.

With regard to what happens with Kendrick, was there widespread scrutiny about Stormzy after his performance? I thought people just said "yes he nailed it" and carried on. It wasn't until later in the year when he was misquoted as saying Britain was "100% racist" that he really set people off.

[FuzzyDunlop]

Kendrick hasn't permeated culture in this country outside of hip hop fans really. Not like Kanye / Jay Z & Stormzy did before they headlined.

When I have spoken to people about him headlining, there is a definite sense of "who?". That's from a pretty wide age range, at work & my glastonbury going friends. (One of them has now started listening to him & is up for watching him)

It can only be a good thing that newer / different style acts are headlining... well for most people. You'll always have some unhappy folk.

 

[Stokesy10]

Regardless of the debate about where she'd be placed... are we quite confident Dua Lipa will be at GF playing somewhere? 

Also, no chance of Lorde anywhere? 

[dentalplan]

2 minutes ago, Stokesy10 said:

Regardless of the debate about where she'd be placed... are we quite confident Dua Lipa will be at GF playing somewhere? 

Also, no chance of Lorde anywhere? 

Yeah. She's rumoured in the papers, she's touring at the time and she's one of the UK's biggest pop stars who hasn't played in a couple of years.

Also, no chance of Lorde anywhere.

[Matt42]

3 minutes ago, Stokesy10 said:

 

Also, no chance of Lorde anywhere? 

She popped up a few months ago to say that something personal within her family has halted her production of her new album. I think she’s sitting 2020 out to either take some time off or focus on the album.

Really excited and hopeful that she will be around in 2021.

[circus92]

5 minutes ago, Stokesy10 said:

Regardless of the debate about where she'd be placed... are we quite confident Dua Lipa will be at GF playing somewhere? 

Also, no chance of Lorde anywhere? 

Reckon she is nailed on to be there.  Where do we think - subbing the Pyramid or headlining the other?
 

Her new one is a completer banger - will sound great live.  Sounding good for her new album so far

[Festival Liam]

Wouldn't surprise me if Dua was as low as 3rd down on Pyramid. Didn't Ed Sheeran play that slot on his second album? Then onto headliner (like she will be on album 3). Would be nice to see her in the dark but doubt she's going to insist on a sub slot. 

I know I already posted it but can't get over how good 'Physical' is. 

[circus92]

Probably won’t happen but Dua into Taylor would be a Poptastic way to end the weekend 🤞

[CaledonianGonzo]

13 minutes ago, dentalplan said:

With regard to what happens with Kendrick, was there widespread scrutiny about Stormzy after his performance? I thought people just said "yes he nailed it" and carried on. It wasn't until later in the year when he was misquoted as saying Britain was "100% racist" that he really set people off.

Yeah - it was Stormzy I was thinking of - and I think there was minor furore about his Fuck Boris wheel up.  Of course it's perfectly fine to dislike Vossi Bop, but my natural instinct is solidarity with people who've had the Eye of Sauron pointed at them by the right wing outrage machine - and not just to pipe up to say I prefer Wylie.

Probably two of the most controversial bookings in Glasto history are Jay and Ye. If something similar flares up around Kendrick then it won't just be a coincidence. 

[RarerThanDandyB]

Why is Thom Yorke on the rumours page twice @eFestivals? Have you heard he may be doing two sets?

[bombfrog]

7 hours ago, CaledonianGonzo said:

Probably cos most of them have done more detective work than you. Elton John and Bieber have dates that clash and the others aren't on the road / in the vicinity.

So when I asked why people were so sure it was him and the only reply I got was "because Emily said they were male and hadn't been before" I was kind of justified in basing my responses on this limited information.

If people have done lots of other detective work and we do have harder evidence that it's him then that's kind of what I was asking for. 🙄

Of course, I could just have gone back and read the whole thread. It is only 661 pages after all.

And just for the record, I despise Post Malone, just giving an example of somebody who is male, hasn't played before and has sold more records. Who to? I have no fucking idea, but somebody likes him and I come back to the same argument I always use in these situations "THEY BOOKED MUMFORDS TO HEADLINE!!!!"

[bombfrog]

And yeah, Dua Lipa's last couple of tracks have been really good. If she plays I'll probably be there.

[CaledonianGonzo]

3 minutes ago, bombfrog said:

So when I asked why people were so sure it was him and the only reply I got was "because Emily said they were male and hadn't been before" I was kind of justified in basing my responses on this limited information.

If people have done lots of other detective work and we do have harder evidence that it's him then that's kind of what I was asking for. 🙄

Of course, I could just have gone back and read the whole thread. It is only 661 pages after all.

And just for the record, I despise Post Malone, just giving an example of somebody who is male, hasn't played before and has sold more records. Who to? I have no fucking idea, but somebody likes him and I come back to the same argument I always use in these situations "THEY BOOKED MUMFORDS TO HEADLINE!!!!"

Odd hill to die on.

[jimmillen]

1 hour ago, Festival Liam said:

Wouldn't surprise me if Dua was as low as 3rd down on Pyramid. Didn't Ed Sheeran play that slot on his second album? Then onto headliner (like she will be on album 3). Would be nice to see her in the dark but doubt she's going to insist on a sub slot. 

I know I already posted it but can't get over how good 'Physical' is. 

She’s done OK since I saw her at G 2016... 8th down on the JP below Alessia Cara, to a less than 1/3 full tent!

Would love to see her sub on the Pyramid with a decent production but maybe is a bit too soon.

And yeah, ‘Physical’ is an absolute banger. Looking forward to the album...

[CaledonianGonzo]

Someone needs to start a #dedicated #Duathread

[SwedgeAntilles]

6 minutes ago, bombfrog said:

So when I asked why people were so sure it was him and the only reply I got was "because Emily said they were male and hadn't been before" I was kind of justified in basing my responses on this limited information.

If people have done lots of other detective work and we do have harder evidence that it's him then that's kind of what I was asking for. 🙄

Of course, I could just have gone back and read the whole thread. It is only 661 pages after all.

And just for the record, I despise Post Malone, just giving an example of somebody who is male, hasn't played before and has sold more records. Who to? I have no fucking idea, but somebody likes him and I come back to the same argument I always use in these situations "THEY BOOKED MUMFORDS TO HEADLINE!!!!"

This is like on football forums during international break when the boredom gets to one guy and he cracks and goes postal (malone) 

[chazwwe]

29 minutes ago, bombfrog said:

So when I asked why people were so sure it was him and the only reply I got was "because Emily said they were male and hadn't been before" I was kind of justified in basing my responses on this limited information.

If people have done lots of other detective work and we do have harder evidence that it's him then that's kind of what I was asking for. 🙄

Of course, I could just have gone back and read the whole thread. It is only 661 pages after all.

And just for the record, I despise Post Malone, just giving an example of somebody who is male, hasn't played before and has sold more records. Who to? I have no fucking idea, but somebody likes him and I come back to the same argument I always use in these situations "THEY BOOKED MUMFORDS TO HEADLINE!!!!"

The reason you were told it was a male who hadn't played before is because you were asking what makes him more likely than the bands that you mentioned. 

[Radiochicken]

1 hour ago, bombfrog said:

So when I asked why people were so sure it was him and the only reply I got was "because Emily said they were male and hadn't been before" I was kind of justified in basing my responses on this limited information.

If people have done lots of other detective work and we do have harder evidence that it's him then that's kind of what I was asking for. 🙄

Of course, I could just have gone back and read the whole thread. It is only 661 pages after all.

And just for the record, I despise Post Malone, just giving an example of somebody who is male, hasn't played before and has sold more records. Who to? I have no fucking idea, but somebody likes him and I come back to the same argument I always use in these situations "THEY BOOKED MUMFORDS TO HEADLINE!!!!"

The same Post Malone that is playing another gig on the Friday... Anyone else take ya fancy who’ve already been discounted on here?