2019 Headliners

[eFestivals]

1 minute ago, Glastoboy said:

I'm pretty sure yesterday I heard Lauren Laverne say she has Bob Smith on her show on Monday. If she swerves the question then I reckon you're right.

oh, he might be on there to announce it then. Not impossible.

If he does, that would still count as a late announcement of sorts (just not as late as i'm thinking), as the other shows have been announced for quite a while.

[zahidf]

I wonder if the cure do charge loads at the moment (in relative terms) just because they are playing so many festivals in europe

[henry bear]

2 hours ago, dentalplan said:

Why do people think Glastonbury is averse to ‘generic’ festival headliners? 

Ultimately Glastonbury can only get what’s available at the moment, and then only if they can afford it - I get that. But I guess the festival’s a victim of it’s own success in that over the last 15-20 years or so, they’ve been attracting some huge names, some of which are rarities on the festival circuit here. The Cure have been headlining festivals for over 30 years and it’ll be their 4th time at Glasto. No doubt they’ll go down well, as will The Killers, but for me personally, I’ll be elsewhere. 

[eFestivals]

9 minutes ago, zahidf said:

I wonder if the cure do charge loads at the moment (in relative terms) just because they are playing so many festivals in europe

i'd guess a big act would have a premium price if doing limited shows, and a cheaper price if doing a lot of them.

[scaryclaireyfairy]

If The Cure hadn't been a solid rumour this year, I'd not have been in the ticket scrum. Now that I have my ticket I won't cancel if they turn out not to be playing.  I'm not mental.

I'm currently wincing about the place with 3 broken ribs and The Fear that I won't be able to adequately carry my rucksack come June, Cure or no Cure though.

[The Nal]

The headliners usually are complete tosh.

Last few years we've had Foos, Ed, Radiohead, Muse, Coldplay, Florence, Kasabian, Mumfords, Arctics, Arcade Fire etc. Thats a large chunk of the headliners this decade. Go back further and we've Kings of Leon, The Verve and Basement fucking Jaxx. 

This year looks like the rule as opposed to the exception. 

[Hawros]

2 hours ago, FloorFiller said:

You’ve only got to look at the headliners of other supposed ‘major’ festivals this year to get that there’s very little available:

Reading/Leeds - One of G’17s headliners, The 1975 and two flavour of the month acts pushed to co-headliners.

IOW has been forced to become a midsized festival for a year at least.

TRNSMT have fucking Catfish and the Bottlemen.

Underwhelming as they may be, at least The Killers/Cure could still be considered major festival headliners, even if they aren’t particularly strong or inspired, but also you’ve got to imagine that only in a year as lacking in big touring names would these acts actually get the call - The Killers with seemingly nothing new to promote, and The Cure after a 25 year absence. 

You've got to feel for TRSMT a little - I get the feeling that their trajectory of becoming a major festival name has been dented by availability this year. The reaction's been savage. Then again, it might be the case that they've overspent on headliners last year, and are having to balance things a little.

Same kinda situation for Mad Cool. Fledgling major festival, spent the big bucks in the first couple of years getting stellar lineups, and this year hasn't quite continued that trajectory. (I'm actually a big fan of the MC lineup this year, and would be going if it wasn't for G).

[The Martini Police]

7 minutes ago, The Nal said:

The headliners usually are complete tosh.

Last few years we've had Foos, Ed, Radiohead, Muse, Coldplay, Florence, Kasabian, Mumfords, Arctics, Arcade Fire etc. Thats a large chunk of the headliners this decade. Go back further and we've Kings of Leon, The Verve and Basement fucking Jaxx. 

This year looks like the rule as opposed to the exception. 

You're suggesting *all* of those are 'complete tosh'. Maybe it's just that you don't like bands/guitars? For me, there's 3 of the best acts of the last 20 years in that list.

[Hawros]

1 hour ago, RarerThanDandyB said:

I think he’ll do a secret set early Sunday after a Saturday rest and duet with Kylie later on in the day. Perfect Glastonbury day. Everyone wants Nick Cave and hopefully we get a Killers esque hit set and a Kylie duet, feels like a fourth headliner. 

Tame Impala, The Cure, Nick Cave, The Killers. What a good set of acts to see over one weekend. 

The secret sets mooted like this are always unlikely, but seeing as he's doing these stripped back shows, how about a cheeky Sunday 'TBA' in the park, a la Thom and Johnny in 2010. Likely to be the worst kept secret though, given the Kylie link.

[RarerThanDandyB]

1 minute ago, Hawros said:

The secret sets mooted like this are always unlikely, but seeing as he's doing these stripped back shows, how about a cheeky Sunday 'TBA' in the park, a la Thom and Johnny in 2010. Likely to be the worst kept secret though, given the Kylie link.

That set would be amazing, I so hope it happens.

[The Nal]

49 minutes ago, The Martini Police said:

You're suggesting *all* of those are 'complete tosh'. Maybe it's just that you don't like bands/guitars? For me, there's 3 of the best acts of the last 20 years in that list.

Hardly amazingly exciting or exclusive though are they? People put way to much emphasis on the Glasto headliners. 

[Hugh Jass]

3 minutes ago, The Nal said:

Hardly amazingly exciting or exclusive though are they? People put way to much emphasis on the Glasto headliners. 

Of course people do, the Pyramid is the centrepiece of the entire festival and where the majority of punters are likely to spend the most time. It's the first thing the vast, vast majority of people look for/ask about when the lineup comes out.

[deadpheasant]

2 hours ago, eFestivals said:

There's still a potential direct impact, as a Glasto ticket holder might buy a ticket for one of those other shows if the Glasto show hasn't been announced.

But also it takes some of the thunder away from those other shows, as each extra show weakens the attraction of the ones already announced.

Of course, promoters have to accept that the act might play other shows, but at least will feel fairly comfortable about it if they're all paying around the same fee. A promoter wouldn't be so happy to have a competing show that's paid significantly less than they have.

A late announcement for Glasto lessens the competing effect and also helps smooth over any promoter upset at different prices.

It doesn't always work in that way but I can see it working like that for The Cure.

You think promoters pay the Eavii to stay quiet until late March/early April for this reason? Or is it simply just a mutual respect sort of thing?

[fatyeti24]

1 hour ago, The Martini Police said:

You're suggesting *all* of those are 'complete tosh'. Maybe it's just that you don't like bands/guitars? For me, there's 3 of the best acts of the last 20 years in that list.

Now I like Mumfords, Kasabian and Arctic Monkeys as much as the next guy, but 'best acts of the last 20 years'? 

I'm not so sure.

[The Martini Police]

4 minutes ago, fatyeti24 said:

Now I like Mumfords, Kasabian and Arctic Monkeys as much as the next guy, but 'best acts of the last 20 years'? 

I'm not so sure.

1/3. Radiohead, Arctic Monkeys and Arcade Fire. That's personal opinion of course but it's fair to say that several on that list are amongst the most acclaimed and popular acts in rock music in either UK or the rest of the world (or both, in some cases) over the last 20 years. 

 

45 minutes ago, The Nal said:

Hardly amazingly exciting or exclusive though are they? People put way to much emphasis on the Glasto headliners. 

Unrealistic to expect more than 1 'wildcard' like Adele, Metallica, Kanye, Stones every year IMO. Where are they gonna come from? Most acts will be those on the festival circuit and Glasto often gets the most in-demand ones (with a few notable exceptions due to money, obviously). Agree with @Hugh Jass on the last point, completely natural. 

[priest17]

2 hours ago, RarerThanDandyB said:

Nick Cave. What a good set of acts to see over one weekend. 

wow he's right.

[Username taken]

58 minutes ago, The Nal said:

Hardly amazingly exciting or exclusive though are they? People put way to much emphasis on the Glasto headliners. 

...he posted on the 774th page of a thread about Pyramid headliners

[RarerThanDandyB]

15 minutes ago, priest17 said:

wow he's right.

What’s that meant to mean aye?

[The Placid Casual]

7 minutes ago, Username taken said:

...he posted on the 774th page of a thread about Pyramid headliners

 

[priest17]

3 minutes ago, RarerThanDandyB said:

What’s that meant to mean aye?

Just fan-girling Nick Cave, nout meant by it.

[utwothefly]

3 hours ago, blazingstars said:

Killers love us. They'd come over for a Glasto one-off if asked - for sure.

Going to see their lead guitarist/essentially ex-lead guitarist play a small gig in London in early April. But presumably we'll know if they're playing or not by then? 

I’m going to that, a mates a big killers fan so I’m tagging along 

[Gnomicide]

2 hours ago, Glastoboy said:

I'm pretty sure yesterday I heard Lauren Laverne say she has Bob Smith on her show on Monday. If she swerves the question then I reckon you're right.

It'll probably be then, I'll be in the middle of a 3.5 hour drive with no access to DAB radio.

[RarerThanDandyB]

5 minutes ago, Gnomicide said:

It'll probably be then, I'll be in the middle of a 3.5 hour drive with no access to DAB radio.

 Could be before then and the interview includes questions about the Glasto headline slot - maybe. 

[Tartan_Glasto]

2 hours ago, Hawros said:

You've got to feel for TRSMT a little - I get the feeling that their trajectory of becoming a major festival name has been dented by availability this year. The reaction's been savage. Then again, it might be the case that they've overspent on headliners last year, and are having to balance things a little.

Same kinda situation for Mad Cool. Fledgling major festival, spent the big bucks in the first couple of years getting stellar lineups, and this year hasn't quite continued that trajectory. (I'm actually a big fan of the MC lineup this year, and would be going if it wasn't for G).

I think likely they over spent and didn’t re-coup as much of the cost as they would have liked. I imagine Queen & Adam Lambert cost a fair bit and that was the day that they had to reduce all the tickets to half price on a discount site in the weeks leading up to it!

So could be a combination of them being a bit cautious as to what they spend on headliners and also just picking from those actually doing the festival circuit this year.

[mufcok]

So Robert Smith is on 6 music Monday? That's gotta be an announcement surely