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[xxialac]

9 minutes ago, Threestripes said:

I worry  about some people on here who don’t give a **** that there’s was 100s of kids raped killed and tortured at a music festival.

That doesn’t happen there would be zero virtue signalling over Palestine.

 

 

I know you are not able to do logic but…I’ll try.

 

The attack by Hamas was vile and led to the misery you described which Im sure everyone on here see as an atrocity.

 

The equally genocidal attacks against civilians by the Israeli government are *ongoing* and the UK government is moreover complicit.

 

Many are trying to protest to get the latter to stop. It is not mutually incompatible with thinking the former was also an appalling crime.

 

 

 

Edited June 29, 2025 by xxialac

[Threestripes]

3 minutes ago, CaledonianGonzo said:

 

October 7th was bad enough without having to make up a load of bullshit in an attempt to win an imaginary Internet point.

Excuse me what did I say that was made up?

[xxialac]

3 minutes ago, Threestripes said:

Excuse me what did I say that was made up?

Are you really that stupid or just being perverse?

[jannybruck]

5 minutes ago, Threestripes said:

Blows the mind we’re talking about Palestine on a thread about one of the best festivals on the planet.

Should a festival not be for enjoying yourself listening to music?

Glastonbury's very essence is as a radical left leaning festival. It's been part of the festival's DNA for the best part of 50 years. It's an absolute misreading of the event and the people who built it to assume it's not tied to politics and protest.

Edited June 29, 2025 by jannybruck

[CaledonianGonzo]

4 minutes ago, Threestripes said:

Excuse me what did I say that was made up?

 

The main meat of your post.

[Threestripes]

6 minutes ago, jannybruck said:

Glastonbury's very essence is as a radical left leaning festival. It's been part of the festival's DNA for the best part of 50 years. It's an absolute misreading of the event and the people who built it to assume it's not tied to politics and protest.

Never heard anyone mention Palestine at Glastonbury pre October 7th.

 

[zahidf]

I am shocked and appalled that someone in a punk band would wish death upon a harmless occupying military force

[jannybruck]

Just now, Threestripes said:

Never heard anyone mention Palestine at Glastonbury pre October 7th.

 

Because there's been a groundswell of mainstream focus on it again primarily because of what happened after that? Not sure what's not clicking. Palestine support's had a presence there on site for many years amongst many other grassroots orgs and left leaning activist groups.

[kaosmark2]

Mod note:

 

I recognise the importance of discussing this topic, and it absolutely is relevant to the festival, so I want to leave this open. However:

 

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If the personal attacks continue, I'll have to lock this thread until another moderator gets back to open it and manage it with me. It's too much work to do by myself.

Edited June 29, 2025 by kaosmark2

[xxialac]

Just now, jannybruck said:

Because there's been a groundswell of mainstream focus on it again primarily because of what happened after that? Not sure what's not clicking. Palestine support's had a presence there on site for many years amongst many other grassroots orgs and left leaning activist groups.

I don’t think you will get through to threebraincells with your rational argumentation.

[fraybentos1]

18 minutes ago, jannybruck said:

Glastonbury's very essence is as a radical left leaning festival

It costs 8 quid for a cheese toastie lol

 

it’s capitalist through and through,charity donations don’t change that 

[tarw]

3 minutes ago, Threestripes said:

Never heard anyone mention Palestine at Glastonbury pre October 7th.

 

Then you have not been to many of them or have not gone to any of the green fields or left field. 
It is also more common in the wider festival when there is a conflict there, which has sadly been far too frequent in the time I’ve been going 

[BBC7BBCHEAVEN]

59 minutes ago, verrymerry said:

I just wanted to say, I'm sorry this happened to you 😟

Just be clear this isn't some childhood trauma, you just think looking at soldiers guns etc. is cool as a child. 

 

It's only later as an adult you become aware of the tactic being used - by standing near or gathering children they make themselves less of a risk as paramilitaries don't want to risk killing children. 

 

What's happening in Palestine is one thousand times worse, and yet people on here are defending it and painting Israel as some tragic victim

 

 

[jannybruck]

Just now, fraybentos1 said:

It costs 8 quid for a cheese toastie lol

 

it’s capitalist through and through,charity donations don’t change that 

Yes, and none of that negates from the fact that its roots are in protest and left activism, and that still exists on site every year regardless of how much you're paying for noodles or a warm cider. That was the point I was trying to make to OP.

[xxialac]

Personally I’m also glad I’m not on the same side of the debate as the far right. 
 

This is a man opposing Lucy Connolly’s imprisonment for inciting violence against vulnerable people during a time of riots  - the hypocrisy is off the scale.

[tarw]

10 minutes ago, fraybentos1 said:

It costs 8 quid for a cheese toastie lol

 

it’s capitalist through and through,charity donations don’t change that 

We live in a capitalist system so it’s going to be. 
You can take in as much alcohol and food as you like into the festival there’s no reason to pay £8 for a toasty unless you choose to. 
The right try to paint the picture that socialism means living on the bare basics and queuing for food like they did in Russia. This does not follow whatever the Mail tries to say when they rant about champagne socialism

[Spindles]

Indeed.  If you are poor and left wing it's the politics of envy, if you are wealthy and left wing it's the politics of hypocrisy.

 

 

[jannybruck]

5 minutes ago, xxialac said:

Personally I’m also glad I’m not on the same side of the debate as the far right.

Lowe is an engagement troll and would do anything that gets him some socials and media coverage that day, unfortunately. These types are really good at jumping on any story that's going to get some eyeballs on.

[tarw]

2 minutes ago, MEGATRONICMEATWAGON said:

 

The insane thing is that all the people regurgitating Free Palestine and defending a people who voted for Hamas - an organisation with an actual manifesto to remove Jews from the map, and posting little cutie emoji flags, didn't give a sh*t about this up until Oct 7th.

 

Hamas was elected two decades ago and no one cried at middle class festivals about it ever.

 

Also, no one seems to give a sh*t about Egypt putting up border fences against Gaza. It's only the Jews they hate.

 

Polarising again. Saying that the Palestinian people are to blame for electing them. The Israeli people voted for Netanyahu but I don’t blame them for his actions- that would be antisemitic. 
 

[BBC7BBCHEAVEN]

1 hour ago, Threestripes said:

Blows the mind we’re talking about Palestine on a thread about one of the best festivals on the planet.

Should a festival not be for enjoying yourself listening to music?

 

If it’s just a political festival now would the virtue signallers on here have no problem with someone going on stage shouting **** Hamas cowards and release the hostages ?

Apparently this year they even had an entire area called left field that was basically all political discussions 

 

Disgusting if you ask me and completely against what the festival is about 

 

What next, prominent left wing politicians and global leaders appearing on stage making speeches?

[MEGATRONICMEATWAGON]

59 minutes ago, xxialac said:

I know you are not able to do logic but…I’ll try.

 

The attack by Hamas was vile and led to the misery you described which Im sure everyone on here see as an atrocity.

 

The equally genocidal attacks against civilians by the Israeli government are *ongoing* and the UK government is moreover complicit.

 

Many are trying to protest to get the latter to stop. It is not mutually incompatible with thinking the former was also an appalling crime.

 

Ah yeah, why hasn't the defensive reaction to a middle ages' terror attack stopped yet with all the death chants at middle-class festivals going on?!

 

Maybe... and here's an idea which will totally blow your mind... maybe Gaza can send back the hostages they took.on Oct 7th and paraded around with such glee and humiliation??? Maybe that might bring an end to the war, because it short as sh*t is helping prolong it.  

 

 

[BBC7BBCHEAVEN]

1 hour ago, Threestripes said:

Excuse me what did I say that was made up?

Please feel free to give evidence of the 100s of children raped, tortured and killed? I've yet to see any evidence of it despite closing in on two years since this was spread throughout Western media without evidence 

 

I have since seen the details of the Hannibal directive - can you tell me how many Israelis were gunned down by IDF helicopters?

 

https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2024/7/7/israeli-army-used-hannibal-directive-during-october-7-hamas-attack-report

[beau1]

1 hour ago, Threestripes said:

I worry  about some people on here who don’t give a **** that there’s was 100s of kids raped killed and tortured at a music festival.

That doesn’t happen there would be zero virtue signalling over Palestine.

 

 

What an ignorant individual you are. Israel were being utter c**ts to Palestine well before October 7th, not that is any justification for what Hamas did. 

[BBC7BBCHEAVEN]

5 minutes ago, MEGATRONICMEATWAGON said:

 

Ah yeah, why hasn't the defensive reaction to a middle ages' terror attack stopped yet with all the death chants at middle-class festivals going on?!

 

Maybe... and here's an idea which will totally blow your mind... maybe Gaza can send back the hostages they took.on Oct 7th and paraded around with such glee and humiliation??? Maybe that might bring an end to the war, because it short as sh*t is helping prolong it.  

 

 

Absolutely baffling to me that anyone that holds your opinion on Palestine has ever enjoyed Glastonbury. In my view your spirit and that of the festival couldn't be more in opposition.

[DeanoL]

2 hours ago, BobMahelp said:

 

I wish that was true as much as you do, but if you truly believe that I have a bridge to sell you 

Okay lets talk about this rather than talking past each other and trying to win points. What makes you think it's otherwise? What makes you think either group are fundamentally different to you or I?

 

Because if it's based on what people are talking about on social media, that's the equivalent of assuming everyone in the UK is obsessed with policing what bathroom everyone uses.

 

This idea that the Israelis or the Palestinians are fundamentally different to us in some way, an idea purported by both sides, is part of the fiction built up to create distance between "them" and "us". It's the same sort of thing where we think people in the developing world are somehow not as smart as us, or that people in the 1500s were less smart than we are now...

 

And when I say "vast majority" I am talking like 80%. Not 99%, but not 51% either. But unless you've either been there, or you have friends who have been there and who have family/relatives there, I appreciate its hard to get your head around.