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Bob Vylan Chants


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41 minutes ago, stokelad84 said:

 

Tell your Hamas buddies to stop using women and children as human shields then.

 

Ironically it was your side that invaded a music festival to murder and rape Isreali's. But you lot give them a free pass.

Well tell your IDF buddies to stop building Kibbutz on occupied land and encouraging foreign students to join them. Is that not using human shields?

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33 minutes ago, nban2010 said:

People endorsing/justifying either side exclusively in this thread should check in with themselves. 

 

Both things can be true.

 

It can be absolutely awful and rage-inducing what is happening, but can also be totally unaccepptable for wishing death on folk. You can show your rage without needing to go low. And it's certainly not in the Glasto ethos.

 

Shame really.

 

You do know what the IDF are doing, don't you?

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16 minutes ago, The Nal said:

Real identity now isnt it. As per this thread, a good hook to score a quick online win. 

 

Not a Ukranian flag in sight (that was very 2022) and not a word about the 150k dead in 2 years in Sudan. 

 

Those wars aren't as fashionable. 

Christ, how many times does it need explaining to you morons that the UK government is complicit in one of these but not the others, and that’s why it’s the focus of protests.

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6 minutes ago, stokelad84 said:

 

You must be exhausted with so much mental gymnastics going on in your cranium. 

 

I bet you've convinced yourself "From the River to the Sea" is a peaceful gesture also? 

Hardly mental gymnastics pretty straightforward thinking. 
I will condemn atrocities from anyone. Just because I think that the Israeli government are committing war crimes and genocide doesn’t mean that I have any degree of support for Hamas Hezbolah or their backers. 
You seem to be the one polarising the discussion in inferring that anyone condemning the actions of the Israeli government is supporting them. 

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2 hours ago, stokelad84 said:

The Eavis family should be fined for firstly booking them and secondly openly endorsing their stance. 

 

Seen dozens of bands give Palestein a shout out, but now one has suggested Hamas release their hostages. Weird that.


shut the f**k up.

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2 hours ago, stokelad84 said:

The Eavis family should be fined for firstly booking them and secondly openly endorsing their stance. 

 

Seen dozens of bands give Palestein a shout out, but now one has suggested Hamas release their hostages. Weird that.

The most pathetic strawman argument. I worry about your mental reasoning skills.

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33 minutes ago, st dan said:


Well it would hardly be censorship, as less than 100 performances are broadcast out of the thousands across the weekend. Your argument would stand if only Kneecap and Bob Vylan weren’t shown and every single other act was. And you could argue their political views aside, they are probably only sized for a smaller stage, or early on the bigger ones. 
Not looking to get involved in a political debate here, all I’m saying is this could have been handled better. And I don’t mean by first vetting and cherry picking what to show like they did with Kneecap, which is probably the worst option of the lot. 

Plenty of the festival is not broadcast but they know exactly which stages and times are broadcast so making programming decisions to isolate acts with political messages from such stages is, personally, not something I would want to see. 

Also not wanting to argue and I realise it is impossible to come across as moderate n such discussions 😀so I will say that i fully understand your position. I guess I'm tired of the idea that we give any mileage to right wing media/politicians when they wouldn't spend a seconds thought to shut down anything they don't agree with.

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Genuinely ridiculous how obtuse people are being and choosing to understand them as meaning "every single individual person in the IDF should be killed"

Clearly chanting death to an organisation is literally that, that the organisation is not fit for purpose and should be "killed", it's the exact same as the ACAB sentiment, it's not a suggestion that every single policeman in the world is a piece of sh*t, but a suggestion that there are enough bad apples to make the institute not fit for purpose and in need of wholesale reform

 

Also sick to death of anything critical of Israel being deemed anti semitic, it's just an easy shield to hide behind rather than face up to the war crimes Israel are committing

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The festival will call that a holding statement and hope it takes the heat off for a while. It could also be seen as throwing Bob Vylan under the bus. Especially as the reports from the right wing gutter press like the Mail have misreported the chant etc.

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26 minutes ago, Alcatraz said:

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An unnecessary statement imo

Really Emily? A nice bit of rewriting of history there as my understanding is that the festival was created with and has a history of engaging with counter-culture, human rights organisations and groups which explicitly condemn state-backed death machines. From the V&A official history of the festival-

 

The Festival founders saw the event as a place for the "expression of free-thinking people".

 

We appear to be a long, long way from that ethos.

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4 minutes ago, Ryan1984 said:

The festival will call that a holding statement and hope it takes the heat off for a while. It could also be seen as throwing Bob Vylan under the bus. Especially as the reports from the right wing gutter press like the Mail have misreported the chant etc.

The last part is why I'm disappointed they've said anything at all

 

This festival takes shots every year from the Tory press. It would have happened if Bob Dylan/Kneecap hadn't played at all

 

So why play the predictable PR game? The next question from the c**ts will be whether Bob Vylan will be banned

 

If an act like BV are getting banned from Glasto then I'm afraid it has massively fallen off course

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Sadly that could be the last time Bob Vylan gets to play the festival, but honestly I think f**king good on him for making a protest knowing he'd be broadcast, especially when Kneecap was cut from the live stream 

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I have lost so much respect for the festival. 

 

EDF is a group, not a potentially vulnerable person and EDF members were not on site, putting their safety t risk.

 

And it's "hateful words" against a group that is (checks notes) committing genocide against innocent people. 

 

Freedom of speech should absolutely allow for that.

 

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