jannybruck Posted October 18, 2022 Report Share Posted October 18, 2022 4 minutes ago, ivan said: My mate was spending over a £1k for a weekend in Ibiza years ago Er, good for him I guess? But for most people who go to festivals a grand on a weekend has to be a top tier experience, and even as someone that's been to Primavera multiple times I can't say this year was unfortunately. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stuie Posted October 18, 2022 Report Share Posted October 18, 2022 32 minutes ago, Skip997 said: The "even with Eilish" is misleading. I've been reading articles for years that put the average age of punters in the 40's. No way... 30's maybe. But the data isn't collected. Registrations don't have date of birth so other than sampling or guesswork they don't know. 7 minutes ago, MrBarry465 said: The over 50 age group bring a lot to festivals imo. I was at Noisily this year and it had a really good cohort of people over 40 there and even what looked like a good few well into their 70s and it was the better for it. Bloody lovely too wasn't it! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
efcfanwirral Posted October 18, 2022 Report Share Posted October 18, 2022 8 minutes ago, ivan said: Not sure i would be doing Glastonbury V Stafford Leeds In the same year now ! That August week was hilarious doing both. I have no idea how I ever managed it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattiloy Posted October 18, 2022 Report Share Posted October 18, 2022 1 hour ago, Suprefan said: Theyre not going to drop the price of the festival after the currant financial crisis goes away. Nobody does that. Thats a horrible strategy. It either stays the same or it will increase at a smaller increment. But its not going down. How can the festival have bigger names at the top when they dont pay anyone anything. When you have to pay headliners a fifth of their real value, youre not just gonna offer the next artist up an extra £10k and say "fancy a night on the pyramid?". If Reading truly paid Arctics as much as was rumored, how does Glasto compete with that when it comes to anyone in general. I would sooner have them cut costs than pass the book onto the punter. The fees for the acts that are flavour of the month on radio1 must be higher than that paid for the kinds of acts who are coming through, playing medium sized venues. Just tilt the balance back in favour of the latter. Then you could easily make cuts to the budgets for the late night things without sacrificing much on the experience side. When you’re gurning your tits off, how much do you honestly care about the production. Maybe it helps add to the vibe a little bit, but its mainly the drugs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scatteredscreens Posted October 18, 2022 Report Share Posted October 18, 2022 1 minute ago, mattiloy said: I would sooner have them cut costs than pass the book onto the punter. The fees for the acts that are flavour of the month on radio1 must be higher than that paid for the kinds of acts who are coming through, playing medium sized venues. Just tilt the balance back in favour of the latter. Then you could easily make cuts to the budgets for the late night things without sacrificing much on the experience side. When you’re gurning your tits off, how much do you honestly care about the production. Maybe it helps add to the vibe a little bit, but its mainly the drugs. As everyone has said though it's such a slippery slope when we start cutting things. Of all the things to cut why would want to get rid of the production? Seems weird. Shall the south east corner just be an open space with a few tables and desk speakers? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stuie Posted October 18, 2022 Report Share Posted October 18, 2022 1 minute ago, mattiloy said: I would sooner have them cut costs than pass the book onto the punter. The fees for the acts that are flavour of the month on radio1 must be higher than that paid for the kinds of acts who are coming through, playing medium sized venues. Just tilt the balance back in favour of the latter. Then you could easily make cuts to the budgets for the late night things without sacrificing much on the experience side. When you’re gurning your tits off, how much do you honestly care about the production. Maybe it helps add to the vibe a little bit, but its mainly the drugs. Strongly disagree. The SEC was created to set Glasto apart from the pack and give it a USP. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dotdash79 Posted October 18, 2022 Report Share Posted October 18, 2022 3 minutes ago, mattiloy said: The fees for the acts that are flavour of the month on radio1 must be higher than that paid for the kinds of acts who are coming through, playing medium sized venues. Just tilt the balance back in favour of the latter. I don't think there is much difference the so called "Flavour of the month" will have the fee discounted by the record company as part of marketing. This seems like an attack on music you don't like being more prominent at the festival 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hugh Jass II Posted October 18, 2022 Report Share Posted October 18, 2022 2 minutes ago, stuie said: Strongly disagree. The SEC was created to set Glasto apart from the pack and give it a USP. We're slipping back into "they should just cut the stuff I don't use" territory. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jannybruck Posted October 18, 2022 Report Share Posted October 18, 2022 Nobody gets paid well for Glastonbury, top to bottom. Radio 1 buzz pop acts don't get what they probably expect, headline acts a fraction of what they'd get elsewhere, and smaller stage acts/DJs often just get paid in freebies. I doubt they'll be putting much of this extra money into paying bands (why would they when acts willingly do it for less money anyway?). It'll just mean mid/lower level acts are forced to skip out completely or just look at it like a loss leader as part of a wider festival season and hope they get some promo out of it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leath02 Posted October 18, 2022 Report Share Posted October 18, 2022 (edited) 11 minutes ago, mattiloy said: I would sooner have them cut costs than pass the book onto the punter. The fees for the acts that are flavour of the month on radio1 must be higher than that paid for the kinds of acts who are coming through, playing medium sized venues. Just tilt the balance back in favour of the latter. Then you could easily make cuts to the budgets for the late night things without sacrificing much on the experience side. When you’re gurning your tits off, how much do you honestly care about the production. Maybe it helps add to the vibe a little bit, but its mainly the drugs. I absolutely dispair at these statements, smacks of generalisation and ignorance If you cut takeaway the extremely well curated 'late night areas' as you call them, you end up with thousands and thousands of people with less to explore and enjoy during the night time, who will more than likely turn to the campsites for their entertainment instead and you likely end up with the anarchy you have at Reading year on year because there's nothing for people to do Edited October 18, 2022 by leath02 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaledonianGonzo Posted October 18, 2022 Report Share Posted October 18, 2022 Pop stars due it for the money but real bands do it for art's sake and love of the form - so it stands to reason that the latter are cheaper to hire. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ell99 Posted October 18, 2022 Report Share Posted October 18, 2022 Is the general consensus that there will also be price rises across the board for things like car parking passes, Worthy View/sticklinch/Tipis etc? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leath02 Posted October 18, 2022 Report Share Posted October 18, 2022 1 minute ago, Ell99 said: Is the general consensus that there will also be price rises across the board for things like car parking passes, Worthy View/sticklinch/Tipis etc? Car passes now £55 - is on the site - up from £50 (might be wrong) Prices for Campervans are also on there - someone else would have to give you comparisons Worthy View etc just spectulation at this point Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
strummer77 Posted October 18, 2022 Report Share Posted October 18, 2022 3 hours ago, JoeyT said: Also, given they literally turned everything down on the Wednesday this year (case in point being having to watch beans on toast play using the smallest speaker I’ve ever seen on the bandstand) Perhaps they could use some of these new spends to review the licence conditions. Edit: can you tell my daughter had me up in the middle of the night 😂 Joey just messaged me to say since this post he's now banned on the site. Any idea why? @eFestivals is it a mistake? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattiloy Posted October 18, 2022 Report Share Posted October 18, 2022 (edited) 20 minutes ago, leath02 said: I absolutely dispair at these statements, smacks of generalisation and ignorance If you cut takeaway the extremely well curated 'late night areas' as you call them, you end up with thousands and thousands of people with less to explore and enjoy during the night time, who will more than likely turn to the campsites for their entertainment instead and you likely end up with the anarchy you have at Reading year on year because there's nothing for people to do Despair away ya big drama queen. Many people go out every week and have a gay old time without needing to watch a big metal spider farting out flames. All I’m saying is that there are ways to save money, and spare the punter’s pocket without denuding the experience. Both in terms of the balance of acts on the lineup, and the cost of production, for the festival more widely, but specifically, the SE corner and arcadia spring to mind as presumably having high production costs which once one pingeths off thine tits, probably don’t accentuate the experience enough to justify the expense. You could get 99% of the effect with maybe 60% of the cost. Edited October 18, 2022 by mattiloy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BenG92 Posted October 18, 2022 Report Share Posted October 18, 2022 5 minutes ago, strummer77 said: Joey just messaged me to say since this post he's now banned on the site. Any idea why? @eFestivals is it a mistake? Is he on his phone? I've had false ban messages on mobile before related to IP address, was fine when I got home Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leath02 Posted October 18, 2022 Report Share Posted October 18, 2022 (edited) 10 minutes ago, mattiloy said: Despair away ya big drama queen. Many people go out every week and have a gay old time without needing to watch a big metal spider farting out flames. All I’m saying is that there are ways to save money, and spare the punter’s pocket without denuding the experience. Both in terms of the balance of acts on the lineup, and the cost of production, for the festival more widely, but specifically, the SE corner and arcadia spring to mind as presumably having high production costs which once one pingeths off thine tits, probably don’t accentuate the experience enough to justify the expense. You could get 99% of the effect with maybe 60% of the cost. You're assuming a few things here which I think are unfair Not everyone is pinging off their tits - I dont take drugs and frequent the SE Corner throughout the festival Even for those who are pinging, it's nice to have stuff to look at - maybe you dont enjoy visual aids, but everyone I go with absolutely loves the immersive environment these areas of the festival create. Half our discussions in the mornigs at the tent are "did you see x and y" ... "how cool was that thing" etc etc. Partying for hours on end in repeated dark fields would be immesurably more boring and really detract from the overall feel of the festival. You might as well just go to a rave in a warehosue or a forest at that point. Alot of the production values you seemingly account to these areas are one off costs for the initial creation. Installations that are returning year on year are already owned by the festival and simply require rebuilding - yes ok there is a labour cost, but that labour costs is offset in part with tickets Edited October 18, 2022 by leath02 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
strummer77 Posted October 18, 2022 Report Share Posted October 18, 2022 Just now, BenG92 said: Is he on his phone? I've had false ban messages on mobile before related to IP address, was fine when I got home Ah ok. I''ll get him to check. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy0808 v5 Posted October 18, 2022 Report Share Posted October 18, 2022 11 minutes ago, strummer77 said: Ah ok. I''ll get him to check. I’ve had that message multiple times the last three weeks. Usually fine once your phone hits a different mast to get its IP from or you get onto your own WiFi. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
discgoesmic Posted October 18, 2022 Report Share Posted October 18, 2022 57 minutes ago, CaledonianGonzo said: Pop stars due it for the money but real bands do it for art's sake and love of the form - so it stands to reason that the latter are cheaper to hire. On both sides, it's also the exposure they get afterwards. No coincidence that their careers or album sales rocket after playing a key Glastonbury set! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steviewevie Posted October 18, 2022 Report Share Posted October 18, 2022 I can afford it...but not sure it's worth it...and agree with mattiloy (for once). 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Radiochicken Posted October 18, 2022 Report Share Posted October 18, 2022 Well, it’s set off a lighting bolt in my group of first timers - lots of reconsidering (I’ve been loads of times) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aj6658 Posted October 18, 2022 Report Share Posted October 18, 2022 The question that comes to mind is are we gonna see another inflationary increase next year. We're gonna breach £400 in a couple of years. £250 a few years back to £400. Really feel that mentally as much as in your pocket Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
st dan Posted October 18, 2022 Report Share Posted October 18, 2022 (edited) I think it would probably sell out even if tickets went to £500. So they aren’t rising the prices as much as they could have without impacting the demand. As rubbish as it is and the fact it goes against the ethos of the festival, if people deem the price as too much now, then there are many people waiting in the wings to snap them up. Edited October 18, 2022 by st dan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dotdash79 Posted October 18, 2022 Report Share Posted October 18, 2022 1 minute ago, aj6658 said: The question that comes to mind is are we gonna see another inflationary increase next year. We're gonna breach £400 in a couple of years. £250 a few years back to £400. Really feel that mentally as much as in your pocket My gas and electric bill was £90 a month 2 years ago it's now £250 per month. so this isn't as bad as that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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