U.S. Presidential Election

[Gilgamesh69]

Can't believe there are actually people that hope Kamala becomes president some day.

 

Fuck  Dems, fuck Reps, fuck Tories, fuck New Labour. All class enemies 🤮

[Gingerfish79]

I have seen a few political commentators writing on Twitter today of a 'gut feel' that something has been missed or forgotten in the analysis, probably the same people who were forgotten in 2016. 

[thrillhouse188]

Just now, Gingerfish79 said:

I have seen a few political commentators writing on Twitter today of a 'gut feel' that something has been missed or forgotten in the analysis, probably the same people who were forgotten in 2016. 

It's a tough one, there were certainly people who in 2016 warned that despite polling it wouldn't take a huge swing away for a Trump win. It now appears to require even more of a swing, and without any real indication of where the swing will come from

But of course there's everything to play for until it's over!

[gazzared]

2 hours ago, FloorFiller said:

All getting a bit lost and jumbled in the other thread so thought I’d start this now that the election is upon us and so conversation will no doubt be amped up. 

Not at all Glastonbury related but hopefully can be kept here for visibility for tonight/tomorrow at least.

Great idea.... Sick of reading about it in the "when will this shit end" thread haha . I couldn't care a less who wins all politicians are corrupt once they're backers get into them.

[steviewevie]

Biden will win more votes, Trump will win the presidency. Carnage.

[steviewevie]

It is possible pollsters have over done with the weighting of polls to compensate for shy trumpsters to avoid another 2016 fuckup...and actually it will end up a massive Biden landslide.

[thrillhouse188]

1 minute ago, steviewevie said:

It is possible pollsters have over done with the weighting of polls to compensate for shy trumpsters to avoid another 2016 fuckup...and actually it will end up a massive Biden landslide.

I wonder if people will be less shy this time around, in 2016 he was a more unknown figure, so people might have wanted to keep their cards tight to their chest. Over his presidency it seems his support has become more vocal and cult-like, they don't need to be shy anymore!

[Punksnotdead]

I won't be staying up as I have my 2nd heart operation early Thursday morning, so I need my sleep. Not sure which I fear most: dying on the operating table or 4 more years of Trump! 😄

[mcshed]

20 minutes ago, Gingerfish79 said:

I have seen a few political commentators writing on Twitter today of a 'gut feel' that something has been missed or forgotten in the analysis, probably the same people who were forgotten in 2016. 

The polls were only out by a tiny amount last time and there have been measures put in place to correct that. This time there is a larger and more consistent difference.

That's not to say it's impossible that they are wrong but if they are it's because something fundamentally different has happened. Pollsters are professional companies employing many people to think about what's going on, its arrogant and silly to sit there and think "sure the polls say something but what if Republicans don't talk to pollsters" and imagine it's some original insight that the people whose livelihood depend on this stuff haven't thought of.

[zahidf]

 

[jannybruck]

I think people need to also remember unless you're already fully bought into his bullshit, there's nothing that Trump is offering this time around apart from a very vague "jobs!" push. It's just basically More Of The Same.

The prospect of voting for him out of some kind of rebellious anti-politician anti-establishment act like first time around will have absolutely lost its novelty for a lot of people, and Biden isn't positioned as a threat to their livelihoods or the country in the same way Hilary was. He's a boring, unthreatening choice and I feel like that might work in his favour for people who've flip-flopped.

[Homer]

I'm not always the most optimistic - I don't reckon Glasto 2021 is happening - but I reckon Biden will win.

[parsonjack]

21 minutes ago, Punksnotdead said:

I won't be staying up as I have my 2nd heart operation early Thursday morning, so I need my sleep.

Hope that all goes well for you buddy 👍

[zahidf]

Good start

 

[Homer]

17 minutes ago, jannybruck said:

I think people need to also remember unless you're already fully bought into his bullshit, there's nothing that Trump is offering this time around apart from a very vague "jobs!" push. It's just basically More Of The Same.

The prospect of voting for him out of some kind of rebellious anti-politician anti-establishment act like first time around will have absolutely lost its novelty for a lot of people, and Biden isn't positioned as a threat to their livelihoods or the country in the same way Hilary was. He's a boring, unthreatening choice and I feel like that might work in his favour for people who've flip-flopped.

Said this before on the other thread but I was trying to figure out what Trump actually stands for, so I Googled it and the Republicans haven't even bothered to produce a platform(/manifesto) this time. For contrast, from memory the Democrat one is over 80 pages.

[Guest]

It’s a joke, he’s taking his voters for granted one which was essentially the Dems problem in 2016. 

[Gilgamesh69]

14 minutes ago, Homer said:

I'm not always the most optimistic - I don't reckon Glasto 2021 is happening - but I reckon Biden will win.

This is the worst thing I've ever read this afternoon

[lighthouse]

16 minutes ago, Homer said:

I'm not always the most optimistic - I don't reckon Glasto 2021 is happening - but I reckon Biden will win.

Let's hope so. The Biden part. 🙂 

[Crazyfool01]

2 minutes ago, Gilgamesh69 said:

This is the worst thing I've ever read this afternoon

It’s early days .... we are only half hour in  

[Gilgamesh69]

7 minutes ago, crazyfool1 said:

It’s early days .... we are only half hour in  

[DareToDibble]

Can't think off the top of my head... do we have (m)any Americans on here?

I'm confident that Biden will win. America has had their fun, it's time to let an adult run the country again now.

[Homer]

[Punksnotdead]

1 hour ago, parsonjack said:

Hope that all goes well for you buddy 👍

Thanks mate 🙂

[steviewevie]

9 minutes ago, Punksnotdead said:

Thanks mate 🙂

yeah, ditto this. Good luck.

[steviewevie]

I think Biden will win big whilst pretending that I think Trump will win.