When will this shit end?

[JoeyT]

4 minutes ago, zahidf said:

 

One assumes we'll still ultimately end up with a higher % uptake in the UK than France will though won't we?

They were having massive issues initially weren't they? I assume that's not changed dramatically or Macron wouldn't have gone full blackmail?

[Matt42]

4 minutes ago, Nobody Interesting said:

Bless you - another one who reads one line and decides. If you wanted the context then you should have read all of what was written not just this one bit - don't you think? Probably not often

If you could be bothered to read all of what was written then you might understand - but I doubt it as your mind is closed.

You are pretty patronising though. You do talk to others that have a different point of view to you as stupid or misguided. 

[Simsy]

50 minutes ago, fraybentos1 said:

I think maybe post-pandemic we will look back and say maybe this sped up more flexible working behaviours, maybe people won't go into work sick, maybe some medicine has been advanced by a decade or whatever. All good changes. To me, 'new normal' means something worse than what we had before. Maybe that is just the way I take it to mean.

So changes you agree with are just progress being made, and "new normal" only covers bad things?

[Havors]

7 minutes ago, Nobody Interesting said:

Bless you - another one who reads one line and decides. If you wanted the context then you should have read all of what was written not just this one bit - don't you think? Probably not often

If you could be bothered to read all of what was written then you might understand - but I doubt it as your mind is closed.

I have to say there is a bit of irony there 🙂

[gooner1990]

9 minutes ago, DeanoL said:

While that's true, it's also where the biggest change happens because of how office working currently works. Those working in offices tend to have longer commutes than those working in retail (as jobs are more specialised), electricians, plumbers and so on already have flexible working if they work for themselves -though obviously it's limited by needing to be on site.

And regardless, things will change for everyone when you have a significant number of people no longer going into offices - it means less people in town centres, which means less stuff in town centres, and more stuff outside of towns - which includes retail, restaurants, cafes etc. It'll effect everyone to some extent or the other (and not always in a positive way).

I think this has been argued round and round in circles on here...14,000 people where I work and been told all in from early Sept onwards. (and I've been going in anyway)

Might be different for you where you live but its a sweeping generalisation to think that city centres will become ghost towns just because some office workers are now going to flexiwork....again, it might apply to you or your area but it might not elsewhere.

[efcfanwirral]

 

30 minutes ago, steviewevie said:

 

 

Does anyone know if they had a testing/vaccine proof regime? 

Edited July 14, 2021 by efcfanwirral

[efcfanwirral]

Interesting follow up to the Dutch festival story 

[fraybentos1]

7 minutes ago, Simsy said:

So changes you agree with are just progress being made, and "new normal" only covers bad things?

I'm saying when I hear people say new normal or words to that effect they're saying things will never be as good as we had it ever again. That's the implication I see.

I think things will change but it won't necessarily be worse going forward once this has passed.

[Nobody Interesting]

14 minutes ago, Matt42 said:

You are pretty patronising though. You do talk to others that have a different point of view to you as stupid or misguided. 

Did you read my whole first post and their selected parts being quoted or did you just leap in on this bit?

I tried to discuss but was ignored and patronised myself hence my full on sarcasm - you can call it what you want, you normally do............. and yes, that was patronising.

[Havors]

8 minutes ago, efcfanwirral said:

 

 

Does anyone know if they had a testing/vaccine proof regime? 

Is 5% infections good considering there was no restrictions? 

[Havors]

2 minutes ago, Nobody Interesting said:

Did you read my whole first post and their selected parts being quoted or did you just leap in on this bit?

I tried to discuss but was ignored and patronised myself hence my full on sarcasm - you can call it what you want, you normally do............. and yes, that was patronising.

Two wrongs don't make a right.... Get to your room young man! 😄😉 

[zahidf]

 

[efcfanwirral]

3 minutes ago, Havors said:

Is 5% infections good considering there was no restrictions? 

To be honest looking at that picture of how tightly packed and unventilated it is I'd say probably yes. Shit loads more will have been exposed to it than that, so between some people naturally being less susceptible and vaccines that probably is a good number. Even if its really 10% in reality which I'd guess it will be as not everyone will be tested 

[lemons]

10 minutes ago, efcfanwirral said:

 

 

Does anyone know if they had a testing/vaccine proof regime? 

Negative test, recovered or vaccinated according to one of the papers.

 

[Havors]

1 minute ago, efcfanwirral said:

To be honest looking at that picture of how tightly packed and unventilated it is I'd say probably yes. Shit loads more will have been exposed to it than that, so between some people naturally being less susceptible and vaccines that probably is a good number. Even if its really 10% in reality which I'd guess it will be as not everyone will be tested 

Still waiting on the Download results. They will be interesting. 

Im working Latitude, worried the results from that will come too late to be of any benefit for the rest of the summer festivals. Football stadiums will be back to full capacity though so I think it will be hard for the government to prevent festivals from going ahead. 

[steviewevie]

Well done Saj

 

[steviewevie]

 

[DeanoL]

19 minutes ago, gooner1990 said:

I think this has been argued round and round in circles on here...14,000 people where I work and been told all in from early Sept onwards. (and I've been going in anyway)

Might be different for you where you live but its a sweeping generalisation to think that city centres will become ghost towns just because some office workers are now going to flexiwork....again, it might apply to you or your area but it might not elsewhere.

They won't become ghost towns, but you have to understand city centres are quite intensely calibrated by market forces to have just the right number of facilities to meet demand. If you think you won't see the impact of even 10% of city workers no longer going into the city then you're mistaken.

[balthazarstarbuck]

1 minute ago, steviewevie said:

Well done Saj

 

 

[steviewevie]

Race progress

 

[efcfanwirral]

6 minutes ago, steviewevie said:

Well done Saj

 

😂😂 John Terry in his full kit comes to mind 

[balthazarstarbuck]

2 minutes ago, efcfanwirral said:

😂😂 John Terry in his full kit comes to mind 

Slight irony when he got the job as a result of somebody else cheating on their wife.

Edited July 14, 2021 by balthazarstarbuck

[found home in 2009]

3 minutes ago, steviewevie said:

Race progress

 

Was going to say the 51.5% figure above seems to contradict the Sajid Javid claim that we've double vaccinated two thirds of people, then realised his figures were just for adults whilst the above is for the whole population.

Also was curious what percentage Scotland was at (since the above has individual figures for Wales, but not the other countries of the UK).

Didn't find a number for whole of Scotland, but did find figures for individual regions of Scotland. Seems there is quite a disparity, 66.3% of highlands have been double vaccinated whilst only 49.7% of Edinburgh has. Not sure if that's to do with a disparity in average age for those areas or if some health authorities are just better organised than others.

https://www.scotsman.com/health/covid-vaccination-in-scotland-here-are-the-12-scottish-areas-with-the-lowest-vaccination-rates-including-edinburgh-and-dundee-as-scotland-awaits-news-of-restrictions-easing-3299621?page=1

 

[gooner1990]

10 minutes ago, DeanoL said:

They won't become ghost towns, but you have to understand city centres are quite intensely calibrated by market forces to have just the right number of facilities to meet demand. If you think you won't see the impact of even 10% of city workers no longer going into the city then you're mistaken.

You said sigificant amount of people in your previous message now you're saying possibly10%....quite the difference.

Again, it just depends on where you live I think.

For me Oxford (where I work) will always have tourism to fall back on, but perhaps elsewhere other places won't.

[Crazyfool01]

11 minutes ago, steviewevie said:

Race progress

 

Good to see the European countries slowly catching up despite the dodgy start to things … some might even jump ahead of us maybe ? Now for the rest of the world !!