When will this shit end?

[Nobody Interesting]

1 minute ago, incident said:

If that's all you're saying, it's a vague and meaningless statement that could mean damn near anything.

If that is what you choose to read it as then that, to you, is what it mans.

I shall choose to read your comments in a way they were not meant too.

[gooner1990]

22 minutes ago, MrBarry465 said:

As a species we never stay stagnant and are constantly evolving, sometimes things like pandemics fast track certain new societal norms. 

True...think back 40 years to 1981 (if you're old enough) and you will see the world was a very different place back then!

[steviewevie]

1 hour ago, Matt42 said:

How many do I need to share? 

oh, maybe 200?

[steviewevie]

12 minutes ago, gooner1990 said:

True...think back 40 years to 1981 (if you're old enough) and you will see the world was a very different place back then!

no internet. 3 tv channels. You could smoke in pubs, restaurants, buses and planes. A divided labour party and nutty tory government.

[steviewevie]

also...didn't have to wear seat belts. Halcyon days.

[fraybentos1]

36 minutes ago, MrBarry465 said:

Whats deemed normal is completely relative and evolves over time as well though.

I'm not suggesting anything by this post either, but people also need to understand that what society deems as 'normal' now will not be 'normal' in 40 years. 

As a species we never stay stagnant and are constantly evolving, sometimes things like pandemics fast track certain new societal norms. 

I think maybe post-pandemic we will look back and say maybe this sped up more flexible working behaviours, maybe people won't go into work sick, maybe some medicine has been advanced by a decade or whatever. All good changes. To me, 'new normal' means something worse than what we had before. Maybe that is just the way I take it to mean.

[fraybentos1]

29 minutes ago, incident said:

If that's all you're saying, it's a vague and meaningless statement that could mean damn near anything.

Exactly! No specifics just a vague notion of 'I know better than you'. WOuld like to hear some specifics here but of course they won't be forthcoming....

[steviewevie]

40 minutes ago, MrBarry465 said:

As a species we never stay stagnant and are constantly evolving, sometimes things like pandemics fast track certain new societal norms. 

yeah... Think it has shown how many sacrifices people are willing to make for the greater good, but also the limits, especially with the duration of these sacrifices. Also shows how important the state still is, despite the libertarian free marketer types. And also again, how human ingenuity, with enough willpower, money and cooperation can do amazing things..

[steviewevie]

..and how important political leadership is, and how you really don't want someone like Boris Johnson in charge during a crisis.

[stuartbert two hats]

13 minutes ago, steviewevie said:

no internet. 3 tv channels. You could smoke in pubs, restaurants, buses and planes. A divided labour party and nutty tory government.

😆

[DeanoL]

49 minutes ago, incident said:

If you honestly believe that, then why are you here?

I'm serious on this. If that statement turns out to be even halfway true, then Glastonbury Festival in a recognisable form will never happen again, so being on this forum is just torturing yourself.

I think most people on here would make big changes to Glastonbury if given the opportunity. Even if that's just "make it like it was X years ago". 

I think outdoor events will be fine long term though regardless.

17 minutes ago, Barry Fish said:

Not sure you can compare mild social, political and economic differences between 1981 and modern days compared to the shift in "normal" between 2019 and 2021.   It's not quite the same thing.

Part of it is that they happened gradually though. If the modern day internet had come in overnight I feel like it would be almost as big a change. But the other thing is the current "shift" is temporary. And was always known to be temporary. Except of course the things that aren't!

[steviewevie]

Looks like Balerearic Islands going to be moved back to amber.

[gooner1990]

26 minutes ago, fraybentos1 said:

I think maybe post-pandemic we will look back and say maybe this sped up more flexible working behaviours, maybe people won't go into work sick, maybe some medicine has been advanced by a decade or whatever. All good changes. To me, 'new normal' means something worse than what we had before. Maybe that is just the way I take it to mean.

I think a lot of people forget this doesn't apply to the entire workforce...yes its its going to make things easier for people like myself who work in offices.  But I also have friends who work in the theatre industry, postmen, chippys, sparkys, maintenence, catering, retail etc.  Nothing changes for them.

[steviewevie]

 

[zahidf]

4 minutes ago, steviewevie said:

 

Ewww Ding is the worse. Even worse than fake SAGE. He isn't even a real doctor.

[zahidf]

Only ZOE but some positives here...

[fraybentos1]

Good drop in Scotland again with the daiy numbers. 2636 which is down like a thousand on last wednesday. Also the lowest positivity rate I have seen a while (albeit still too high)

[steviewevie]

4 minutes ago, zahidf said:

Ewww Ding is the worse. Even worse than fake SAGE. He isn't even a real doctor.

what you mean by a real doctor?

[zahidf]

1 minute ago, steviewevie said:

what you mean by a real doctor?

As in he pretends to be a doctor but doesn't have any qualifications

[st dan]

Just now, zahidf said:

As in he pretends to be a doctor but doesn't have any qualifications

[zahidf]

 

[zahidf]

Just now, st dan said:

Ha yes! 

[Nobody Interesting]

41 minutes ago, fraybentos1 said:

Exactly! No specifics just a vague notion of 'I know better than you'. WOuld like to hear some specifics here but of course they won't be forthcoming....

Bless you - another one who reads one line and decides. If you wanted the context then you should have read all of what was written not just this one bit - don't you think? Probably not often

If you could be bothered to read all of what was written then you might understand - but I doubt it as your mind is closed.

[DeanoL]

14 minutes ago, gooner1990 said:

I think a lot of people forget this doesn't apply to the entire workforce...yes its its going to make things easier for people like myself who work in offices.  But I also have friends who work in the theatre industry, postmen, chippys, sparkys, maintenence, catering, retail etc.  Nothing changes for them.

While that's true, it's also where the biggest change happens because of how office working currently works. Those working in offices tend to have longer commutes than those working in retail (as jobs are more specialised), electricians, plumbers and so on already have flexible working if they work for themselves -though obviously it's limited by needing to be on site.

And regardless, things will change for everyone when you have a significant number of people no longer going into offices - it means less people in town centres, which means less stuff in town centres, and more stuff outside of towns - which includes retail, restaurants, cafes etc. It'll effect everyone to some extent or the other (and not always in a positive way).

[Fuzzy Afro]

1 hour ago, Nobody Interesting said:

You must be very old to have lived through a pandemic then as the last global one was a hundred years ago.

and as for the rest of your comment - grow up, stop thinking about nobody but you and realise there is a huge world and not just the small isolated part you exist in.

Not even remotely true. There was a global pandemic  in 2009 with around 1/6 of the world’s population infected