Kneecap

[CaledonianGonzo]

Need to keep em on WH

[steviewevie]

7 hours ago, Suprefan said:

 

no, they dont. Again, look at ours. They will go after anytbing thats against their agenda. Uk gov still has it out for people from the north and esp for ones calling out their sh*t when it comes to Israel and Palestine. They see Kneecap is making an impression and will do whats needed to supress. They will only do so much indirectly and then hope it scares others into ending it and the jobs done.
 

Right now Glasto will be their biggest platform if it all goes well and the ratings will be through the roof. If the gov or the Bbc try anything then the headlines will all negative against them and theres no way they want that. So they are clutching at straws for the time being.

I mean there's a lot of conspiracy stuff with all that. Maybe govt could intervene and stop it, maybe home office has said go after these horrid Irish rotters telling fans to kill their MPs. But ultimately Hezbollah and Hamas are proscribed terrorist groups and if you're caught supporting them your in trouble...that could be protesters on a march or a band on stage. It happens elsewhere, but this is more high profile..and obviously the band are making the most of it too.

[steviewevie]

24 minutes ago, CaledonianGonzo said:

Need to keep em on WH

Be flipping rammed. I might even go, need to be on the right side of history after all.

[Suprefan]

1 hour ago, CaledonianGonzo said:

Need to keep em on WH

no damn way. Other at minimum. I dont think you want there to be a whole safety thing to come up after all of this. Like WH is already gonna be rammed for En Vogue but they arent going to be drawing the eyeballs that Kneecap is gonna have on them.

[CaledonianGonzo]

Yeah it'll be busy.  Just get there early.

 

En Vogue look like they’ll clash with Alanis Morissette so I dunno if their crowd will be especially notable.

[suzie sue]

Could this be the first year with no labour party names on the lineup? They would see it as too risky now to be linked to glasto 

[steviewevie]

12 minutes ago, suzie sue said:

Could this be the first year with no labour party names on the lineup? They would see it as too risky now to be linked to glasto 

Zarah Sultana and Andy Burnhan? Not sure they count...

[smogo]

Get some perspective, people!

 

Kneecap are professional musicians who've found themselves in a bit of trouble with the law. They're not some terrorist organisation, and they're not going to do anything now that might risk getting them banged up. They will be on their best behaviour, their Glastonbury shows will go off without a hitch, their West Holts set will almost certainly be streamed live on iPlayer as normal, and come the Saturday evening you lot here will wonder what all the fuss was about.

 

Kneecap: they're just a band.

Edited May 24, 2025 by smogo

[MilkyJoe]

1 hour ago, CaledonianGonzo said:

Yeah it'll be busy.  Just get there early.

 

En Vogue look like they’ll clash with Alanis Morissette so I dunno if their crowd will be especially notable.

Sounds like the Brothers Bar will be an ideal place to hang out for an hour.

[danmarks]

After sitting back from this a bit- in my moment of epiphany (and cos I'm old) - it's a lot of the furore the sex pistols went through. 

Being called out on images used (on clothing for them swastika), being 'banned' from performing, but some places feeling they could let them perform and it all going off ok.

Having their values and ideas held up as 'abhorrent '.

Ok admittedly one of them is dead but now Sex pistols are an act that perform their one album to a crowd of people who cheer and mostly weren't there. (Not quite novelty- but almost a- I've seen them- tick list.

John Lydon has been proven right about some of the stuff he was saying at the time (Savile et al) and now seen as a slightly contrary national treasure.

 

[Ayrshire Chris]

19 minutes ago, smogo said:

Get some perspective, people!

 

Kneecap are professional musicians who've found themselves in a bit of trouble with the law. They're not some terrorist organisation, and they're not going to do anything now that might risk getting them banged up. They will be on their best behaviour, their Glastonbury shows will go off without a hitch, their West Holts set will almost certainly be streamed live on iPlayer as normal, and come the Saturday evening you lot here will wonder what all the fuss was about.

 

Kneecap: they're just a band.

Exactly 

when you witness the horrific scenes and the suffering being inflicted on the innocent population of Gaza by the Israeli forces the fact that an Irish rap group waves a flag on a stage in England pales into insignificance. Gaza has been reduced to rubble in scenes reminiscent of Hiroshima. Of course what happened to the Israelis was equally horrific but their response in my opinion has been way over the top. 
Personally Kneecap don’t appeal to me musically so I wont be there but musicians have a history of controversy and saying things to provoke and initiate discussion whether this is the situation in Ireland or Gaza. I have my own opinions but totally understand others may hold opposing views. 
 

[HotChipWillBreakYourLegs]

6 minutes ago, danmarks said:

After sitting back from this a bit- in my moment of epiphany (and cos I'm old) - it's a lot of the furore the sex pistols went through. 

Being called out on images used (on clothing for them swastika), being 'banned' from performing, but some places feeling they could let them perform and it all going off ok.

Having their values and ideas held up as 'abhorrent '.

Ok admittedly one of them is dead but now Sex pistols are an act that perform their one album to a crowd of people who cheer and mostly weren't there. (Not quite novelty- but almost a- I've seen them- tick list.

John Lydon has been proven right about some of the stuff he was saying at the time (Savile et al) and now seen as a slightly contrary national treasure.

 

 

And advertises butter.

[TheDayman]

When we talk about what Glastonbury “stands for”, beside the obvious crowd issues, it would send a very strong message if they moved them to the Pyramid.

[steviewevie]

5 minutes ago, TheDayman said:

When we talk about what Glastonbury “stands for”, beside the obvious crowd issues, it would send a very strong message if they moved them to the Pyramid.

Which is probably the main reason that they won't 

(but they actually should)

[HotChipWillBreakYourLegs]

5 hours ago, she bangs the drums said:

 

 

Non Twitter link for those who don't like to give Musk his clicks.

 

https://nitter.net/KNEECAPCEOL/status/1926027181433462995#m

 

 

[clarkete]

3 hours ago, danmarks said:

 

John Lydon has been proven right about some of the stuff he was saying at the time (Savile et al) and now seen as a slightly contrary national treasure.

 

 

Not a hypocritical old whinging arsehole? 

 

Ever since he suggested the US working class should vote for a group of billionaires everything he says these days is arse gravy. 

 

(sorry the Trump thing and his recent hypocrisy on breakfast telly winds me up somewhat) 

 

Edited May 24, 2025 by clarkete

[kalifire]

Tricky one, re: stage placement. Moving them to a bigger stage is the only sensible thing to do from a crowd management perspective, given the heightened interest as a result of all this. West Holts will likely be closed again, and if any stage closes their area, the booking team f**ked up. Nobody with a wristband should be told ‘sorry mate, you can’t get in’.

 

However, they need to tread carefully here. Changing the stage could be perceived as megaphoning the message, and Glasto is a bit too much of a cultural institution to ruffle feathers now, not because the message isn’t important and valid, but from a depressingly corporate perspective. Sad but true. 
 

I don’t envy them the decision. 

Edited May 24, 2025 by kalifire

[FloopFiller]

I think they’ll keep em on Holts. They’ve made bookings in the past that were obviously too big for their respective stages and had no problem just sticking up the ‘*** stage full, seek alternatives’ signs so don’t know why it’d be any different here. 

[Porcelina]

I don't think moving from WH to Other would be much of a story. It's only if they ended up on the Pyramid that it's a huge talking point outside of the Glasto sphere.

[danmarks]

 

2 hours ago, HotChipWillBreakYourLegs said:

 

And advertises butter.

Supposedly to pay for his last album.

But yeah selling out seems to come to almost everyone eventually on some level.

Neil young has sold rights to his back catalogue etc

[danmarks]

22 minutes ago, clarkete said:

 

Not a hypocritical old whinging arsehole? 

 

Ever since he suggested the US working class should vote for a group of billionaires everything he says these days is arse gravy. 

 

(sorry the Trump thing and his recent hypocrisy on breakfast telly winds me up somewhat) 

 

Oh absolutely now- ever since moving from the UK and still commenting- as morrisey.

But in the 18 month zeitgeist of the sex pistols being public enemy I can see parallels

[clarkete]

13 minutes ago, danmarks said:

Oh absolutely now- ever since moving from the UK and still commenting- as morrisey.

But in the 18 month zeitgeist of the sex pistols being public enemy I can see parallels

 

Phew, we're on the same page about that 😊

 

When he made the breakfast telly reference to "human beings" i was sure he was being satirical. 

 

[TheDayman]

47 minutes ago, kalifire said:

Glasto is a bit too much of a cultural institution to ruffle feathers now, not because the message isn’t important and valid, but from a depressingly corporate perspective. Sad but true. 
 

I don’t envy them the decision. 

I’d view it as the opposite - what an opportunity for the festival.

 

I mean, whose feathers are they really going to ruffle that are of any real consequence?

[kalifire]

7 minutes ago, TheDayman said:

I mean, whose feathers are they really going to ruffle that are of any real consequence?

They will have a great many relationships with corporate partners, and a relationship with the council as well, who may well feel like amplifying a band with Kneecap’s opinions would be consequential. 
 

Again, I’m in no way defending any of that, but an operation of Glasto scale is very complex.

[TheDayman]

8 minutes ago, kalifire said:

They will have a great many relationships with corporate partners, and a relationship with the council as well, who may well feel like amplifying a band with Kneecap’s opinions would be consequential. 
 

Again, I’m in no way defending any of that, but an operation of Glasto scale is very complex.

Yeah, I get that but what corporate partners do we think are actually consequential? Their whole shtick is about avoiding big commerical sponsors so I can’t see them being a huge revenue stream. Maybe I’m wrong though?

And then when we consider the 100’s of millions the festival adds to the UK economy, I’m sure it gives them a decent amount of wiggle room to push the boat out around messaging that ultimately aligns with the festivals identity(albeit a bit watered down from its early years).