Kneecap

[wrongturn]

Just popped in to show my support for Kneecap playing. 

 

Also very reassuring to see many sensible, articulate, and compassionate defenders of Palestinians in the chat.

 

I've run out of up votes. Nice one team x

[foolee]

3 hours ago, wro_lap said:

I have this continuously growing fear that my piss break between Bob Vylan and Kneecap will see me unable to get back into the field

Hadn’t even considered this, hoping for cloud and will have to be on the spirits before having a cider for Kneecap. Does anyone know the best spot for a really busy West Holts for sound/good view but also potentially near Brothers? 

[she bangs the drums]

I cannot wait for the drop in Rhino Ket to land. It will go off big time.

[Physical_graffiti]

Don’t think there’s any need to cancel shangri la if people are worried about numbers, access is restricted. Just means you’re not getting anyway near shangri la unless you miss a headliner that night.

 

I see a few comments saying kneecap support Hamas and Hezbollah. No they don’t. Happy to clear that one up.

 

Btw I look forward to seeing any act singing a rebel song in a Glaswegian pub this weekend arrested for being terrorists, which I can only assume will happen given this sudden shift in policy towards musicians and their on stage expressions. 

[bobsacamano]

5 minutes ago, foolee said:

Hadn’t even considered this, hoping for cloud and will have to be on the spirits before having a cider for Kneecap. Does anyone know the best spot for a really busy West Holts for sound/good view but also potentially near Brothers? 

 

If you can make front left that's better than front right which can get a bit crushy for the really big sets. Do bear in mind that crusts do appear regularly in the West Holts and a few 'sorrys' 'just finding my way back to my girlfriend/boyfriend' and squeezing through can result in much more spacious surroundings and better views as long as you can put up with the odd moan and shove.

 

 

[Suprefan]

They better move their stage placement. I also have a bet to win. But still, safety first.

[steviewevie]

1 hour ago, TheDayman said:

If you're just trying to be provocative, you’ll probably get the reaction you're looking for. But if you’re actually interested in a fair and consistent conversation about state violence and accountability, I would imagine most people would welcome that

yeah right

[she bangs the drums]

1 hour ago, churlie100 said:

 

https://dice.fm/partner/100-club/event/k6vrqq-kneecap-22nd-may-the-100-club-london-tickets

Sold out in 90 seconds....

[Ayrshire Chris]

Police Scotland have just said allowing Kneecap to perform at Transmt would mean they would have to mount a significant police operation. Be interesting to see the festivals response. 

[siblin]

Personally i'm gonna stay well away from this.  We on a relatively sensible forum discuss the nuance between states, their people, their governments, their militaries, and we still struggle.

Get a field of groups of people with their flags and footballification (you just know based on this people are going to take Hamas/Hezbollah flags, which will upset a lot of people way more than a palestine flag), and the emotive topics of whats going on in Gaza and the October 7th.  I'm worried its going to introduce a really unpleasant element.  I just hope it doesnt escalate into more than just shoutiness.

[Superscally]

1 hour ago, foolee said:

Hadn’t even considered this, hoping for cloud and will have to be on the spirits before having a cider for Kneecap. Does anyone know the best spot for a really busy West Holts for sound/good view but also potentially near Brothers? 

Try near the speakers, by Brothers

[steviewevie]

1 minute ago, siblin said:

Personally i'm gonna stay well away from this.  We on a relatively sensible forum discuss the nuance between states, their people, their governments, their militaries, and we still struggle.

Get a field of groups of people with their flags and footballification (you just know based on this people are going to take Hamas/Hezbollah flags, which will upset a lot of people way more than a palestine flag), and the emotive topics of whats going on in Gaza and the October 7th.  I'm worried its going to introduce a really unpleasant element.  I just hope it doesnt escalate into more than just shoutiness.

I'll see how it is looking..if it's rammed I probably won't be arsed...but depends on what others in my group think and what else is on.

 

[Ayrshire Chris]

2 minutes ago, siblin said:

Personally i'm gonna stay well away from this.  We on a relatively sensible forum discuss the nuance between states, their people, their governments, their militaries, and we still struggle.

Get a field of groups of people with their flags and footballification (you just know based on this people are going to take Hamas/Hezbollah flags, which will upset a lot of people way more than a palestine flag), and the emotive topics of whats going on in Gaza and the October 7th.  I'm worried its going to introduce a really unpleasant element.  I just hope it doesnt escalate into more than just shoutiness.

Which is the fear from the Scottish police having to deal with the Transmt crowd. Throw in the traditional football rivalries in Glasgow and they may have justified concerns. 

[Physical_graffiti]

7 minutes ago, siblin said:

Personally i'm gonna stay well away from this.  We on a relatively sensible forum discuss the nuance between states, their people, their governments, their militaries, and we still struggle.

Get a field of groups of people with their flags and footballification (you just know based on this people are going to take Hamas/Hezbollah flags, which will upset a lot of people way more than a palestine flag), and the emotive topics of whats going on in Gaza and the October 7th.  I'm worried its going to introduce a really unpleasant element.  I just hope it doesnt escalate into more than just shoutiness.

Have you been to glastonbury? People will not bring Hamas flags ffs. Also “footballification” in this country, with very few limited exceptions, is very right wing (I say that as a football fan and away traveller). You’re not getting any of that at a kneecap gig, and at glasto of all places 

 

people shouting along to the songs or chanting free Palestine? Yes

Edited May 22, 2025 by Physical_graffiti

[siblin]

2 minutes ago, Physical_graffiti said:

Have you been to glastonbury? People will not bring Hamas flags ffs. Also “footballification” in this country is very right wing (I say that as a football fan and away traveller). You’re not getting any of that at a kneecap gig, and at glasto of all places 

 

people shouting along to the songs or chanting free Palestine? Yes

12 times.   they absolutely will.

 

It only takes a small element, and footballification happens whenever things get tribal.

Edited May 22, 2025 by siblin

[Physical_graffiti]

1 minute ago, siblin said:

10 times.   they absolutely will.

 

It only takes a small element, and footballification happens whenever things get tribal.

We’ll revisit the week after glasto to review whether Hamas flags were flown at Glastonbury then! 😄

[Crazyfool01]

2 minutes ago, siblin said:

12 times.   they absolutely will.

 

It only takes a small element, and footballification happens whenever things get tribal.

The majority of people brought tickets way before the announcement very very few If any will be headed there to get aggy in my opinion 

[CaledonianGonzo]

I mean there'll be circle pits opened up down the front so it absolutely will get rowdy.  But that's completely detached from the politics of it all.

 

 

 

 

 

Edited May 22, 2025 by CaledonianGonzo

[siblin]

8 minutes ago, Ayrshire Chris said:

Which is the fear from the Scottish police having to deal with the Transmt crowd. Throw in the traditional football rivalries in Glasgow and they may have justified concerns. 

 

1 minute ago, Crazyfool01 said:

The majority of people brought tickets way before the announcement very very few If any will be headed there to get aggy in my opinion 

 

Very few is non-zero.  In a field of 20,000 lets say 99% are sensible, that still leaves a possible 200 idiots in a kettled in crowd!

 

Will one of those decide its a good idea to point to what the guy has been arrested for and take a hamas/hezbolla flag?  Theres a very good chance (we've all seen pro-palestine marches where the press tag the entire crowd based on one persons ill-thought sign).  Will that lead to further agro?  possibly.

 

Just not worth the risk going anywhere near it.

[bobsacamano]

10 minutes ago, Ayrshire Chris said:

Which is the fear from the Scottish police having to deal with the Transmt crowd. Throw in the traditional football rivalries in Glasgow and they may have justified concerns. 

 

100% and this has very little to do with Israel/Palestine in Scotland. The violent sectarianism in Glasgow can go off very easily and doesn't need much of a spark. Bear in mind the police in Scotland are getting very f**king tired of policing the sectarian morons on both sides. Totally different situation to Glastonbury.

[siblin]

.. and that doesnt include the possibility someone wanders in with a Israeli flag or even an IDF logo flag just to stir sh*t up.

[CaledonianGonzo]

1 minute ago, siblin said:

.. and that doesnt include the possibility someone wanders in with a Israeli flag or even an IDF logo flag just to stir sh*t up.

 

That's just steviewevie.  You can ignore him.

[steviewevie]

1 minute ago, siblin said:

.. and that doesnt include the possibility someone wanders in with a Israeli flag or even an IDF logo flag just to stir sh*t up.

yeah that will be me being all interested in a fair and consistent conversation about state violence and accountability.

[steviewevie]

But I'm starting to think it's worries like this that might mean they will get cancelled.

[smogo]

Oh no, not a flag...! A flag at Glastonbury! 😱