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18 hours ago, bobsacamano said:

 

Christ hahaha didn't notice. Well at least they had them on the 11th and not the 12th however I'm sure all the drunken boneheads looking for a punch up would view that as a mere technically. 

 

 


That just frees them up to make a weekend of it.

 

It’s unfortunate but I’ve been to TRNSMT, I live in Glasgow, this is the right thing to do. Better they do their own gig.

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23 minutes ago, MEGABOWL said:


That just frees them up to make a weekend of it.

 

It’s unfortunate but I’ve been to TRNSMT, I live in Glasgow, this is the right thing to do. Better they do their own gig.

Well if you think that the police and state should be curating music festivals and preventing bands playing with no history of trouble that’s up to you. 
 

Personally I think it’s pathetic and other bands should withdraw from the festival. 

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2 minutes ago, Colorblindjames said:

Well if you think that the police and state should be curating music festivals and preventing bands playing with no history of trouble that’s up to you. 
 

Personally I think it’s pathetic and other bands should withdraw from the festival. 


Im sure you do. But the world doesn’t exist in black and white, and this is a particularly delicate situation unique to this City and that festival on that weekend. Them playing their own gig (hopefully sold out, maybe more than one) is more sensible. They still get more good free publicity too.

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14 minutes ago, MEGABOWL said:


Im sure you do. But the world doesn’t exist in black and white, and this is a particularly delicate situation unique to this City and that festival on that weekend. Them playing their own gig (hopefully sold out, maybe more than one) is more sensible. They still get more good free publicity too.

It isn’t unique to Glasgow though. I’m from Belfast and Kneecap are playing an outdoor event here in August. 
 

Like if Scottish people can’t behave themselves that’s the government’s problem not Kneecaps. To ban a band not associated with any trouble to date is a sinister step IMO. 
 

Are the 50 or so orange marches planned for Scotland not delicate?

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10 minutes ago, Colorblindjames said:

It isn’t unique to Glasgow though. I’m from Belfast and Kneecap are playing an outdoor event here in August.

 

I think you probably know that's not really the same thing. 

 

The Belfast show is a Fontaines gig with Kneecap as support. It's pretty safe to assume that the worst elements of the unionist/loyalist population probably aren't going to be interested in paying to see either one of those acts - doesn't mean that they don't exist, just that they'll be elsewhere that night.

 

 

Whereas TRNSMT is a totally different story. Kneecap were like 3rd or 4th on the bill, with most people there to see 50 Cent. That show is clearly going to attract a much wider spread of people, and so inevitably that'll include a pissed up knucklehead element from both sides.

 

 

 

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16 minutes ago, incident said:

 

I think you probably know that's not really the same thing. 

 

The Belfast show is a Fontaines gig with Kneecap as support. It's pretty safe to assume that the worst elements of the unionist/loyalist population probably aren't going to be interested in paying to see either one of those acts - doesn't mean that they don't exist, just that they'll be elsewhere that night.

 

 

Whereas TRNSMT is a totally different story. Kneecap were like 3rd or 4th on the bill, with most people there to see 50 Cent. That show is clearly going to attract a much wider spread of people, and so inevitably that'll include a pissed up knucklehead element from both sides.

 

 

 

I thought the issue was the risk of sectarian elements in the crowd? So why has this issue only suddenly come to light not when they were originally booked? 
 

why is this an issue at a festival and not at an orange march in the city? 
 

You reckon unionists don’t like fontaines? Is this another toaster in the cupboard thing? 

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47 minutes ago, Colorblindjames said:

It isn’t unique to Glasgow though. I’m from Belfast and Kneecap are playing an outdoor event here in August. 
 

Like if Scottish people can’t behave themselves that’s the government’s problem not Kneecaps. To ban a band not associated with any trouble to date is a sinister step IMO. 
 

Are the 50 or so orange marches planned for Scotland not delicate?


No, if some people can’t behave themselves that’s a problem for the people around them who want to be safe. They’ve not been banned from playing, they’re doing it in a better venue after the Police told organisers their costs would go up if they played. If people local to the situation are telling you this is sensible it may be a good idea to listen. 

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5 minutes ago, MEGABOWL said:


No, if some people can’t behave themselves that’s a problem for the people around them who want to be safe. They’ve not been banned from playing, they’re doing it in a better venue after the Police told organisers their costs would go up if they played. If people local to the situation are telling you this is sensible it may be a good idea to listen. 

So the reason they have been banned is due to policing cost? Do you have a link for this?

 

Reason seems to change on a daily basis. 
 

Why have the police suddenly changed their costs? What’s changed? Who pays to police the orange marches? 
 

Why would I listen to people with an agenda? 

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4 hours ago, Colorblindjames said:

You reckon unionists don’t like fontaines? Is this another toaster in the cupboard thing? 

 

Not Unionists as a general entity. But the knuckle dragging extremes, absolutely.

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1 hour ago, incident said:

 

Not Unionists as a general entity. But the knuckle dragging extremes, absolutely.

Ah well that’s up to the polis to deal with them as they would any other misbehaviour. I don’t think it’s cool screwing over ticket holders just because some people might misbehave. But then we know it’s not really about sectarianism is it. 

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This is from a BBC article:

 

The group are still due to perform at the Glastonbury festival on 28 June.

 

And 2000 Trees posted the following on Facebook:

 

"After loads of speculation & numerous requests from the press of late, we are happy to confirm that YES! KNEECAP are still headlining the Thursday at 2000trees this July.

If their recent shows in London are anything to go by, this promises to be one of the most memorable headline sets we've ever had at 2000trees."

 

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c5yqdlv85vno

 

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6 hours ago, damo101 said:

Kneecap just posted the west holts poster with them on it

 

on Bluesky btw

they can just be confirming that theyre still performing and dont want to spoil a stage move. If they were on Other or Pyramid you wouldnt allow them to have that flyer cause it could leak.

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5 hours ago, Olshansky said:

 

Hardly anything left to destroy 

still people there. they took their time because nuking the place wouldnt allow them to go in there ant take it over and build it up for themselves. you know they wouldve ended this in 5 seconds if given the chance.

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8 hours ago, MEGABOWL said:


That just frees them up to make a weekend of it.

 

It’s unfortunate but I’ve been to TRNSMT, I live in Glasgow, this is the right thing to do. Better they do their own gig.

Yes, unfortunately both sides of the sectarian divide up here have in recent years attracted large organised ultra groups who pathetically dress like paramilitaries but are mainly gullible youngsters led by others who are politically motivated. The thought of these groups clashing at a festival is what the police are concerned about. Public safety has to be paramount. Easy to control these groups as they ‘March’ to a football game but not in an open festival field.

Glastonbury is totally different, no sectarian elements, overwhelming majority in the crowd sympathetic to the cause of the Palestinians and plenty of alternatives if you don’t want to see them. 

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14 hours ago, Colorblindjames said:

So the reason they have been banned is due to policing cost? Do you have a link for this?

 

Reason seems to change on a daily basis. 
 

Why have the police suddenly changed their costs? What’s changed? Who pays to police the orange marches? 
 

Why would I listen to people with an agenda? 


From the BBC article “ Police Scotland said last week that allowing the trio to perform at Glasgow Green on 11 July would require "a significant policing operation".“

 

BBC article

 

That ‘agenda’ line is just silly. Not everybody who disagrees with you or presents a reality that negates your position has an “agenda”. Refusing to listen to them because you don’t like what they’re saying is foolish and irrational. 

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7 hours ago, efcfanwirral said:

They need to be moved elsewhere now, it's a bit mad really on that stage given their rise


I’d say so. They’re on in Shangri-La as well, that could be mayhem. Move them on to the Other and that should ease the pressure on both sets a bit.

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