2025 Headliners

[Skip997]

18 minutes ago, ClementsMike said:

meat and potatoes guitar act 

That’s exactly the problem, dull as….

[CaledonianGonzo]

2 minutes ago, fraybentos1 said:

I just can't see Fender and Fred in the same year. Tbh if it seems like they can secure 3 other headliners of a good size I don't see why they would go for Fred at all.

 

Possibly all come down to a straight choice between Fred and Fend - and in that circumstances who's to say they won't just opt for Fred?

[Gejonimo]

3 minutes ago, Skip997 said:

That’s exactly the problem, dull as….

Yeah but stick it in a pie and phwoar

[fraybentos1]

9 minutes ago, CaledonianGonzo said:

 

Possibly all come down to a straight choice between Fred and Fend - and in that circumstances who's to say they won't just opt for Fred?

Yeah they could absolutely. I dunno why but I just can't picture Fred headlining the Pyramid even though I'm sure the rumours hold weight. It just seems left field compared to the genres they usually put up there. Sam Fender would be a more popular booking imo and 2025 seems a good time to get him as he is fresh into his 3rd album cycle after ripping the arse out of the last one. 

 

As you say though, depending on the 3rd headliner it might not even matter (if they have got someone big)

[stuie]

The more I think about it, I reckon Fred was signed for Pyramid 2025 pretty soon after his Other stage set.   Maybe it was the reason why he wanted to sub Other, not just for the sunset vibes as was stated at the time. 

[balti-pie]

I'm having the exact same issues with Sam Fender as I've had with Bruce Springsteen for the last 25 years or so.

I've got good mates, whose taste in music i really respect, who love them both. So i've tried, i really have, in listening to different albums or seeing live videos of em, trying to expose myself a bit and open up to whatever it is i'm missing, and they're both just so spectacularly standard and run of the mill i cant be arsed. Headliners for other people, absolutely not for me. 

[nikkic]

1 hour ago, Gnomicide said:

 

I think @nikkic means only played the festival twice, not appeared at a smaller stage before subbing? Is that right, nikkic?

 

 

Kasabian is a bit of a weird one, subbed Pyramid twice, then headlined.

Yep that’s right. Only played twice and in the two biggest slots. Sub then headliner. 

[henry bear]

4 hours ago, Dg_vic said:

2005 The Killers subbed the pyramid and obviously went on to headline in future years. 
 

 

Blimey, that was a right sausage fest 😬

[Superscally]

1 hour ago, Justcalledtosay said:

My wife's not a football fan. She's a music fan. Why would it be naive?

...because if she's followed Sam Fender or been to any of his gigs, or saw the Glasto gig on the telly, then you see tons of Newcastle shirts. His sax player always wears one. It was at Newcastles football stadium. It's like going to an Oasis gig and not expecting bucket hats. 

Remember, naive isn't an insult.

[fraybentos1]

12 minutes ago, stuie said:

The more I think about it, I reckon Fred was signed for Pyramid 2025 pretty soon after his Other stage set.   Maybe it was the reason why he wanted to sub Other, not just for the sunset vibes as was stated at the time. 

that would have been bold from the festival imo

[Yokel Again]

I'm sure Kasabian played the Other Stage very early in the day around 2004 ish. That or my memory is playing tricks on me. 

[henry bear]

14 hours ago, nikkic said:

Has there ever been an act who has only played the festival twice, as a sub then as headliner?

 

Good trivia question! 

Going back in the mists of time, Ian Dury subbed in 1984 and headlined the following year. Don’t think he appeared again 

[stuie]

36 minutes ago, fraybentos1 said:

that would have been bold from the festival imo

 

well, he pulled one of the biggest crowds Other has ever had and then sold 5 x Ally Pallys in a few minutes so it's not entirely unreasonable to think they might have felt bold! 

[Justcalledtosay]

44 minutes ago, Superscally said:

...because if she's followed Sam Fender or been to any of his gigs, or saw the Glasto gig on the telly, then you see tons of Newcastle shirts. His sax player always wears one. It was at Newcastles football stadium. It's like going to an Oasis gig and not expecting bucket hats. 

Remember, naive isn't an insult.

I think there's a difference between a few shirts at a Glasto gig and what the gig at St James' park turned into.

[4AssedMonkey]

56 minutes ago, balti-pie said:

I'm having the exact same issues with Sam Fender as I've had with Bruce Springsteen for the last 25 years or so.

I've got good mates, whose taste in music i really respect, who love them both. So i've tried, i really have, in listening to different albums or seeing live videos of em, trying to expose myself a bit and open up to whatever it is i'm missing, and they're both just so spectacularly standard and run of the mill i cant be arsed. Headliners for other people, absolutely not for me. 

 

I'm in exactly the same boat, it's so by the numbers it just wafts by and leaves no trace.  See also:  The War on Drugs.

 

Maybe we should start a club....

[Mardy]

Sign me up for your club, too, please.

 

[gfa]

1 hour ago, CaledonianGonzo said:

 

Possibly all come down to a straight choice between Fred and Fend - and in that circumstances who's to say they won't just opt for Fred?

May have got Fred before Sam Fender even looked active / in consideration to be fair

[nikkic]

36 minutes ago, henry bear said:

Going back in the mists of time, Ian Dury subbed in 1984 and headlined the following year. Don’t think he appeared again 

This is the type of knowledge I was looking for. 

Top darts. 

[fraybentos1]

11 minutes ago, gfa said:

May have got Fred before Sam Fender even looked active / in consideration to be fair

They would have known in advance Sam's plans to an extent surely. Not as if Glasto will be waiting around for tours to be announced the same way punters are. Was also fairly likely he'd be back sooner rather than later. 

[Gnomicide]

2 hours ago, balti-pie said:

I'm having the exact same issues with Sam Fender as I've had with Bruce Springsteen for the last 25 years or so.

I've got good mates, whose taste in music i really respect, who love them both. So i've tried, i really have, in listening to different albums or seeing live videos of em, trying to expose myself a bit and open up to whatever it is i'm missing, and they're both just so spectacularly standard and run of the mill i cant be arsed. Headliners for other people, absolutely not for me. 

 

Similar except I love Springsteen but, so far at least, I can't get on with Fender. Just feels like watered down Bruce.

[Superscally]

1 hour ago, Justcalledtosay said:

I think there's a difference between a few shirts at a Glasto gig and what the gig at St James' park turned into.

I've never seen more Newcastle shirts and flags or allusion to a football team by a band ever that I did at Glasto and I've seen Oasis and Liam...

[NorthernSoul52]

3 hours ago, 49Lawson said:

Even though I think there's better options Glasto missed the boat on over the years, I'll always be a fan of them championing home-grown guitar-based headliners.

Definitely have missed a few over the years.

[NorthernSoul52]

Anyway, Fender won't turn Glastonbury into Nuremberg. He'll be fine, and he's strong enough.

 

If O-Rod / Fred / Fender means a balling trio of Other headliners with the fees to match too, you'll consider it a win.

[thatTFBguy]

3 hours ago, 49Lawson said:

Whilst I would say the St James Park gig was a massive celebration of NUFC, everyone who used to go to the local gig scene up here as Fender was emerging knows he did not care about football/NUFC at all until it became convenient. The idea that he is notorious for being a "HUGE Newcastle fan" as you say is fully cultivated by his team because his success was definitely helped/fuelled by the resurgence of Newcastle when they got the Saudi money.

 

I must admit, I think he would be great as a Pyramid headliner, but much like a post a few pages back, I went to see him at the arena in Newcastle and it was just absolutely cult-like. Really spoiled the experience with 'Toon' chants in between and during just about every song. Every time I've seen him outside of the North East he's been much more enjoyable with limited Newcastle interaction.

 

I agree that Sam Fender + Newcastle United shitck is a bit much - i personally enjoy it but i can totally see why non Newcastle fans find it off putting - my argument was solely that the SJP gigs were an exception where the "cult-like" stuff was to be expected, and was actively welcomed pretty much from day dot. If you went to those gigs and didn't prepare for it to basically be a "Newcastle United Party w/ Sam Fender" that's on you, outside that specific gig, aye I understand the gripes. 

[4AssedMonkey]

47 minutes ago, Gnomicide said:

 

Similar except I love Springsteen but, so far at least, I can't get on with Fender. Just feels like watered down Bruce.

 

Surely, watered down Bruce Springsteen = water?