When will this shit end?

[steviewevie]

Vaccines have given us hope, but they won't end the global battle against Covid

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2021/feb/04/vaccines-covid-virus-mutate-years

[zahidf]

 

[JoeyT]

Just now, steviewevie said:

Vaccines have given us hope, but they won't end the global battle against Covid

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2021/feb/04/vaccines-covid-virus-mutate-years

In other words just like the flu.

Honestly lose my mind at some of the headlines the media uses to get clicks only to find that the actual content says everything we already know...

[JoeyT]

 

[steviewevie]

3 minutes ago, JoeyT said:

In other words just like the flu.

Honestly lose my mind at some of the headlines the media uses to get clicks only to find that the actual content says everything we already know...

but it isn't just like flu.

[JoeyT]

1 minute ago, steviewevie said:

but it isn't just like flu.

I'm pretty sure in order for it to survive it will eventually mutate to something which isn't as severe?

We will also have regular vaccinations to deal with the said mutations.

Like the flu.

[stuartbert two hats]

4 minutes ago, steviewevie said:

but it isn't just like flu.

But it will be pretty similar once the vaccines are completed.

[grumpyhack]

1 hour ago, Huckleberry Finn said:

 

 

 

Apologies if this is an over-intrusive question, but what age category do each of your loved ones fall into? Would be interesting to know if those outside the JCVI top four have started getting jabbed. No obligation to reveal, of course.

I'm 71 and Mrs GH is 69.  My brother-in-law, who's 72 has just had his appointment for a first jab next week too.  We all live in South Wales and have been called to mass vaccination centres set up in community sports halls.

[steviewevie]

1 minute ago, JoeyT said:

I'm pretty sure in order for it to survive it will eventually mutate to something which isn't as severe?

We will also have regular vaccinations to deal with the said mutations.

Like the flu.

well...yeah...ok, hopefully just like flu then.

[st dan]

10 minutes ago, JoeyT said:

 

So essentially 1 in 10 people in care homes aren’t taking up the vaccine? Hopefully it’s for medical reasons and not them just refusing to have it. 

Edited February 4, 2021 by st dan

[Toilet Duck]

6 minutes ago, JoeyT said:

In other words just like the flu.

Honestly lose my mind at some of the headlines the media uses to get clicks only to find that the actual content says everything we already know...

Was about to pop in and say the same thing. The headline suggests that even with vaccines, this (lockdowns, restrictions, no normality) is going to go on for a very long time yet, but the piece doesn't really say that at all and is exactly what most have suggested would be where we end up, mild disease for the most part, some individuals needing further protection (ie managed like flu, still a problem and still puts pressure on our healthcare systems, but manageable with surveillance and updated vaccination programmes). It's always possible for biology to ruin our predictions, but it does seem the most likely end point based on all the information we have.

[JoeyT]

 

[duke88]

1 minute ago, st dan said:

So essentially almost 1 in 10 in care homes aren’t take up the vaccine? Hopefully it’s for medical reasons and not them just refusing to have it. 

Will probably be some who have refused it, and some won't have been able to take at the time because they've been ill or on certain medication. 

[steviewevie]

2 minutes ago, Toilet Duck said:

Was about to pop in and say the same thing. The headline suggests that even with vaccines, this (lockdowns, restrictions, no normality) is going to go on for a very long time yet, but the piece doesn't really say that at all and is exactly what most have suggested would be where we end up, mild disease for the most part, some individuals needing further protection (ie managed like flu, still a problem and still puts pressure on our healthcare systems, but manageable with surveillance and updated vaccination programmes). It's always possible for biology to ruin our predictions, but it does seem the most likely end point based on all the information we have.

always a bummer when ToiletDuck backs the other person.

[Toilet Duck]

Just now, steviewevie said:

always a bummer when ToiletDuck backs the other person.

It's entirely possible I could be wrong and this bastard of a virus throws something else at us! (I don't think it will, but never assume...you know the rest!). 

[Mr.Tease]

 

[Ozanne]

 

[Jcatley]

8 minutes ago, JoeyT said:

 

That’s currently my favourite twitter account. There is light at the end of the tunnel 

[gizmoman]

6 minutes ago, duke88 said:

Will probably be some who have refused it, and some won't have been able to take at the time because they've been ill or on certain medication. 

If the patient has to give consent I suppose it's possible some of the ones with severe dementia etc. are not capable of doing that and so may be missed, maybe they need next of kin with POA permission.

[zahidf]

9 minutes ago, duke88 said:

Will probably be some who have refused it, and some won't have been able to take at the time because they've been ill or on certain medication. 

They also haven't been able to go to care homes because of outbreaks in a few

[Ryan1984]

We have a yellow warning for snow again in the south east this weekend. Hopefully won’t hold things up too much?

[steviewevie]

1 minute ago, Ryan1984 said:

We have a yellow warning for snow again in the south east this weekend. Hopefully won’t hold things up too much?

yeah...winter is coming.

[Toilet Duck]

2 minutes ago, zahidf said:

They also haven't been able to go to care homes because of outbreaks in a few

It does say though that 99% of care homes have been visited by vaccination teams. Hopefully 90% of residents vaccinated, along with close to 100% of staff, will be the foundations of the ring of steel that was supposed to have been put around care homes in the first place. With the emerging data on suppression of transmission through vaccination, if family members and visitors are also vaccinated this should hopefully be sufficient herd immunity to protect those that for whatever reason didn't or couldn't take the vaccine. As more of the population get their shots, we should see community levels of the virus drop quite a bit if the transmission data is true. 

[st dan]

Denmark and Norway now added to the list of countries to not recommend the Oxford/AZ vaccine for the over 65’s ... its all feeling a bit like the Eurovision voting now. 

[Crazyfool01]

11 minutes ago, Ryan1984 said:

We have a yellow warning for snow again in the south east this weekend. Hopefully won’t hold things up too much?

look on the positive side though .... at least its not a yellow snow warning