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Think what you like, I have 4 daughters, why would I want a world where women are discriminated against? I may disagree on the solutions but still want equality.
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Some horrific tales there, seems the business is (still) full of predatory men. Not sure prioritizing female acts at Glasto is going to change that. Needs people to challenge and prosecute where appropriate.
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I've no idea, maybe none, we don't know who was available for each slot and exactly why the decisions were made, personally I don't really care about who plays which slot, we only have a fraction of the lineup at the moment and I can always find plenty to see, I've seen plenty of great female acts in the past too, well before this "problem" was identified. Only posted on this topic because it was said no one else shared northernangels view.
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But it's not, the festival have a target of 50/50 male/female acts, slots are allocated on the basis of sex,(or should that be gender?) https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/newsbeat-51485570 "When Emily was arranging this year's line-up, she explicitly blocked out spots for female acts, filling the blank spaces with the word "female"." If there was already a 50/50 split in the business then there would be enough equal quality acts to fill those slots, since there isn't a 50/50 split they are promoting some lesser popular acts into those slots. I think we will get to 50% organically. No need to push it like this.
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Camping on a slope - suggestions as to how to mitigate this
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You did well, £131 on amazon and it's got great reviews, bit of an extra weight to carry but I reckon it will be worth it, certainly looks the biz. -
Times certainly have changed, the bands I referenced were about in the 1970's, 50 years ago, society has changed massively especially in regard to females taking on roles which were once predominately male. I am sure there is still the occasional issue for females in the music business but i seriously doubt it is anything like as bad as it once was. (see The Runaways, another 70's female band if you want horror stories of rape and abuse). "You seem to be under the impression that both male and female acts have always walked down the same path in the industry world, faced similar issues and had similar opportunities. That is not correct." never said or implied that, in fact the examples I gave illustrate the fact that girl bands had to have a gimmicky name to get noticed, they didn't get the same respect male bands had, life has always been harder in business (music and otherwise) for women but things have improved, there are plenty of women in the music biz and plenty of opportunity, look at the lineup for any festival and compare it to say 20 years ago and you will see a change. The argument really is, do female acts need to be given extra promotion? I don't think they do now, there are enough about and plenty of them are good enough to succeed on their own. You clearly disagree, at what point will this "positive discrimination" be unnecessary? How will we know things are at a fair level? Will we need to keep treating women as victims of male dominance forever?
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I was responding to BluesmanP's criticism of northernangel's point regarding the positioning of artists on the lineup, yes it's true all the artists you mention deserve an appearance, but some seem to get promoted beyond their popularity, SimZ, for example headlined West Holts last time, didn't seem to get a massive crowd but is now well up the list for the Pyramid, I can't see how she is more popular than Paloma Faith, (or Cyndi Lauper for that matter), is SZA really headliner material? I had honestly never heard of her until she was mentioned on these threads a couple of weeks ago, it must be me getting too old. it may be the festival are actively seeking a younger crowd, can't rely on us old un's to keep going forever, in which case it may well make sense. Will be interesting to see how busy the pyramid is this year.
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The fact is, female bands in the past simply weren't there, the odd ones that did appear such as Fanny and The Slits were seen as a novelty, times have changed and there are a lot more female musicians now but operating a "positive discrimination" policy to try to get female artists better slots is not the way, let artists get the right slot on their merit not their sex. northenangel is right to point it out. It might take a few more years to have a truly balanced lineup but it will happen naturally, no need to try and force things.
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This is the point, it's no good having a great selection of acts available if you can't get to the stage to see them, a good lineup is decimated in a muddy year because you can't get across site to see the ones you want. If having to endure the rain isn't bad enough you also miss some of the acts you really wanted to see.
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Very odd!, I just tried again in firefox and it's not there, tried in chrome and it's as you said, same in brave, must be some caching issue with firefox. Just tried removing cookies for glastonbury and it has now appeared, very weird. Funny how they took it off the main page but it's still on the lineup page though. Maybe just an error.
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?, don't see it anywhere, lineup tab just shows last years acts.
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TBH it was me baiting Neil a bit after his illogical regionalist (is that a word?) comment. Don't want to derail this thead further so am happy for you to delete this if you wish.
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The cutting of NI and freezing of the personal allowance is their solution to the "Triple Lock Problem". They can't scrap the triple lock, it's too politically costly, they can't keep it either without changes as it's too costly financially and getting worse each year as more boomers retire. By freezing the allowance until the basic state pension catches up (£12570 pa) they ensure poor pensioners who only have the state pension aren't affected. All other pensioners are then taxed on ALL their non-state income, currently 20% but soon to rise as income tax and NI are "merged", may well end up at 30% or so. The upshot is the richer pensioners will be paying for the poorer pensioners.
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Of course vaccines work, even this new mRna vaccine worked to a limited degree, but the virus mutated and continued to infect people, the point is the vaccine mandates were unjustifed. People should have the right to decide for themselves,
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Really? Have you learned nothing in the last 2+ years? The covid vax never prevented the spread of the disease, even the manufacturers never claimed that, at best it reduced the effect on those infected, leading to fewer hospitalisations. The "take the vax to protect others" was pure propaganda with no scientific basis, we were lied to.