the wonderwhy Posted April 7, 2017 Report Share Posted April 7, 2017 Because Noel's put out two albums & managed to make them not sound terrible. He's actually alright live, too Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingcrawler Posted April 7, 2017 Report Share Posted April 7, 2017 5 minutes ago, thewayiam said: But if Noel could then why shouldn't Liam? Do you really think Liam could sell out several arena's? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thewayiam Posted April 7, 2017 Report Share Posted April 7, 2017 20 minutes ago, kingcrawler said: Do you really think Liam could sell out several arena's? I think he'd do a lot better with a load of Oasis tracks like Noel did from the start, I think that's where Liam went wrong in a big way tbh. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SwedgeAntilles Posted April 7, 2017 Report Share Posted April 7, 2017 I've not liked any of the Beady Eye stuff, but I've always been a massive Noel mark so my opinion is probably compromised. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingcrawler Posted April 7, 2017 Report Share Posted April 7, 2017 47 minutes ago, thewayiam said: I think he'd do a lot better with a load of Oasis tracks like Noel did from the start, I think that's where Liam went wrong in a big way tbh. I agree and reckon this will do better than Beady Eye but Noel gigs have a reasonably high proportion of middle aged couples alongside the typical Oasis crowd which I can't see Liam ever attracting, so I can't see him ever managing arenas. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
plaskins Posted April 8, 2017 Author Report Share Posted April 8, 2017 On 07/04/2017 at 0:56 AM, thewayiam said: Can you imagine him being the Muse sub?, not sure how much you believe but I thought after him playing Summer Sonic in Japan V weekend that there was a chance, I don't think it'll rule him out of Glasto though, he knows what that would do for him and if he'd need to be fairly high to stop him playing. If I'm honest, I can't see him only playing one UK festival this summer. I could be wrong, time will tell. I'd rather it was announced at some point if he was playing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
plaskins Posted April 8, 2017 Author Report Share Posted April 8, 2017 Just call me the Liam steam-roller Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
plaskins Posted April 8, 2017 Author Report Share Posted April 8, 2017 1 hour ago, thewayiam said: I think he'd do a lot better with a load of Oasis tracks like Noel did from the start, I think that's where Liam went wrong in a big way tbh. Noel went out with the ones he wrote, Liam could've doine the same.. but I'm outta time and songbird probably wouldn't have stacked up against the ones Noel was doing. Liam then did a few tracks from Oasis (Noel written) on the second tour. I think he may as well play 50% Oasis on this tour (aka what his brother does). At the festival gigs at least where nobody apart from hardcores will know his album. I can't see him Don't Look Back In Anger though, that was tongue in cheek.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan_C Posted April 8, 2017 Report Share Posted April 8, 2017 He should play the likes of Columbia, Bring It On Down, Married With Children, Hey Now, Fade Away, All Around The World, D'You Know What I Mean?, Fade In-Out, Go Let It Out, Gas Panic! Bag It Up. Most of them are songs that Noel is never likely to play, and some big fan favourites in there as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hugh Jass Posted April 8, 2017 Report Share Posted April 8, 2017 47 minutes ago, Alan_C said: He should play the likes of Columbia, Bring It On Down, Married With Children, Hey Now, Fade Away, All Around The World, D'You Know What I Mean?, Fade In-Out, Go Let It Out, Gas Panic! Bag It Up. Most of them are songs that Noel is never likely to play, and some big fan favourites in there as well. He'd massacre them all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FloorFiller Posted April 8, 2017 Report Share Posted April 8, 2017 1 minute ago, Hugh Jass said: He'd massacre them all. To be fair he's gonna massacre whatever he chooses to sing so he might as well massacre songs the crowd know the words to so they can just sing over the top of him. Him on stage singing solo stuff that nobody knows the words to - now there's the danger zone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thewayiam Posted April 8, 2017 Report Share Posted April 8, 2017 11 hours ago, kingcrawler said: I agree and reckon this will do better than Beady Eye but Noel gigs have a reasonably high proportion of middle aged couples alongside the typical Oasis crowd which I can't see Liam ever attracting, so I can't see him ever managing arenas. I think he's doing festivals maybe before his own gigs to get his following 1st before he does his own gigs. There is obsessed don't in my mind that Glastonbury will happen with a televised set to not only help sell Reading but also make people want to buy his own gigs who weren't at Glastonbury and don't want to attend a kids festival. 10 hours ago, plaskins said: If I'm honest, I can't see him only playing one UK festival this summer. I could be wrong, time will tell. I'd rather it was announced at some point if he was playing And he won't be, an exclusive is only ever one until another books them. No other publicist mentioned him being exclusive and Reading made sure not to put his only UK Fest appearance this year...they left it very open that at the time it was his only UK Fest show. I wouldn't be surprised if he didn't actually come with the bigger poster but was left until maybe a week before the time are released and just added. 10 hours ago, plaskins said: Noel went out with the ones he wrote, Liam could've doine the same.. but I'm outta time and songbird probably wouldn't have stacked up against the ones Noel was doing. Liam then did a few tracks from Oasis (Noel written) on the second tour. I think he may as well play 50% Oasis on this tour (aka what his brother does). At the festival gigs at least where nobody apart from hardcores will know his album. I can't see him Don't Look Back In Anger though, that was tongue in cheek.. He defo needs to chuck some crowd favorites in, Noels 1st album was decent enough tbh but people clearly went for Oasis and will do the same for Noel. Noel went through a phase of putting less Oasis stuff in but over the last tour he's upped it again to include some of what he did on the original tour as he probably knows him as solo is wearing a little things now, nothing he produced after his debut was as good by far! It doesn't really matter what he included what Noel wrote because he's never going to get sued over it, Noel will just make claim that he still cant gig without his songs but Liam singing those helped make them as big as they were. Liam is coming straight into a solo show at Reading with a sub set like Noel did at T and V, we can't care Glastonbury because even if he would have got the sub he still hasn't, but if Liam does take off then a couple of years down the line a Glasto sub might be there and I don't think he will reject it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supernintendo Chalmers Posted April 8, 2017 Report Share Posted April 8, 2017 There was a time where Liam could really sing, but he clearly hasn't looked after his voice. He spent the last years of Oasis sneering at the end of each line like Johnny Rotten. Such a shame, because if he got it together again, any of Listen Up, Be Here Now, Cast No Shadow, Hey Now, Fade In-Out, Let's All Make Believe would be great to hear on the tour. The last Oasis show I remember his voice being decent was at Finsbury Park in 2002 but 1995-era Liam's voice was fantastic. Where did it all go wrong...? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thewayiam Posted April 8, 2017 Report Share Posted April 8, 2017 5 minutes ago, SPTFRE said: There was a time where Liam could really sing, but he clearly hasn't looked after his voice. He spent the last years of Oasis sneering at the end of each line like Johnny Rotten. Such a shame, because if he got it together again, any of Listen Up, Be Here Now, Cast No Shadow, Hey Now, Fade In-Out, Let's All Make Believe would be great to hear on the tour. The last Oasis show I remember his voice being decent was at Finsbury Park in 2002 but 1995-era Liam's voice was fantastic. Where did it all go wrong...? I'm hoping he's got his voice together and ready to surprise people. I saw them on their last stadium tour and it was good but I don't think it was the best thing ever like some Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rubber Soldier Posted April 8, 2017 Report Share Posted April 8, 2017 His voice on the Beady Eye stuff sounded a million times better than the later Oasis records. He sometimes sounded like someone doing an impression of Liam Gallagher near the end. I think as long as he avoids falling into that trap again he can still sound great. I'd love to hear him knock out some of the tracks mentioned above. Columbia, Fade Away and Gas Panic especially. I'd add Headshrinker into the mix as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supernintendo Chalmers Posted April 8, 2017 Report Share Posted April 8, 2017 18 minutes ago, thewayiam said: I'm hoping he's got his voice together and ready to surprise people. I saw them on their last stadium tour and it was good but I don't think it was the best thing ever like some Yeah, that's my hope too. I saw them at Earl's Court in 1995 and he sounded amazing, at Knebworth a year later he basically pretended to be John Lennon (certainly on the first night anyway). Contrast that with the second night at Wembley in 2000, which was one of the worst live vocal performances I've heard from any act. Up there with matey from Angels and Airwaves. That bad. I've always thought that Liam bottled it in later years when the focus was on his voice. Like the MTV Unplugged show when he had "laryngitis" but was then spotted heckling Noel from the box, while smoking and drinking. I hope the voice is still in there, would be great if he surprised us all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaledonianGonzo Posted April 8, 2017 Report Share Posted April 8, 2017 Thing is, most rock vocalists who've managed to retain their pipes as the years have worn on have looked after them, taken singing lessons and worked with vocal coaches to warm up before shows. Can't envisage yer man doing scales in his dressing room before showtime. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
henry bear Posted April 8, 2017 Report Share Posted April 8, 2017 9 minutes ago, SPTFRE said: Contrast that with the second night at Wembley in 2000, which was one of the worst live vocal performances I've heard from any act. Up there with matey from Angels and Airwaves. That bad. Not helped, as I recall, by the fact he'd been on an all-night bender after the first gig, and was obviously still wasted come showtime. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thewayiam Posted April 8, 2017 Report Share Posted April 8, 2017 47 minutes ago, SPTFRE said: Yeah, that's my hope too. I saw them at Earl's Court in 1995 and he sounded amazing, at Knebworth a year later he basically pretended to be John Lennon (certainly on the first night anyway). Contrast that with the second night at Wembley in 2000, which was one of the worst live vocal performances I've heard from any act. Up there with matey from Angels and Airwaves. That bad. I've always thought that Liam bottled it in later years when the focus was on his voice. Like the MTV Unplugged show when he had "laryngitis" but was then spotted heckling Noel from the box, while smoking and drinking. I hope the voice is still in there, would be great if he surprised us all. They have thought they were the Beatles 2nd coming for years though. Mate went to see AVA at Leeds year back and to say he was disappointed was an understatement, I did tell him where they are shit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fatyeti24 Posted April 8, 2017 Report Share Posted April 8, 2017 32 minutes ago, Scruffylovemonster said: He's probably using his scales for something else! To symbolise the strength of support and opposition in a case brought before the courts? If I know Liam like I think I know him, that's exactly what he'll be doing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wolfamongwolves Posted April 8, 2017 Report Share Posted April 8, 2017 The man sounds like krusty the clown . nothing original about him. walks like someone else. stands like soneone else. dresses like everyone else. just liked a manufactured pop star. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Franco Baresi Posted April 9, 2017 Report Share Posted April 9, 2017 So are we sure he's gonna play at Glastonbury as well as Reading & Leeds guys?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt42 Posted April 9, 2017 Report Share Posted April 9, 2017 1 minute ago, Franco Baresi said: So are we sure he's gonna play at Glastonbury as well as Reading & Leeds guys?? TBC on the rumour page I won't be surprised if he plays unannounced again though Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GlastoEls Posted April 9, 2017 Report Share Posted April 9, 2017 1 hour ago, Franco Baresi said: So are we sure he's gonna play at Glastonbury as well as Reading & Leeds guys?? Believe there's a new piece of info that Neil received and so was upgraded from SR to TBC. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gnomicide Posted April 9, 2017 Report Share Posted April 9, 2017 When Beady Eye played, I was stood near a Liam Gallagher lookalike, dodgy haircut, round specs, simian stroll and everything. He earned bonus knob 'ed points when they played an Oasis song by screaming "YES!", downing his pint and lashing the not quite empty cup before singing every word, badly, arms akimbo. At least he enjoyed it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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