When will this shit end?

[Zoo Music Girl]

4 minutes ago, Ozanne said:

I’m pretty sure the rules state no more than 6 people inside together and no more than 2 households.

I think that's the guidance but the law is up to 30? Allowing for two households to be up to 30?

Not sure how that applies to weddings, funerals etc.

[Ozanne]

4 minutes ago, Zoo Music Girl said:

I think that's the guidance but the law is up to 30? Allowing for two households to be up to 30?

Not sure how that applies to weddings, funerals etc.

Yeah that might be it, I don’t need it to be law for me to keep to the guidelines.

 

Unless it changed recently to allow more.

[eFestivals]

5 minutes ago, Zoo Music Girl said:

I think that's the guidance but the law is up to 30?

yeah, I think that's it - over 30 is a criminal offence in all personal circumstances (there's different rules for businesses and organisations).

[Ozanne]

LOL

[steviewevie]

 

[JoeyT]

4 minutes ago, steviewevie said:

 

Makes the whole testing capacity thing an absolute farce if they are struggling at 175k tests yet telling everyone the capacity is 250k ish

[Fuzzy Afro]

37 minutes ago, Ozanne said:

I’m pretty sure the rules state no more than 6 people inside together and no more than 2 households.

That’s a guideline not a rule 

[Crazyfool01]

What would happen if we were in Australia and NZ right now ... I’m absolutely certain the response would be harder and faster ... 

Edited September 8, 2020 by crazyfool1

[squirrelarmy]

9 minutes ago, crazyfool1 said:

What would happen if we were in Australia and NZ right now ... I’m absolutely certain the response would be harder and faster ... 

Not to defend the Tories but NZ and Oz aren’t one of the biggest crossroads of international trade and business. 

[steviewevie]

1 minute ago, squirrelarmy said:

Not to defend the Tories but NZ and Oz aren’t one of the biggest crossroads of international trade and business. 

much lower population densities too...easier to isolate and lockdown etc.

[Ozanne]

22 minutes ago, Fuzzy Afro said:

That’s a guideline not a rule 

I treat them as the same. As I said I don’t need it to be law to carry out the guidelines. 

[Fuzzy Afro]

1 minute ago, Ozanne said:

I treat them as the same. As I said I don’t need it to be law to carry out the guidelines. 

It’s going to be a rule now 

[stuartbert two hats]

3 minutes ago, squirrelarmy said:

Not to defend the Tories but NZ and Oz aren’t one of the biggest crossroads of international trade and business. 

Agreed - they're endpoints, not hubs.

[Fuzzy Afro]

16 minutes ago, crazyfool1 said:

What would happen if we were in Australia and NZ right now ... I’m absolutely certain the response would be harder and faster ... 

Yeah because they are police states these days 

[steviewevie]

oh dear

 

[fatyeti24]

The Hard Rain continues to fall.

 

Stop sniggering.

[Ozanne]

25 minutes ago, Fuzzy Afro said:

It’s going to be a rule now 

Thanks?

 

I think people should’ve been following the guidelines all this time even if they weren’t technically rules.

[Fuzzy Afro]

3 minutes ago, Ozanne said:

Thanks?

 

I think people should’ve been following the guidelines all this time even if they weren’t technically rules.

And plenty of people haven’t, which is why it’s going to be a rule now. That’s the point. 

[efcfanwirral]

40 minutes ago, crazyfool1 said:

What would happen if we were in Australia and NZ right now ... I’m absolutely certain the response would be harder and faster ... 

I wouldn't wish their current restrictions on us personally - when governments get that crazy level of control over a population they don't usually give it back. Their levels of intervention at the moment for me are...a stretch for a virus like this. They must be a lot more confident of re-election there than our lot! 

That said, I would say it we are to ever get Aus/NZ style restrictions it'll be to coincide with Brexit - any and all protests are then "breaking restrictions" 

[philipsteak]

Bit of a worry when a bunch of intelligent, engaged people are using words like "might" "maybe" and "I think" when discussing the rules and/or guidelines

I mean I'm no clearer on them

[steviewevie]

5 minutes ago, philipsteak said:

Bit of a worry when a bunch of intelligent, engaged people are using words like "might" "maybe" and "I think" when discussing the rules and/or guidelines

I mean I'm no clearer on them

stay alert

[Fuzzy Afro]

I think I’m having a breakdown    

[parsonjack]

On 9/6/2020 at 5:42 PM, Zoo Music Girl said:

Yeah I don't think we can make comparisons to March really - as people have said we were testing hardly anyone then, so if numbers exceed the March numbers it definitely doesn't mean we are in a worse position than March. Also we have some treatments now that do seem to lessen severity of the disease and reduce deaths.

That said we definitely do have to be cautious and we don't know much at all about the long-term effects. 

@parsonjack has a handy little graph for showing ratio of tests to cases; hopefully he will update.

Sorry been away for a couple of days.....here's the graph of the ratio between positive tests/tests carried out.  The peak rate in late June was around 0.014 which equates to approx 1 positive case in 77 tests.  This dropped to a low of 0.0032 on 10 July which equated to 1 positive case in 312 tests.

Recent weeks have seen the ratio climbing gradually but as we now don't get testing figures until Thursday's the graph doesn't show data after 2 Sept, and is therefore yet to take account of the big rises in last couple of days.  By my reckoning though we will need a testing figure of 214,000 to stay under the June peak....and that would be some 5000 higher than the peak daily tests recorded so far.... 🤔

 

[steviewevie]

11 minutes ago, Fuzzy Afro said:

I think I’m having a breakdown    

hey...seriously? If struggling ring your GP, or samaritans or something. And know that things may be about to get a bit worse again, but then they will get better. 2021 will be a good year.

[stuartbert two hats]

7 minutes ago, parsonjack said:

Sorry been away for a couple of days.....here's the graph of the ratio between positive tests/tests carried out.  The peak rate in late June was around 0.014 which equates to approx 1 positive case in 77 tests.  This dropped to a low of 0.0032 on 10 July which equated to 1 positive case in 312 tests.

Recent weeks have seen the ratio climbing gradually but as we now don't get testing figures until Thursday's the graph doesn't show data after 2 Sept, and is therefore yet to take account of the big rises in last couple of days.  By my reckoning though we will need a testing figure of 214,000 to stay under the June peak....and that would be some 5000 higher than the peak daily tests recorded so far.... 🤔

 

Hmm.  Whichever way you cut it, genuine infection seems to be on the up.