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34 minutes ago, JoBalls said:

Correct!! I’ve genuinely never heard of any of the others. 

I don’t really understand how The Cure were regarded in their heyday? Everyone I speak to seems to have the same sort of response “they were ok” or “they had a couple of good songs”, I’ve never met someone who said they really liked them, or who had all their albums, or who had been to see them live or anything. 

Seen them loads and got most of the album's.  Give some a listen it really is quality stuff and has stood test of time.  But like everything it's all about opinions .I would sooner see the cure than either of other 2 headliners.

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21 minutes ago, incident said:

Now, regardless of all that. Pictures Of You on the Pyramid is going to be seriously fucking special isn't it?

It wasn't in 1995 so don't bet your ticket money on it. They felt totally out of place back then and I speak as someone who saw them on The Prayer Tour in '89 and loved it. I'm not surprised Michael gave them the thumbs down afterwards.

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22 minutes ago, Brave Sir Robin said:

Do you know something we don't?

Wishful thinking I’m afraid BSR...although she seems to playing every other British festival this year, so I’m more than hopeful she’ll be on the farm this year

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59 minutes ago, RarerThanDandyB said:

How anyone can say they have two songs is laughable. The Cure have tune after tune and will smash it. Cannot wait for them.

I feel the same. It maybe not be the exciting band for many but they got a load of great songs to play all night 

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9 minutes ago, CJTM said:

I wouldn't be surprised if they are back in the studio after SA shows to churn out another album next year, which leaves them set up to play 2020 (the supposed big one).

This is the general consensus. A short tour for this album definitely infers that something is somewhat coming.

I reckon taking the summer off and coming back with a more commercial friendly album would do them good.

Also TBH&C is a weird one. I didn’t mind it at first, liked it a little while after the release but now I find it unlistenable. I think i’m in the boat now that it is just a bad album lol. Understandably ambitious but poorly executed.

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14 minutes ago, utwothefly said:

I feel the same. It maybe not be the exciting band for many but they got a load of great songs to play all night 

The problems is that unlike some bands (e.g. Radiohead), my taste in Cure songs is not the same as theirs. They seem to like the dirge like, guitar heavy songs.  Whereas I generally prefer their pop records, with special exceptions for A Forest and From The Edge Of The Deep Green Sea.

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Just to throw my hat in, I'm of the opinion that The Cure only have two songs- Friday I'm In Love and Boys Don't Cry (the latter of which I don't think I would know if it weren't for The Inbetweeners)

To a fan of a band, they can have so many hits. To an outsider, a band can have 2.
Personally, I really like The Killers. I'd reel off Mr Brightside, When You Were Young, Human, Spaceman, All These Things That I've Done, The Man, Runaways, Somebody Told Me, Smile Like You Mean It, Read My Mind, Bones, For Reasons Unknown.
The chances are, average Joe is going to say "I know 3 of them."

All a matter of perspective.

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1 minute ago, K2SO said:

Just to throw my hat in, I'm of the opinion that The Cure only have two songs- Friday I'm In Love and Boys Don't Cry (the latter of which I don't think I would know if it weren't for The Inbetweeners)

To a fan of a band, they can have so many hits. To an outsider, a band can have 2.
Personally, I really like The Killers. I'd reel off Mr Brightside, When You Were Young, Human, Spaceman, All These Things That I've Done, The Man, Runaways, Somebody Told Me, Smile Like You Mean It, Read My Mind, Bones, For Reasons Unknown.
The chances are, average Joe is going to say "I know 3 of them."

All a matter of perspective.

Very true. From that list it's Mr Brightside, Human and Somebody Told Me.

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I always assumed Boys Don't Cry was one of those songs absoutely everyone had heard a million times. It looks like I was wrong.

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Back at The Cure on Other Stage, we've hit rock bottom. Just give us some form of announcement this week, anything...

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AM have toured TBHC in the UK, U.S, Europe - headlined festivals across the UK and Europe, albeit only 1 festival (I think) in the UK. Took a mini break from October/November to late February. Then went to play some dates in Australia and now South America, which apparently is the end of the 'Tranquility era'... *braces for yay TBHC is shite comments*

They are keen to get back to the studio. My opinion is they'll drop a few stand alone singles early next year and headline 2020. It's a case of when, not if, they headline Glastonbury again

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12 minutes ago, Calvin Klein said:

I always assumed Boys Don't Cry was one of those songs absoutely everyone had heard a million times. It looks like I was wrong.

For those of you who don't know it, can you give this a quick listen and confirm you don't recognize it at all? It's not really much like their later stuff.

 

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If the Cure do a genuine greatest hits set then they’ll be amazing. If they are going to do their usual mix of well and lesser known songs then personally I’ll pass and I think many may leave... though others will love it. Probably Not unlike Radiohead in 2017, I just happen to be a Radiohead fan and someone who doesn’t mind The Cure.

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1 hour ago, The Red Telephone said:

I would say there’s more an issue that the Killers are headlining in 2019 than The Cure.

Not that there should be an issue.

Orbital, Janelle Monae, The Chemical Brothers, Lauryn Hill and The Wu-Tang-Clan are all headlining stages this year. 

 

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I’d say it’s more an issue they’ve just pretty much recycled the acts from 2017 and put them on the pyramid! How has no one in booking had this mentioned to them 😂😂

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1 hour ago, incident said:

While I want to agree with you, because I think they are playing the Pyramid, deservedly so, and that they'll smash it, unfortunately the above is largely bollocks.

The facts are that they are playing second from top at Werchter, and that they are playing on the 2nd stage at Southside and Hurricane. By any reasonable definition that means they're not headlining those festivals. They might be given nearly as prominent billing, they might be given a longer set than many other acts, but ultimately it means either that they're playing before dark (Werchter), or playing on a smaller stage (Southside/Hurricane).

Now, regardless of all that. Pictures Of You on the Pyramid is going to be seriously fucking special isn't it?

They are headlining those festivals as they are one of the headline names. If you think that "headline" just means "plays last on the biggest stage" then Disclosure headlined above Paul McCartney at Rock Werchter. The Hurricane/Southside thing is because them and Foos both need a day in between shows and it's the only way, but they're still both headline names. Even in the UK they've coheadlined festivals but were still and will now always be a headliner.

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And Lovecats as well? At the very least I’d imagine a lot of people would recognise it?

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Just now, CaledonianGonzo said:

Time to break out this banger again

 

That Park Stage gig is still the loudest I’ve heard.

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2 minutes ago, Andeeroo said:

I’ve always thought that Just Like Heaven was a track that everybody knew too?

Yeah I'm quite baffled by people saying they only have a couple of well known songs. I already knew Friday I'm In Love, Inbetween Days, Boy's Don't Cry, Just Like Heaven and Close to Me before I properly started listening to them, although at least a couple of those are from growing up with the Inbetweeners soundtrack. 

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20 minutes ago, dentalplan said:

They are headlining those festivals as they are one of the headline names. If you think that "headline" just means "plays last on the biggest stage" then Disclosure headlined above Paul McCartney at Rock Werchter. The Hurricane/Southside thing is because them and Foos both need a day in between shows and it's the only way, but they're still both headline names. Even in the UK they've coheadlined festivals but were still and will now always be a headliner.

Nah. A dance act on after the headliner is different. For both of these fests there are 2 rock bands at the top of the bill and the Cure are playing second fiddle, so not the headliners. Not that it matters much, Glasto doesn’t need or always have the “biggest” headliners.

4 minutes ago, Andeeroo said:

That Park Stage gig is still the loudest I’ve heard.

It was immense, would love to see them back.

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18 minutes ago, dentalplan said:

They are headlining those festivals as they are one of the headline names. If you think that "headline" just means "plays last on the biggest stage" then Disclosure headlined above Paul McCartney at Rock Werchter. The Hurricane/Southside thing is because them and Foos both need a day in between shows and it's the only way, but they're still both headline names. Even in the UK they've coheadlined festivals but were still and will now always be a headliner.

Sorry, but that just doesn't hold up.

If Glastonbury announced an act as a headliner and then scheduled them on the Other Stage, everyone would rightly call bullshit. Same if they gave them an extended Pyramid slot in the daylight. Reading/Leeds have announced "coheadliners" most of the past few years but I don't think many people are actually buying it as such.

Regarding the Disclosure/McCartney thing - I did avoid saying "plays last", because that's not the thing that matters. I don't think many people consider the act starting at 1am to be the main act of the day..

Ultimately, I love The Cure. I'm more excited for them than I have been for any Pyramid headliner in about 5 years. But trying to justify a lower than headline slot elsewhere through some twisted "well they're a headliner really" logic just comes across as desperation to justify them here. And they don't need justifying.

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1 minute ago, incident said:

Sorry, but that just doesn't hold up.

If Glastonbury announced an act as a headliner and then scheduled them on the Other Stage, everyone would rightly call bullshit. Same if they gave them an extended Pyramid slot in the daylight. Reading/Leeds have announced "coheadliners" most of the past few years but I don't think many people are actually buying it as such.

Regarding the Disclosure/McCartney thing - I did avoid saying "plays last", because that's not the thing that matters. I don't think many people consider the act starting at 1am to be the main act of the day..

Ultimately, I love The Cure. I'm more excited for them than I have been for any Pyramid headliner in about 5 years. But trying to justify a lower than headline slot elsewhere through some twisted "well they're a headliner really" logic just comes across as desperation to justify them here. And they don't need justifying.

That's because those festivals are in Britain and British people seem to have more difficulty getting their head around a separation between an act playing last and an act headlining. Like it happens all the time in Europe and people there don't whinge about how they're being robbed of a 'proper headliner', there's just a less archaic way of thinking about headliners there. It's a marketing term really, whoever they want to promote as the top act of the day is the headliner, they can play wherever.

I think 'Pyramid headliners' is too much of a thing for Glastonbury to do it but festivals in the UK absolutely should adopt a two-stage system where a headliner can play either and not lose their headline status. I don't think we're far from the "it's become like a fourth headline slot" teatime act become an actual fourth headline slot that headliners play.

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56 minutes ago, DJL said:

If the Cure do a genuine greatest hits set then they’ll be amazing. If they are going to do their usual mix of well and lesser known songs then personally I’ll pass and I think many may leave... though others will love it. Probably Not unlike Radiohead in 2017, I just happen to be a Radiohead fan and someone who doesn’t mind The Cure.

Yes, been listening to a cure greatest hits compilation in the car recently. Loads of decent songs that would suit a pyramid audience. As long as they stick to them it would be as you say amazing.

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