Oasis

[charlierc]

1 minute ago, MEGABOWL said:

Now happening in Spanish football

Aye I saw that.

 

Football's hunt for finding ever greater revenues means it wouldn't be a surprise. Bad enough seemingly all Premier League clubs now charge a membership fee to be able to even get tickets.

[Ayrshire Chris]

Buying Oasis tickets in 1996 for their gig on the banks of Loch Lomond.

no dynamic pricing, maybe just a bit of queue jumping😉😊

[henry bear]

2 hours ago, pink_triangle said:

Thats why I struggle to criticise musicians trying to maximise income when others in different industries get a free pass.

 

What about others in the same industry that are really struggling to earn a living wage because everyone's spent their gig money to see one band

[pink_triangle]

4 minutes ago, henry bear said:

 

What about others in the same industry that are really struggling to earn a living wage because everyone's spent their gig money to see one band

I just don’t believe that many people have this £150-300 gig budget per year and once used up that’s it. I imagine you will have some who wouldn’t have gone to any gigs if it wasn’t for oasis and most who do will carry on as they would anyway.

[plaskins]

I dunno. It's a lot of money but I'll still go to tours of other bands I like if they are out and about and a couple of festivals hopefully. Bank balance doesn't look to healthy now, admittedly 😒

[Long Season]

26 minutes ago, pink_triangle said:

I just don’t believe that many people have this £150-300 gig budget per year and once used up that’s it. I imagine you will have some who wouldn’t have gone to any gigs if it wasn’t for oasis and most who do will carry on as they would anyway.

 

I duno, I used to go to upwards of 50+ gigs a year at one point but now have to really ration them out as arena gigs have gone from £50 to £100+ and smaller gigs hit close to £50 too often enough. There's only so much money you earn a year. With these hyper inflated prices, you could still see a plethora of bands for the price of a dynamically ticketed Oasis gig, and if I were to drop £350 on Oasis, I don't think the four bands playing the Ritz or Albert Hall would get much of a look in on the rest of my wage

[henry bear]

If you're on a low income and you just spaffed £800+ for two tickets (probably way more than you expected to pay, or were initially willing to, but after spending hours on TM FOMO kicks in big time), something would have to give, whether it's food, bills, other entertainment, holidays etc. I expect some people have ended up in real debt they can't afford because of Dynamic Pricing

[09matthewsw]

US tour promo has now started, think there could be some UK tickets back in the pot once the dates start getting announced. A good time to get the twickets app and set an alert for the dates you need.

 

think this rules out more UK dates for good now as well 

[Suprefan]

12 hours ago, gfa said:

For the general public maybe this is the case - but i think we all on here know £150 is already taking the piss let alone the £200 seats and vip packages

 

Taylor Swifts show was less and is 3 hours - and she's a bigger act even (albeit without the reunion hype / scarcity factor) whereas Oasis will play for what, 90 minutes

 

 

she had to back off because of the mess created in the first round of onsales. It was going to be there from the get go. Even vip packages lasted longer during the euro sales cause of the high cost. They changed them to regular tickets and they were gone.  Taylors Rep Tour and Lover Fest shows had platinum and dynamic. Girls not a saint.

 

but the thing is, its ruined a lot now because she did a 3 hour show and now apparently everyone has to do the same and  at a fair cost or they got ripped off. Thats a disservice to all other artists. f**k that.   And im sorry, itll never compare to watching Prince perform for 3 hours for $25 because he wanted everyone to be able to see his concerts. He didnt care about the money. 

[efcfanwirral]

12 minutes ago, Suprefan said:

she had to back off because of the mess created in the first round of onsales. It was going to be there from the get go. Even vip packages lasted longer during the euro sales cause of the high cost. They changed them to regular tickets and they were gone.  Taylors Rep Tour and Lover Fest shows had platinum and dynamic. Girls not a saint.

 

but the thing is, its ruined a lot now because she did a 3 hour show and now apparently everyone has to do the same and  at a fair cost or they got ripped off. Thats a disservice to all other artists. f**k that.   And im sorry, itll never compare to watching Prince perform for 3 hours for $25 because he wanted everyone to be able to see his concerts. He didnt care about the money. 

I think its fair to say Oasis couldn't do close to 3 hours with Liam maintaining any kind of singing voice 

[MrZigster]

2 hours ago, efcfanwirral said:

I think its fair to say Oasis couldn't do close to 3 hours with Liam maintaining any kind of singing voice 

That is a very good point.

[MilkyJoe]

8 hours ago, pink_triangle said:

The change likely to come from this is Ticketmaster will have to put some disclaimer as part of the queue, I suppose that’s progress in terms of transparency, whether it makes any real difference I have my doubts. I suspect such a disclaimer would not have stopped many queuing and even those who will claim it would have stopped them, I suspect for many in reality it wouldn’t.

 

If people think this will end dynamic pricing I think they will be disappointed. The only thing that ends it is people refusing to pay and not enough are willing to make that kind of stand.

More transparency around dynamic pricing would seem to be the most likely outcome here. I can’t see the end of it to be honest due to the fact it’s everywhere. I guess It would actually be pretty simple to say that it is unlawful to sell a ticket at more than face value though then it would be entirely up to the promoter/band to price accordingly.

[Hirstys 12th Pint]

6 hours ago, efcfanwirral said:

I think its fair to say Oasis couldn't do close to 3 hours 30 minutes with Liam maintaining any kind of singing voice 

 

Corrected for you 😄

[gfa]

17 hours ago, Johndenis said:

@pink_triangle what are "surge tickets"?  My instinct is that there are too many dates and, come the gigs next year, there will be loads of spares going with folk unable to overcome agoraphobia, having to actually go out and do something, general remorse at having spent hundreds of pounds etc. 

 

As an aside, I saw someone say they will do 90 mins vs Taylor's 3?  I've no idea what their stamina was like pre-break up but surely they will do 2 and a half hours to 3? 

I said this as a guess

 

Very few acts do over 2 hours

 

LG and Noel have been doing around 90 minutes on their tours in recent years, i'd expect 105 mins at the absolute most

[reflekting]

The Oasis brand is continuing to take a big hit on this reunion as the story is sticking around over social media and the paper for several days. People are now rightfully pointing the finger at the band, particularly the tweet where Liam called Noel out for greed on his ticket prices back in 2017. 

They will say they don't care, Noel probably doesn't, but Liam loves to be loved and he will hate seeing all the comments slating him over the past weekend on social media. 

[foolee]

3 minutes ago, reflekting said:

The Oasis brand is continuing to take a big hit on this reunion as the story is sticking around over social media and the paper for several days. People are now rightfully pointing the finger at the band, particularly the tweet where Liam called Noel out for greed on his ticket prices back in 2017. 

They will say they don't care, Noel probably doesn't, but Liam loves to be loved and he will hate seeing all the comments slating him over the past weekend on social media. 

Well, if they do care they could just refund everyone who has bought a platinum or in demand ticket and stop the dynamic pricing. Robert Smith of The Cure did this. Good to see the story is sticking around because righty so Ticketmaster/promoters/bands that agree to dynamic pricing will ruin/change the industry and not for the better, it needs to be made illegal. 

[pink_triangle]

4 minutes ago, reflekting said:

The Oasis brand is continuing to take a big hit on this reunion as the story is sticking around over social media and the paper for several days. People are now rightfully pointing the finger at the band, particularly the tweet where Liam called Noel out for greed on his ticket prices back in 2017. 

They will say they don't care, Noel probably doesn't, but Liam loves to be loved and he will hate seeing all the comments slating him over the past weekend on social media. 

I suspect Liam also loves the money as well, he maybe hides it better. When it comes to social media what action are people willing to take to make their point. At an extreme level they could coordinate a mass boycott of the gigs similar to what some football fans have done in the past. At a less extreme end they could refuse to stream Oasis or refuse to buy merchandise if they attend.

 

What most will do is absolutely nothing and that’s why things don’t change. Venting on social media is easy and gets likes and reposts, real protest is more challenging.

 

[MilkyJoe]

6 minutes ago, foolee said:

Well, if they do care they could just refund everyone who has bought a platinum or in demand ticket and stop the dynamic pricing. Robert Smith of The Cure did this. Good to see the story is sticking around because righty so Ticketmaster/promoters/bands that agree to dynamic pricing will ruin/change the industry and not for the better, it needs to be made illegal. 

The issue is that it would be virtually impossible to outlaw dynamic pricing when it has been routinely used everywhere for years. As has been mentioned, flights, Holidays, hotel rooms, all use dynamic pricing. It would be much easier just to outlaw culture event tickets being sold for above the face value printed on the ticket and even that comes with inherent problems being that so many ticketed events are digital these days and it would be simple just to issue a ticket with the price you eventually paid on it.

Edited September 3, 2024 by MilkyJoe

[pink_triangle]

7 minutes ago, MilkyJoe said:

The issue is that it would be virtually impossible to outlaw dynamic pricing when it has been routinely used everywhere for years. As has been mentioned, flights, Holidays, hotel rooms, all use dynamic pricing. 

Not only that but many people like the use of dynamic pricing in saving them money in these circumstances. For example I got a good deal out of season (when demand is low) at a B&B in York. That is effectively subsidised by those who pay full whack when the races are on.

 

Get rid of dynamic prices in these respect and the consequence is those who go to the B&B outside the races pay more and/or the B&B goes out of business.

 

 

[justanotheronethen]

Anyone else here still in the TM queue? I think I might have merged with the one for B*Witched tickets

[gfa]

25 minutes ago, reflekting said:

The Oasis brand is continuing to take a big hit on this reunion as the story is sticking around over social media and the paper for several days. People are now rightfully pointing the finger at the band, particularly the tweet where Liam called Noel out for greed on his ticket prices back in 2017. 

They will say they don't care, Noel probably doesn't, but Liam loves to be loved and he will hate seeing all the comments slating him over the past weekend on social media. 

everyone will have forget by next summer

 

they couldn't give less of a sh*t - their silence tells that

[pink_triangle]

2 minutes ago, justanotheronethen said:

Anyone else here still in the TM queue? I think I might have merged with the one for B*Witched tickets

If you don’t get oasis tickets you can just take the approach c’est la vie.

[Alan_C]

What's with Seetickets not even bringing up the screen with all of the gigs? If you search Oasis you get a message saying all tickets are sold out. 

[GoonerRob]

When do you think they will flip it and go full evil?

Start tickets at £10k, sell them until theres no more sales, then drop the price to £9,500. Continue until sell out.

This way they really get to extract maximum money from everyone and keep all the poors out.

[paulshane]

41 minutes ago, GoonerRob said:

When do you think they will flip it and go full evil?

Start tickets at £10k, sell them until theres no more sales, then drop the price to £9,500. Continue until sell out.

This way they really get to extract maximum money from everyone and keep all the poors out.

 

 

not evil enough.

 

start tickets at £10k, but drop the price by a tenner every minute, BUT when a ticket is bought, the price goes back to £10k

 

how long can you hold out?