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    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-scotland-politics-45200674 The response from Aaron Bastani who i have learned is one of the new breed of social media icons. What does he know he got 4 million less votes than Corbyn. With analysis like that I have little faith in where politics is going!
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    The vast majority of people on here have no interest in traingate or Eaglegate either.
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    The idea about being entrenched behind a leader makes little sense to me, it's all a little culty. I may like a labour leader but would never assume that someone couldn't do the job better. I honestly think traingate and Eaglegate are less important than you think, I rarely hear anyone mention either.
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    So your alternative is that labour supporters (many not members) should just support him regardless?
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    No, the response to claims about anti Semitism in labour with the response "torys are worse" started before the Boris incident. As I said if the initital response is to say the other side is worse, how will it ever get sorted out?
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    Make no mistake I have higher expectations from labour then I do for the torys. The islamaphobia discussion has defintely increased since the anti semitisim accusations. Thats not to say that talk about Islamaphobia is a bad thing, but I do get the impression that many labour supporters are so focused on that line of attack, that they are not concentrating on the problems within labour. The problem of anti-semitism can only be resolved if labour supporters recognize it and you still get the impression that many dont. It also needs the labour leader to identify the problem, while his words suggest he may, his actions leave you wondering if he thinks the same as many of his supporters. Some in Israel act bad anothers act good, some with sympathies to Palestine act bad and some good. Trying to frame this as good v bad as many on the left are trying to do, is both simplistic and wrong.
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    Serious question do you have any concerns (as I do) that if the Corbynite stock response to every accusation of ant semitism is "what about the torys" then the problem of anti semitism doesnt end up getting sorted. Also are we in any danger of the young generation of labour voters growing up thinking Palestine = good, Israel = evil when we both know reality is more complex.
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    Well the leader of the opposition has relatively little say about foreign policy, so its not a particularly fair compoarison. However I dont think its fair to judge Blair as good or bad. I know in the "twitter generation" analysis is not encouraged, but I think its perfectly fine to think a PM did a combination of good and bad.
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    Using Zahidf logic if Ed had that baggage the media would have ignored it, because Corbyn criticism is specific to Corbyn.
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    So what's your (I mean the person you copied and pasted from) point? That Corbyn is one of labour great leaders?
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    The media always treat the labour leader unfairly ! The main reason why Ed got a less rough ride was because he did less stupid things. Ed didn't make choices which would hand the media ammunition without any obvious political gain. Corbyn supporters think there is a big media conspiracy against him and so do Trump. Why assume that only the one you like is correct?
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    Well the labour leader always gets a tough ride from the right media, ask Ed Milliband. This phenomenon isn’t new for Corbyn (as his followers try to claim) and will continue for his successor. Knowing that, a clever leaders doesn’t hand the media open goals. It wasn’t the right media who decided not to accept the anti semitism definition, it wasn’t the media that has stopped him condemning friends and allies. If you believe everything is a media conspiracy, you are no different to supporters of a certain high profile world leader across the Atlantic.
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    It bothers me because every minute talking about anti semitism or Israel/Palestine is a minute not talking about the issues that matter to most voters, that does in my view cost votes.
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    About which aspect? The article agrees with what I said earlier that he is more interested in foreign policy than the domestic agenda. Zahidf says he talks with more empathy about health and education than most politicians. I think he is talking crap, Corbyn has shown little interest in these areas most of his politics career. I agree with the article that most of the public don't care about foreign policy. I think many will see Corbyn prioritizing the wrong areas. Venezuela probably won't hurt labour, but that's not my point. Corbynites suggest he is leading a crusade for the oppressed, the reality is he is pretty selective which oppressed deserve his support. If your oppressed by lefties, your probably out of luck
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    Does he champion the underdog in Venezuela or the establishment?
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    If he supported the cause of the underdogs he would be willing to take pragmatic decisions which would make labour more likely to be elected. The only way to help the underdog is a labour government with a decent majority. Corbyn cares more about the adulation of middle class lefties than the plight of the underdog.
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    He didn't spend a huge amount of time talking about health and education before being labour leader. Even talking about it now you can tell these are not issues that he is passionate about in the same way as Palestine or nuclear weapons. I don't think he has any more empathy on these subjects than most, I would maintain that the evil tory Blair was more interested in both health and education He is however selective about which oppressed people he does care about, normally depending on the regime who support (or are in conflict) these people. He certainly doesn't give as much of a shit about oppressed people in Venezuela. For the record I don't think caring about Palestinians is a bad thing, however its not the main priority for the majority of the electorate. If you give the impression that you are more interested in middle east politics then health and education in the UK there could be an electoral cost, particularly if like Corbyn you are not willing to show any pragmatism on the subject.
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    RIP Jim neidhart. I wasn't watching when he was at his peak, but I loved the new hart foundation angle in 1997.
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    Are your views welcomed in momentum,or is dissent still strongly discouraged? My hope is one day all these young momentum voters will stop being told what to think by the middle class lefties who hold all the power in momentum and take control themselves.
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    If the country sees a leader who prioritize lefty niche issues over bread and butter issues eg health and education, the left will suffer.
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    To me this is the main concern there are steps he could take and he refuses to take them. If he has the same attitude as pm (probably with a small majority) how will he get anything done?
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    Look at his clear passion he has for Palestine victims of conflict, it's clear he doesnt show that for British or American casualties.
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    Agreed I don't understand people condemning it on one side, while applauding it on the other.
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    The reality is he doesn't care. He knows his followers will defend him regardless, there is no incentive to change.
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    To me they are the same. They follow blindly and refuse to accept any criticism. They tolerate racism rather than challenge their leader and any accusations are always followed by "but the other side do.." They both also think there is a big media conspiracy against their man. I think this tribal politics is very damaging and hope that we move away from it.
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