When will this shit end?

[zahidf]

2 minutes ago, Leyrulion said:

What would you speed up and when?

 

Personally I don't think 14 weeks is all that long to wait, especially given the June deadline is relatively small in the amount of 'stuff' that starts to open so it's really only 9 weeks. 

But open to hearing how people here would open up faster and when?

 

I'd say group of six outdoors now.

In April, open up museums and indoor hospitality with social distancing. Let people meet up indoors then and household limited to 2 households.

May then stays the same for big outdoor stuff and theatre/gigs e.t.c. 

 

Social distancing in the bin by Jumne

Edited March 14, 2021 by zahidf

[eFestivals]

7 minutes ago, efcfanwirral said:

Without much covid and flu it'll be fine now but we get these "NHS nearly at capacity" headlines each year with just the flu. I hope they are Tory paper exaggeration

They're definitely busy. And a bit slack with some of the anti covid studf

[stuartbert two hats]

1 minute ago, Leyrulion said:

What would you speed up and when?

 

Personally I don't think 14 weeks is all that long to wait, especially given the June deadline is relatively small in the amount of 'stuff' that starts to open so it's really only 9 weeks. 

But open to hearing how people here would open up faster and when?

 

https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/covid-19-response-spring-2021/covid-19-response-spring-2021-summary

 

The following section:

"As part of Step 3, no earlier than 17 May, the government will look to continue easing limits on seeing friends and family wherever possible, allowing people to decide on the appropriate level of risk for their circumstances.

 

This means that most legal restrictions on meeting others outdoors will be lifted - although gatherings of over 30 people will remain illegal."

I would move to either 12th April. Or even 29th March if there is no rise in prevalence of the virus caused by the schools. I would say "no rise in cases", but given the large increase in testing, it seems likely that case numbers will rise slightly, even if R is still below 1.

[aj6658]

1 minute ago, Leyrulion said:

What would you speed up and when?

 

Personally I don't think 14 weeks is all that long to wait, especially given the June deadline is relatively small in the amount of 'stuff' that starts to open so it's really only 9 weeks. 

But open to hearing how people here would open up faster and when?

 

14 weeks is a long time. its 25% of the year! 

June release while limited about of "stuff" opening it will be the biggest change . Its going to see as many friends as you want in the pub. Getting drunk and going to a club. Walking into a store without a mask. Just being able to walk not be conscious of giving 2m to people. Its spontaneity.Its normality. Cant underestimate the value of that.

If this keeps trending as it now, we should see deaths and hospitalisations plummet by end of April as the weather will turn and there will be a massive vaccination uptick. I wouldn't be surprised if hospitalisations and deaths are < 10 a day then. Personally I think we should make stage 3 (May 17th)  the last stage. All restrictions lifted at that point 

[Ryan1984]

 

[Crazyfool01]

Been watching the protests this afternoon and it’s much better policed at the moment .. the highest police numbers are a ring around the Churchill statue and a line in front of downing st ... hopefully that’s all that’s needed ... although they were chanting about storming Scotland Yard a few mins ago ... 

[eFestivals]

9 minutes ago, Ryan1984 said:

 

A nurse left the wardto get vaccinated in the hospital the other day but was back quickly as they'd run out of vaccine.

[steviewevie]

42 minutes ago, zahidf said:

looks grim

[zahidf]

 

[Leyrulion]

40 minutes ago, aj6658 said:

14 weeks is a long time. its 25% of the year! 

June release while limited about of "stuff" opening it will be the biggest change . Its going to see as many friends as you want in the pub. Getting drunk and going to a club. Walking into a store without a mask. Just being able to walk not be conscious of giving 2m to people. Its spontaneity.Its normality. Cant underestimate the value of that.

If this keeps trending as it now, we should see deaths and hospitalisations plummet by end of April as the weather will turn and there will be a massive vaccination uptick. I wouldn't be surprised if hospitalisations and deaths are < 10 a day then. Personally I think we should make stage 3 (May 17th)  the last stage. All restrictions lifted at that point 

14 weeks isn't that long, 8 weeks ago we had over 1200 deaths a day.

I actually sort of agree, I think the may/June stages might end up merging. 

The cynic in me says that it'lll be announced before the local elections, so probably around the April relaxation.

Edited March 14, 2021 by Leyrulion

[JoeyT]

Well the “hospitals are close to capacity” brigade will have to look elsewhere from now on...

 

[Guest]

6 minutes ago, Leyrulion said:

14 weeks isn't that long, 8 weeks ago we had over 1200 deaths a day.

I actually sort of agree, I think the may/June stages might end up merging. 

The cynic in me says that it'lll be announced before the local elections, so probably around the April relaxation.

I can't see the last 2 steps merging, there's too much going on in the May step. They are trialling several thousands fans back in stadiums, gigs and events then they'll use the data from that to inform the next steps. I don't think they would want to go from no mass gatherings, straight back to full mass gatherings again. 

[stuartbert two hats]

9 minutes ago, JoeyT said:

Well the “hospitals are close to capacity” brigade will have to look elsewhere from now on...

 

To be fair, that doesn't say anything about occupancy, just admissions. I'm sure it is going down, but that data doesn't say so - or by how much.

[efcfanwirral]

6 minutes ago, Ozanne said:

I can't see the last 2 steps merging, there's too much going on in the May step. They are trialling several thousands fans back in stadiums, gigs and events then they'll use the data from that to inform the next steps. I don't think they would want to go from no mass gatherings, straight back to full mass gatherings again. 

I'm still not convinced that these trials will lead to full capacity a month later either. Just doesn't sound realistic

[Crazyfool01]

New Scotland Yard now ... reckon it might kick off here ... 

[efcfanwirral]

1 minute ago, crazyfool1 said:

New Scotland Yard now ... reckon it might kick off here ... 

And if it does its the perfect excuse to vote through those measures. For a good cause but they'll play right into their hands 

[Crazyfool01]

Just now, efcfanwirral said:

And if it does its the perfect excuse to vote through those measures. For a good cause but they'll play right into their hands 

Yeah that’s true ... no signs of any issues so far ... fingers crossed 🤞 

[zahidf]

6 minutes ago, crazyfool1 said:

New Scotland Yard now ... reckon it might kick off here ... 

Priorities

 

[Crazyfool01]

1 minute ago, zahidf said:

Priorities

 

Yep that was on my post on last page ... highest number of police protecting the statue ... that photo was b4 the reinforcements arrived 

[JoeyT]

My local authority added 2 cases of COVID today and now has 21 cases per 100k of population.

Data not dates.

[Crazyfool01]

13 minutes ago, JoeyT said:

My local authority added 2 cases of COVID today and now has 21 cases per 100k of population.

Data not dates.

our rates have cases per 100,000 have doubled in 3 days .... we are now at 24 per 100,000 whilst not massive it shows that cases can jump very quickly .... and thats whilst we are still in lockdown ... yep some of that will be kids back at School but I understand why a cautious approach is happening ... 

[efcfanwirral]

 

[Leyrulion]

39 minutes ago, JoeyT said:

My local authority added 2 cases of COVID today and now has 21 cases per 100k of population.

Data not dates.

You can't cherry pick your data so it supports your argument. 

The government plan includes looking at more then just the one data point that is cases per 100k. 

Which you'll be greatful for if cases start increasing but hospitalisations don't.

[BobWillis2]

1 hour ago, zahidf said:

Priorities

 

So the far left have hijacked another cause, wonderful, I feel sorry for the poor woman’s family who most definitely didn’t want this. 

[xxialac]

3 minutes ago, BobWillis2 said:

So the far left have hijacked another cause, wonderful, I feel sorry for the poor woman’s family who most definitely didn’t want this. 

Huh?

What exactly have the far left done here towards a dead figure from the past - or to be more accurate to a bit of stone representing him?

Oh, that's right, in both cases nothing.