When will this shit end?

[Fuzzy Afro]

Just now, MEGABOWL said:

I can’t find it now but I actually think that’s true. I also don’t think NHS capacity is particularly great either, which is why Sturgeon has jumped today.

It’s absolutely true. Life expectancy in some areas of Glasgow is on par with Baghdad. 

[steviewevie]

 

[ace56blaa]

Yeah again Keir Starmer does come across as weak opposition, especially when there is no PMQs. Because he is always great at PMQs. 

But now I just find myself wondering, why is Labour almost as silent as the Tories they are opposing. This situation could have been a prime moment to increase labour messaging, Show the public exactly how the tories have got this wrong. 

But it's almost as if if it can't be done the fair formal way. Keir is scared to criticize the government. I think that is in part due to Boris Johnson's constant nicknames and terrible pmq comebacks, I think Keir thinks that the way to win the public opinion is to try and act on tiptoes around certain issues so that boris johnson cant create a smear campaign. 

But the problem is Boris Johnson, will smear Keir Starmer no matter what, even if he resorts to lying or inaccurate nicknames like "Captain Hindsight" Cause thats what Tories do, they play dirty. But labour needs to not try and bend to their rules which Keir seems to be doing in an attempt to win Tory voters. 

The thing is a lot of Tory voters would probably prefer someone taking the government to task at every corner not just at PMQs as most dont watch that. 

I think Keir is okay, but he is so seethrough and often comes across as really fake. Like he is leagues better than Boris Johnson, but that doesn't mean he is a good leader. 

This could all change but right now, especially wihtout parliament Labour just look a bit quiet

[steviewevie]

1 minute ago, Fuzzy Afro said:

It’s absolutely true. Life expectancy in some areas of Glasgow is on par with Baghdad. 

life expectancy in parts of Manchester not great either. It's called poverty.

[steviewevie]

Just now, ace56blaa said:

Yeah again Keir Starmer does come across as weak opposition, especially when there is no PMQs. Because he is always great at PMQs. 

But now I just find myself wondering, why is Labour almost as silent as the Tories they are opposing. This situation could have been a prime moment to increase labour messaging, Show the public exactly how the tories have got this wrong. 

But it's almost as if if it can't be done the fair formal way. Keir is scared to criticize the government. I think that is in part due to Boris Johnson's constant nicknames and terrible pmq comebacks, I think Keir thinks that the way to win the public opinion is to try and act on tiptoes around certain issues so that boris johnson cant create a smear campaign. 

But the problem is Boris Johnson, will smear Keir Starmer no matter what, even if he resorts to lying or inaccurate nicknames like "Captain Hindsight" Cause thats what Tories do, they play dirty. But labour needs to not try and bend to their rules which Keir seems to be doing in an attempt to win Tory voters. 

The thing is a lot of Tory voters would probably prefer someone taking the government to task at every corner not just at PMQs as most dont watch that. 

I think Keir is okay, but he is so seethrough and often comes across as really fake. Like he is leagues better than Boris Johnson, but that doesn't mean he is a good leader. 

This could all change but right now, especially wihtout parliament Labour just look a bit quiet

we're at a moment of national crisis.

[MEGABOWL]

1 minute ago, Fuzzy Afro said:

It’s absolutely true. Life expectancy in some areas of Glasgow is on par with Baghdad. 

I live in Glasgow. I didn’t grow up in a particularly nice part of Manchester (I knew Dale Cretan-lived two streets away). I spent part of my Uni life on a housing estate in Nottingham that had Armed Police patrols and where a baby was stabbed outside my local Coop.

And even then, the first time I went into the East End of Glasgow was an eye opener to say the least.

[PolygonWindow]

Does anyone see this lockdown (however long it is, say 6 weeks) as the last ‘push’ before a sense of ‘normality’ or is that me being overly optimistic?

[Homer]

2 minutes ago, MEGABOWL said:

I live in Glasgow. I didn’t grow up in a particularly nice part of Manchester (I knew Dale Cretan-lived two streets away). I spent part of my Uni life on a housing estate in Nottingham that had Armed Police patrols and where a baby was stabbed outside my local Coop.

And even then, the first time I went into the East End of Glasgow was an eye opener to say the least.

Was it like this?
 

 

[Homer]

4 minutes ago, MEGABOWL said:

I live in Glasgow. I didn’t grow up in a particularly nice part of Manchester (I knew Dale Cretan-lived two streets away). I spent part of my Uni life on a housing estate in Nottingham that had Armed Police patrols and where a baby was stabbed outside my local Coop.

And even then, the first time I went into the East End of Glasgow was an eye opener to say the least.

You might find this interesting as they discuss that topic:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p08ybt8d

[steviewevie]

3 minutes ago, PolygonWindow said:

Does anyone see this lockdown (however long it is, say 6 weeks) as the last ‘push’ before a sense of ‘normality’ or is that me being overly optimistic?

That's what we're all hoping and praying for....

[zahidf]

Cummins next

 

 

[stuartbert two hats]

Follow this account, a great way to stop being overwhelmed by all the bad news:

 

 

 

[Mr.Tease]

12 minutes ago, ace56blaa said:

Yeah again Keir Starmer does come across as weak opposition, especially when there is no PMQs. Because he is always great at PMQs. 

But now I just find myself wondering, why is Labour almost as silent as the Tories they are opposing. This situation could have been a prime moment to increase labour messaging, Show the public exactly how the tories have got this wrong. 

But it's almost as if if it can't be done the fair formal way. Keir is scared to criticize the government. I think that is in part due to Boris Johnson's constant nicknames and terrible pmq comebacks, I think Keir thinks that the way to win the public opinion is to try and act on tiptoes around certain issues so that boris johnson cant create a smear campaign. 

But the problem is Boris Johnson, will smear Keir Starmer no matter what, even if he resorts to lying or inaccurate nicknames like "Captain Hindsight" Cause thats what Tories do, they play dirty. But labour needs to not try and bend to their rules which Keir seems to be doing in an attempt to win Tory voters. 

The thing is a lot of Tory voters would probably prefer someone taking the government to task at every corner not just at PMQs as most dont watch that. 

I think Keir is okay, but he is so seethrough and often comes across as really fake. Like he is leagues better than Boris Johnson, but that doesn't mean he is a good leader. 

This could all change but right now, especially wihtout parliament Labour just look a bit quiet

I do think he needs to change his strategy team/approach, this "wait until you know Boris is going to do something, then demand he do it before he does" strategy is so transparent, it's embarrassing. Wish he'd just be more principled, rather than doing dodgy tactics.

[Mr.Tease]

32 minutes ago, steviewevie said:

 

To be fair, the government has only had 9 months to avoid this. Instead they planned a 5 day Christmas household mixing bonanza. 

[Brownie30]

I've been generally impressed yet not overly excited by Starmer but think he really dropped a ball on this one and should have been calling for school closures as soon as SAGE and the teaching unions demanded.

[WestCountryGirl]

9 minutes ago, stuartbert two hats said:

Follow this account, a great way to stop being overwhelmed by all the bad news:

 

 

 

I'm out of upvotes for today, but thank you. I need that right now.

[Mr.Tease]

15 minutes ago, Homer said:

Was it like this?
 

 

Ha, that was my favourite episode of a great series (is it well known? Never seemed to do as well as it should have!)

[Tranquility of Solitude]

10 minutes ago, zahidf said:

Cummins next

 

 

Not wishing to be seen to enjoy another persons misfortune, but this is excellent news. Along with Cummings, I’m hoping to see Prince Charles arrested for his ridiculous and dangerous trip to Balmoral when he knew he was infected.

[Guest]

1 minute ago, Mr.Tease said:

To be fair, the government has only had 9 months to avoid this. Instead they planned a 5 day Christmas household mixing bonanza. 

Remember the letter from PHE in the summer wanting the government about this, the one that Johnson hadn’t even read? Well they should’ve acted on that now. 

[Supernintendo Chalmers]

[Homer]

4 minutes ago, Mr.Tease said:

Ha, that was my favourite episode of a great series (is it well known? Never seemed to do as well as it should have!)

'It had a brief run in Peru'.

Nah, it's a cult thing. I only caught it years later when a mate gave me the DVD!

[stuartbert two hats]

1 minute ago, Homer said:

'It had a brief run in Peru'.

Nah, it's a cult thing. I only caught it years later when a mate gave me the DVD!

It's the cultiest culty cult programme of all time.

[Tranquility of Solitude]

Janey Godleys latest take, always worth a watch.

 

[The Dawg]

I'm convinced that everything is a feckin shambles at the moment. Sod it, i'm off to the pub!

[stuartbert two hats]

Just now, The Dawg said:

I'm convinced that everything is a feckin shambles at the moment. Sod it, i'm off to the pub!

I have some bad news for you...