Crazyfool01 Posted September 15, 2019 Report Share Posted September 15, 2019 2 minutes ago, Lycra said: Yes the texts come through quite quick so no problem there. As you point out it could hinder large groups but maybe thats not such a bad thing. However where there's a will there's a way. As has already been pointed out, I just wonder what solutions have been put in place for those who wish to buy online but who don't have smartphones or online banking ? maybe that's the reason for the introduction of the timer and the holding of the tickets too Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lycra Posted September 15, 2019 Report Share Posted September 15, 2019 (edited) 23 minutes ago, crazyfool1 said: maybe that's the reason for the introduction of the timer and the holding of the tickets too The changes need to be accommodated in the buying process somehow so it could be. However allocating tickets once the registrations had been confirmed in the buying process is a no brainer and something I assumed happened automatically in the background. I'd also expect the system to have a cut off timer. It's a customer friendly touch publicising this knowledge and leaves a whole load of panic strike anxiety that takes hold amoungst us buyers..........Actually hold that last thought. I'm going be heart pumpingly manic until the ticket purchase confirmation email is received (hopefully) Edited September 15, 2019 by Lycra Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crazyfool01 Posted September 15, 2019 Report Share Posted September 15, 2019 13 minutes ago, Lycra said: The changes need to be accommodated in the buying process somehow so it could be. However allocating tickets once the registrations had been confirmed in the buying process is a no brainer and something I assumed happened automatically in the background. I'd also expect the system to have a cut off timer. It's a customer friendly touch publicising this knowledge and leaves a whole load of panic strike anxiety that takes hold amoungst us buyers..........Actually hold that last thought. I'm going be heart pumpingly manic until the ticket purchase confirmation email is received (hopefully) The worst thing is buying for other people ... telling them you have got them ... and then nervously waiting ... it’s worse than waiting for your own email to arrive Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Madyaker Posted September 15, 2019 Report Share Posted September 15, 2019 Seems to only be a UK thing which could give people from outside the UK an advantage? But if it happens on the payment screen then you’ve essentially got your tickets already so maybe not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cheesey_toastie Posted September 15, 2019 Report Share Posted September 15, 2019 1 minute ago, Madyaker said: Seems to only be a UK thing which could give people from outside the UK an advantage? But if it happens on the payment screen then you’ve essentially got your tickets already so maybe not. Not so sure. The system has got better in recent years but I've definitely got to the payment screen before then found the server crashed etc and gone back to square one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ozanne Posted September 15, 2019 Report Share Posted September 15, 2019 I wonder if this text from the banks would be needed if See Ever started using Apple Pay, generally when using Apple Pay this goes straight through? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cheesey_toastie Posted September 15, 2019 Report Share Posted September 15, 2019 "You may book up to six coach tickets per transaction" Am I reading into this that it may be a different amount for general sales. The resales have been limited to four before haven't they? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ozanne Posted September 15, 2019 Report Share Posted September 15, 2019 It’s normally 6 for general sale too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UEF Posted September 15, 2019 Report Share Posted September 15, 2019 4 for resales Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Madyaker Posted September 15, 2019 Report Share Posted September 15, 2019 3 hours ago, cheesey_toastie said: Not so sure. The system has got better in recent years but I've definitely got to the payment screen before then found the server crashed etc and gone back to square one. You could maybe bypass it by using a revolut card or some other pre paid card. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr.Tease Posted September 15, 2019 Report Share Posted September 15, 2019 3 hours ago, Madyaker said: You could maybe bypass it by using a revolut card or some other pre paid card. I can never remember if those are classed as credit or debit cards Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dotdash79 Posted September 15, 2019 Report Share Posted September 15, 2019 21 hours ago, Summertime said: Has anyone heard much about the new rules for using a credit/debit card for online purchases? It was due to come into effect today but an 18 month extension has been granted to give banks more time. But they could introduce it anytime between now and the 18 month extension deadline. Might mean an extra step if any of the banks bring it in before ticket day. This is an extract from the article and the link to it: “From 14 September 2019*, you’ll no longer be able to pay online using just your credit or debit card details Banks are telling customers to confirm online card payments by entering a unique security code sent by text message or via push notification (if you have the mobile banking app). *UPDATE* On 13 August 2019, the Financial Conduct Authority agreed to give the payments industry more time to implement SCA. There will now be an 18-month managed roll-out, although some banks are already making extra security checks. https://www.which.co.uk/news/2019/06/new-online-security-checks-exclude-people-without-mobile-phones-or-decent-signal/ I don’t know any more than what’s in this article but thought I’d share in case others also weren’t aware. Just been reading up on it, and you merchants can create exceptions, the only risk it they are on the hook for any fraud as opposed to the card issuer. As it's just a deposit being paid and that everyone needs to be registered the risk of fraud is low. I would expect it to be turned off for the initial sale, and turned back on for the balance payments. The tricky thing is that the resale is all in one transactions so I'm unsure what they would do in that case. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pinhead Posted September 15, 2019 Report Share Posted September 15, 2019 Had to do it today for an online payment. Could cause havoc if they haven't implemented it properly (and if the banks verification system struggles to keep up with the timer on See). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dotdash79 Posted September 15, 2019 Report Share Posted September 15, 2019 9 hours ago, Ozanne said: I wonder if this text from the banks would be needed if See Ever started using Apple Pay, generally when using Apple Pay this goes straight through? Apple Pay is PSD2 SCA compliant as you either use a pin, finger print or other biometric method to protect the card (in effect you pre auth the transaction). The main thing the regulation is trying to stop is card not present fraud on the internet, but it's never going to be perfect. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pear_Cider Posted September 15, 2019 Report Share Posted September 15, 2019 21 minutes ago, Pinhead said: Had to do it today for an online payment. Could I ask you which bank that was buddy? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pinhead Posted September 15, 2019 Report Share Posted September 15, 2019 NaffWest Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pinhead Posted September 15, 2019 Report Share Posted September 15, 2019 For years they had turned off the verify (presumably cos they had an agreement to do so), and that helped a great deal when you have the 'will it wont it' crash timer against you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Summertime Posted September 15, 2019 Report Share Posted September 15, 2019 2 hours ago, dotdash79 said: Just been reading up on it, and you merchants can create exceptions, the only risk it they are on the hook for any fraud as opposed to the card issuer. As it's just a deposit being paid and that everyone needs to be registered the risk of fraud is low. I would expect it to be turned off for the initial sale, and turned back on for the balance payments. The tricky thing is that the resale is all in one transactions so I'm unsure what they would do in that case. Thanks for the extra research. ? Been trying to do some too but there’s not too many specific details from the banks or merchants and See Tickets are being typically quiet ? Guess we’ll see over the next few weeks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dotdash79 Posted September 15, 2019 Report Share Posted September 15, 2019 (edited) 4 minutes ago, Summertime said: Thanks for the extra research. ? Been trying to do some too but there’s not too many specific details from the banks or merchants and See Tickets are being typically quiet ? Guess we’ll see over the next few weeks It a good idea in principle, but it needs to be robust and work under load. I don’t have a definite answer for what see would do but they are unlikely to tell anyone as it could be exploited by scammers. Edited September 15, 2019 by dotdash79 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hfuhruhurr Posted September 16, 2019 Report Share Posted September 16, 2019 Well, with tickets at £270 (if you can figure out how to buy them without the £5 booking fee, let me know) has put off some of my more hard-up mates. Wonder if others have this? 50th anniversary means nothing to them - they know it's fab, but the cost seems to have broken a few. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeyT Posted September 16, 2019 Report Share Posted September 16, 2019 Too soon? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr.Tease Posted September 16, 2019 Report Share Posted September 16, 2019 59 minutes ago, JoeyT said: Too soon? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clarkete Posted September 16, 2019 Report Share Posted September 16, 2019 On 9/15/2019 at 9:34 AM, crazyfool1 said: The worst thing is buying for other people ... telling them you have got them ... and then nervously waiting ... it’s worse than waiting for your own email to arrive What a disgusting display of altruism. You sicken (and shame) me Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark E. Spliff Posted September 16, 2019 Report Share Posted September 16, 2019 (edited) In case it hasn't already been confirmed elsewhere in this thread, on BBC 6 Music music news, they just announced that the ticket sale dates have been confirmed as 3rd October for coaches and 6th October for main sale. (Edit: just seen that Dukeicon had already posted this on Thursday. Excuse the old news - I'm out of the picture as I don't buy tickets.) Edited September 16, 2019 by Mark E. Spliff Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brettredmayne Posted September 16, 2019 Report Share Posted September 16, 2019 I just got this email which seems like what we have been talking about We're just writing to let you know about new payment security measures that will be introduced from 14 September 2019, in response to a change in the law. The new system is called SCA (Strong Customer Authentication), and will apply whenever you make a purchase from any retailer, including Contactlenses.co.uk. How will this affect you? Extra security checks will become more frequent when you're paying online. These are applied at random and you'll be asked to authenticate the purchase by entering a unique one-use passcode, which your card issuer will send to your phone. What we advise you do? Make sure your card issuer or bank has your most up-to-date phone number, so that they can send the passcode to you, and Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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