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4 hours ago, DL50 said:

Very surprised that they haven't played in recent years tbh.

Surely they have to be back again sometime soon?

Completely agree that Other Stage headline is the only place for them. Pyramid sub would be a waste, similar to the National in 2017

I could totally see them being booked as a pyramid sub though and it falling on its arse.

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We need to stop saying The National died in 2017 because of the slot, as if it's a poisoned chalice. They died because of themselves. They had every chance to hit a home run and instead struck out by running through four or five brand new songs in a row. It wasn't their first time on the farm either, so the novice card is out the deck as an excuse – all around still a baffler.

Bonny Bear should get Other though, agreed.

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The pyramid sub slot is the worst slot of the festival though. It’s the trickiest slot to pull off successfully. 

A lot of people who won’t give a fuck about bon iver will see the set as a perfect time to have a chat over a beer.

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Actually, I think it was only fans of The National who were bewildered by the run of unreleased material. Those who didn't know anything (and there were many) knew better. In fact I've heard many neutrals say they thoroughly enjoyed the set.

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Surely they aren't dumb and will give them other headliner? Pyramid sub is hard alright. Foals struggled in 2016 but I still enjoyed it. The XX did a good job in 17 I thought.

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Gonna be honest here... and I'm feeling pretty ignorant.. But I have never heard anything from Bon Iver. So I've written a note on my hand to remind me to have a listen on the journey home in the morning.

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Thought The XX nailed the sub role in 2017. That was a cracking afternoon/night at the Pyramid I was there from midday to midnight just about. Never went near it for the rest of the festival though.

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5 hours ago, Ddiamondd said:

We need to stop saying The National died in 2017 because of the slot, as if it's a poisoned chalice. They died because of themselves. They had every chance to hit a home run and instead struck out by running through four or five brand new songs in a row. It wasn't their first time on the farm either, so the novice card is out the deck as an excuse – all around still a baffler.

Bonny Bear should get Other though, agreed.

Couldn't agree more with all of this

 

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15 hours ago, Ddiamondd said:

We need to stop saying The National died in 2017 because of the slot, as if it's a poisoned chalice. They died because of themselves. They had every chance to hit a home run and instead struck out by running through four or five brand new songs in a row. It wasn't their first time on the farm either, so the novice card is out the deck as an excuse – all around still a baffler.

Bonny Bear should get Other though, agreed.

They alluded to the fact they played too many new ones in an interview a few months later. 

Their set selection is normally on point, but they got G17 very wrong. 

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12 hours ago, Curlygirl said:

Gonna be honest here... and I'm feeling pretty ignorant.. But I have never heard anything from Bon Iver. 

You're one of the lucky ones. Try keep it that way. 

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18 hours ago, jyoung said:

Actually, I think it was only fans of The National who were bewildered by the run of unreleased material. Those who didn't know anything (and there were many) knew better. In fact I've heard many neutrals say they thoroughly enjoyed the set.

yep, newbies I had with me thought it was great, Matt in particular.

it's also one of these myths on here that gets ramped up over time, that The National died on their arse. Looking through the thread afterwards, most people thought it was good, just not as good as they can be, due to the setlist choice obviously.

Sea of Love

Fake Empire

The System Only Dreams in Total Darkness

Walk It Back

Guilty Party

Day I Die

I Need My Girl

England

Bloodbuzz Ohio

Mr. November

Terrible Love

Turtleneck

 

System... was already out at that point, so it was Walk It Back, Guilty Party, The Day I Die, as well as Turtleneck (*shudder*) at the end that were unreleased.

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17 hours ago, SighMo said:

Thought The XX nailed the sub role in 2017. That was a cracking afternoon/night at the Pyramid I was there from midday to midnight just about. Never went near it for the rest of the festival though.

Acts like The xx are good in this slot as they get people dancing a bit with some upbeat tunes, similar to Tame Impala and Vampire weekend, so it doesn't matter if people don't know the tunes that well, they can enjoy it enough while they wait for a headliner. (plus those 3 have a decent bit of mainstream radio airplay).

Acts like The National, Beck, Nick Cave and Bon Iver aren't really going to get the barrier hangers or the blanket brigade grooving, so they're just going to stand around looking bored.

stick them on the Other and leave the Pyramid sub for Radio 1 fodder like George Ezra, Pharrell, Liam Gallagher etc.

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27 minutes ago, ghostdancer1 said:

Acts like The xx are good in this slot as they get people dancing a bit with some upbeat tunes, similar to Tame Impala and Vampire weekend, so it doesn't matter if people don't know the tunes that well, they can enjoy it enough while they wait for a headliner. (plus those 3 have a decent bit of mainstream radio airplay).

Acts like The National, Beck, Nick Cave and Bon Iver aren't really going to get the barrier hangers or the blanket brigade grooving, so they're just going to stand around looking bored.

stick them on the Other and leave the Pyramid sub for Radio 1 fodder like George Ezra, Pharrell, Liam Gallagher etc.

I kind of agree, but Nick Cave absolutely smashed that sub slot in 2013. I was down the front and it was electric.

The National were very meh in 2017 but I don't really like that album much and actively dislike Turtleneck.

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9 hours ago, The Nal said:

You're one of the lucky ones. Try keep it that way. 

I had a listen on the way home. I don't get it, I pulled over and changed it to Idles.

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16 hours ago, ghostdancer1 said:

it's also one of these myths on here that gets ramped up over time, that The National died on their arse. Looking through the thread afterwards, most people thought it was good, just not as good as they can be, due to the setlist choice obviously.

It wasn't a disaster, no. But they're one of the best live bands out there, with a killer catalogue, and they didn't show it.

It was a Kanye moment. Too many parts left out, the ones left in were in an order that diminished their impact, atmosphere was that of one eyebrow quizzically raised rather than a euphoric coronation.

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The new album is apparently very guest heavy. An Other headline bash with a few special guests would be an immense end to any evening.

I'll echo the praise of their APE set too. Fantastic stuff.

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