2025 Headliners

[JonSnow]

Ah yes wonderful our weekly debate on the crowd size of Charli XCX

 

Hopefully we really get to the bottom of it this time.

[fraybentos1]

Lana del Rey was a normal crowd at the other stage and she has since sold out stadiums effortlessly. 

 

If she was that big she'd be Headlining outright so the festival clearly doesn't think she is. 

[OllieMadd]

3 minutes ago, fraybentos1 said:

Lana del Rey was a normal crowd at the other stage and she has since sold out stadiums effortlessly. 

It wasn't really a normal crowd - it wasn't Avril Lavigne levels but it was really busy.

[Ben7amin_]

At the time Lana was due to start the field was pretty full (not dangerous) just full -  (as we know it was smaller when she came on stage). But yeah I would think she is a much more popular pick than Charli  

 

Id also say Lana has a better claim to being a Pyramid Headliner than Charli XCX. 

 

Edited February 5, 2025 by Ben7amin_

[Superscally]

45 minutes ago, fraybentos1 said:

He was against Royal Blood I think.

 

The Brat thing as in the tour where she played the o2 once then manchester birmingham and glasgow arenas? That's pretty normal. The more online you are, the bigger she seems. Genuinely don't see how she is much bigger than Fred Again in 2023. 

Fair play. Not much bigger, but all depends on the reality of the headliner draw. Won't be an Avril no matter what.

[CantWaitForGlasto22]

1 hour ago, Superscally said:

Nah. Charli way more widely known and the brat thing is going to have an effect. Will be very busy. Who was Fred Again(st)?

Also Young Fathers on WH, which was nicely busy too. They were very good 

[Superscally]

2 hours ago, fraybentos1 said:

Lana del Rey was a normal crowd at the other stage and she has since sold out stadiums effortlessly. 

 

If she was that big she'd be Headlining outright so the festival clearly doesn't think she is. 

Fair point again, though shifts can happen and Lana is more of a Stan crowd, than Charli who had National Trust guides doing ads in bratspeak. Genuinely interested how it pans out. All up for grabs!

[Ben7amin_]

1 hour ago, CantWaitForGlasto22 said:

Also Young Fathers on WH, which was nicely busy too. They were very good 

 

this set was absolutely epic the best thing I saw that year, came straight home and booked tour tickets. 

[stuie]

58 minutes ago, Superscally said:

Fair point again, though shifts can happen and Lana is more of a Stan crowd, than Charli who had National Trust guides doing ads in bratspeak. Genuinely interested how it pans out. All up for grabs!

 

Me too.  Not interested enough to go and see her but I look forward to hearing all about it! 🙂 

[Claire0406]

10 hours ago, Suprefan said:

 

He still has to create a show and all that stuff. Maybe didnt want to put all that energy into a couple of gigs. I mean the Coliseum show was 8 months in the making. You think its easy to just do Glasto? He mightve wanted to try some things and it was just going to take up too much of his time and decided to not do it.

 

 

I think she needs to be on Pyramid one way or another as to not cause a literal stampede. And if she was against Neil Young you are asking for a disaster at Other.

obviously i dont think that,again a very poor attitude to a question that i merely asked, my original question was, did it come from a reliable place?

  that was it 😄

Edited February 5, 2025 by Claire0406

[Superscally]

32 minutes ago, stuie said:

 

Me too.  Not interested enough to go and see her but I look forward to hearing all about it! 🙂 

I feel this year will be a big one for catch up iPlayer

[CantWaitForGlasto22]

1 hour ago, Ben7amin_ said:

 

this set was absolutely epic the best thing I saw that year, came straight home and booked tour tickets. 

Us too - saw them last year at The Albert Hall after seeing them on WH. Would love to catch them again 

[shuttlep]

Black Sabbath for legends slot would be nice

[balti-pie]

4 minutes ago, shuttlep said:

Black Sabbath for legends slot would be nice

I think Ozzy really only has about five or six songs in him at the absolute most. 

 

though if they want me to front the band for the Dio-era stuff i'm in 

[Skip997]

4 hours ago, Someoni said:

Is there going to be many people from 35 upwards rushing to see a performance based around a brat tour? My little sister is just 30 now and she's happy c xcx is on. But has never heard of Neil Y.

Depending on what’s on other stages I’ll be there and I’m a tad over 35

[thatTFBguy]

4 hours ago, fraybentos1 said:

Lana del Rey was a normal crowd at the other stage and she has since sold out stadiums effortlessly. 

 

If she was that big she'd be Headlining outright so the festival clearly doesn't think she is. 

 

Did you measure crowd size at the listed start time or 45 minutes later when she actually bothered to show up? 

[Quark]

Your occasional PSA reminder that while the general rule of don't be a d*ck should always apply anyway, please be particularly mindful of not being a d*ck in response to reasonable questions from newer / less frequent posters.

 

Edit: unless they pop up on a 2 year old thread, include links trying to flog stuff. Then have at it.

Edited February 5, 2025 by Quark

[Quark]

58 minutes ago, balti-pie said:

I think Ozzy really only has about five or six songs in him at the absolute most. 

 

though if they want me to front the band for the Dio-era stuff i'm in 

 I'd buy a ticket just to see you doing Lady Evil

 

Edit: as it were. Matron.

Edited February 5, 2025 by Quark

[K2SO]

My two cents on Charli is that I believe there's a good chance, if she's up against Neil Young, that she'll have the bigger crowd of the two.

 

The fact that Victoria Park hasn't sold out yet has a lot of caveats to it, such as the fact that there's a hell of a lot of big artists touring next year, the show was announced whilst she was already doing a tour, and maybe people aren't as willing to travel to see her but would watch her all the same.

 

Look at how busy the likes of The Sugababes, Avril Lavigne, etc have been in recent years and compare it to their demand outside of the festival. You get a lot of people who'll see them because they're at the festival, but wouldn't necessarily see them elsewhere - I think Charli may well be a huge example of an artist with the festival pull.

 

You've also got to bear in mind the age of people at the festival. Whilst Glasto's age demographic may skew slightly higher than other major festivals due to the fact that it's Glastonbury, but the overall crowd will still be largely made up of 16-30 year olds - An age group which are much more likely to have an interest in Charli than Neil Young.

[Skip997]

5 minutes ago, K2SO said:

My two cents on Charli is that I believe there's a good chance, if she's up against Neil Young, that she'll have the bigger crowd of the two.

 

I reckon you’re right. I might watch Neil Young if he were on earlier in the day, but as a headliner no. He’s hardly going to warm me up for a night of dancing 

[itsfomas]

7 minutes ago, K2SO said:

My two cents on Charli is that I believe there's a good chance, if she's up against Neil Young, that she'll have the bigger crowd of the two.

 

The fact that Victoria Park hasn't sold out yet has a lot of caveats to it, such as the fact that there's a hell of a lot of big artists touring next year, the show was announced whilst she was already doing a tour, and maybe people aren't as willing to travel to see her but would watch her all the same.

 

Look at how busy the likes of The Sugababes, Avril Lavigne, etc have been in recent years and compare it to their demand outside of the festival. You get a lot of people who'll see them because they're at the festival, but wouldn't necessarily see them elsewhere - I think Charli may well be a huge example of an artist with the festival pull.

 

You've also got to bear in mind the age of people at the festival. Whilst Glasto's age demographic may skew slightly higher than other major festivals due to the fact that it's Glastonbury, but the overall crowd will still be largely made up of 16-30 year olds - An age group which are much more likely to have an interest in Charli than Neil Young.

100% agree about her festival pull being larger than others. A lot of my friends will go see her at Glasto but have never had an inch of interest in buying tickets. 

[Pipine]

I’m 51 and Charli is the act I’m most excited about this year.  I’m sure most people I know would choose her over Neil Young. I think it’s going to be rammed. 

[NorthernSoul52]

I think Charli could pull a very big crowd as counter-programming to Neil Young. For me, it's the place she should be booked on the current basis.

 

Whether she is or not is another matter entirely.

[charlierc]

6 hours ago, thatTFBguy said:

 

Did you measure crowd size at the listed start time or 45 minutes later when she actually bothered to show up? 

Was about to say that would be a factor in working out what the crowd size was when she actually got going tbf.

[Suprefan]

8 hours ago, Claire0406 said:

obviously i dont think that,again a very poor attitude to a question that i merely asked, my original question was, did it come from a reliable place?

  that was it 😄

 

Yes. Cause the industry had him locked in for Coachella and he wasnt on the lineup. And when it appeared to be that he wasnt playing Coachella then the Glasto stuff came up.