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21 minutes ago, Mardy said:

hehehe.

 

I reckon what Galgon said about Stormzy is apposite here. Part of the excitement and thrill of music is the new, the unusual, the act that comes out and suddenly you get caught up in the manic thrill of it for a while. Do they all build on that initial promise, hell no, some of them go on to make awful album after awful album for the next couple of decades, but one of the intrinsic things about music, and football, and art or whatever is seeing that bright young thing emerge, full of promise and getting (over)excited about it, and getting swept up in the moment.

 

Is that a fad? Maybe, but rather that than hoary old dullards who've (dread phrase) 'paid their dues. That is the absolute antithesis of everything that's great about music. I want my pulse to race, i want to be infatuated, i want to feel like a wide eyed teenager again in love with all the possibilities. And if that means looking foolish a couple of years later so be it. Live a little, take a punt.


I wholeheartedly believed MGMT were going to change the landscape of modern music. 
 

Didn’t quite pan out. 

Although could be worse, a mate of mine has never lived down the quote “The Kooks are the most important band since The Libertines”.

 

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42 minutes ago, CharlotteB said:

The whole Fred Again craze has definitely passed me by. Is he some sort of genius, or is he a fad? I'd appreciate an expert opinion 😊


if you’ve not already, I’d say watch his Glasto Other stage set.  Then  watch his Reading set to give an idea what his headline set would be like. The bloke has talent in abundance. But will we all be bored in a year? Who knows. 
 

33 minutes ago, Mardy said:

hehehe.

 

I reckon what Galgon said about Stormzy is apposite here. Part of the excitement and thrill of music is the new, the unusual, the act that comes out and suddenly you get caught up in the manic thrill of it for a while. Do they all build on that initial promise, hell no, some of them go on to make awful album after awful album for the next couple of decades, but one of the intrinsic things about music, and football, and art or whatever is seeing that bright young thing emerge, full of promise and getting (over)excited about it, and getting swept up in the moment.

 

Is that a fad? Maybe, but rather that than hoary old dullards who've (dread phrase) 'paid their dues. That is the absolute antithesis of everything that's great about music. I want my pulse to race, i want to be infatuated, i want to feel like a wide eyed teenager again in love with all the possibilities. And if that means looking foolish a couple of years later so be it. Live a little, take a punt.


Great post. 

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40 minutes ago, CharlotteB said:

The whole Fred Again craze has definitely passed me by. Is he some sort of genius, or is he a fad? I'd appreciate an expert opinion 😊


Depends what you're looking for. His music has two sides really. The moody, introspective, James Blake influenced stuff and then the big, feelgood 'hugging your mates' tracks. If you're looking for something that's fairly easy-going and light, his music is perfect. He samples voice-notes by his friends, instagram lives, stuff like that.


I'm not a massive fan of Fred, but some of his tracks are pretty good. 

 

 

 

 

That's probably where to start if you are actually interested.

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3 minutes ago, Alex DeLarge said:


Depends what you're looking for. His music has two sides really. The moody, introspective, James Blake influenced stuff and then the big, feelgood 'hugging your mates' tracks. If you're looking for something that's fairly easy-going and light, his music is perfect. He samples voice-notes by his friends, instagram lives, stuff like that.


I'm not a massive fan of Fred, but some of his tracks are pretty good. 

 

 

 

 

That's probably where to start if you are actually interested.

Not for me but i think they've Glastonbury book him now before he fades.

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With fred again id say its just a more emotional experience than your standard dance music. im no expert on dance / electronic music but it just moves me in a way most dance music does not. cant really quantify it anymore than that and clearly many others feel the same. More so the Actual life series of albums than the new one. 

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1 hour ago, nikkic said:


I wholeheartedly believed MGMT were going to change the landscape of modern music. 
 

Didn’t quite pan out. 

Although could be worse, a mate of mine has never lived down the quote “The Kooks are the most important band since The Libertines”.

 

 

Me too. I saw a couple years back a YouTube video claiming that MGMT did Oracular Spectacular as a bit of a joke, then it blew up.

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Absolutely love MGMT still to this day -   I wish they would tour,  last album was great !

 

I saw them at Glastonbury last time and it was packed - thought the crowd was a bit sh*t,  People were getting grumpy when tracks were not all the 2-3 songs they know which as great as Time to pretend and a few others are they probably not a great representation of the overall sound of the band.  

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2 hours ago, Mardy said:

hehehe.

 

I reckon what Galgon said about Stormzy is apposite here. Part of the excitement and thrill of music is the new, the unusual, the act that comes out and suddenly you get caught up in the manic thrill of it for a while. Do they all build on that initial promise, hell no, some of them go on to make awful album after awful album for the next couple of decades, but one of the intrinsic things about music, and football, and art or whatever is seeing that bright young thing emerge, full of promise and getting (over)excited about it, and getting swept up in the moment.

 

Is that a fad? Maybe, but rather that than hoary old dullards who've (dread phrase) 'paid their dues. That is the absolute antithesis of everything that's great about music. I want my pulse to race, i want to be infatuated, i want to feel like a wide eyed teenager again in love with all the possibilities. And if that means looking foolish a couple of years later so be it. Live a little, take a punt.

 

There's been a fair few acts I've seen in relatively small venues and thought to myself, "this is the last time they play somewhere this small, it'll be arenas next year." Then it turns out that was the biggest venue they would play.

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Just now, Gnomicide said:

 

There's been a fair few acts I've seen in relatively small venues and thought to myself, "this is the last time they play somewhere this small, it'll be arenas next year." Then it turns out that was the biggest venue they would play.

 

I always thought the Maccabees would go on to be something big.  But not only did it not happen - they basically tapped out on there career well early 

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16 hours ago, MEGATRONICMEATWAGON said:

I'm loving all the hypothetical trios that could be mixed together between heritage or new stars, all different genres, something for everyone.

 

Fred/Rihanna/Green Day

 

Fender/O-Rod/Stevie W

 

Bruce/Eminem/Lady Gaga

 

Dave/Oasis/Madonna

Always my favourite way to approach. Know I've said it before, and I'll say it again, but you want:

 

Friday: Your rising star, with a commercial breakthrough. Arena-filling, with some currency, and preferably homegrown. (Sam Fender / Dave / The 1975.)

 

Saturday: Your modern-day chartfiller, with multi-night arena or stadium pedigree to match, capable of packing them in. (Harry Styles / Rihanna / Lady Gaga.)

 

Sunday: Your heritage headliner. Likely still a multi-night arena or stadium artist, but one who has the catalogue that spans back more than two decades and can work an all-ages crowd like seasoned pros. (Madonna / Green Day / Billy Joel.)

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3 minutes ago, NorthernSoul52 said:

A man can dream.

 

I drift in and out of these threads like the seas, so I have some catching up to do.

 

I know chart positions aren't everything, but quite surprised by how badly Wild God has flopped.  In at #5 for one week and then sunk like a stone.  I thought physical sales would have kept him buoyant but clearly not.

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2 minutes ago, CaledonianGonzo said:

 

I know chart positions aren't everything, but quite surprised by how badly Wild God has flopped.  In at #5 for one week and then sunk like a stone.  I thought physical sales would have kept him buoyant but clearly not.

Yeah, I'm disappointed - though had Oasis not reunited, it would have been at #2 and probably more close-run.

 

The lack of longevity maybe suggests that people have reached the stage where they want to see him as a "hits" artist - but the sales for the First Direct Arena show in Leeds were really slow last time I looked. Kind of gutting.

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4 hours ago, nikkic said:


a mate of mine has never lived down the quote “The Kooks are the most important band since The Libertines”.

 

 

😄 

i love it when people describe bands or artists as 'important' -  really? bloody hell, its music! its fun, its enjoyment, hedonism, its all of that quote by mardy up there - dont take it seriously or you end up with hideous boring Pink Floyd serious nonsense! As soon as an artist becomes 'important' they lose any and all of their appeal! 

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9 minutes ago, NorthernSoul52 said:

Yeah, I'm disappointed - though had Oasis not reunited, it would have been at #2 and probably more close-run.

 

The lack of longevity maybe suggests that people have reached the stage where they want to see him as a "hits" artist - but the sales for the First Direct Arena show in Leeds were really slow last time I looked. Kind of gutting.

 

Yeah - the Hydro looks like it's struggling as well.  Seems the bubble has burst on the wee groundswell he had a few years back and he hasn't quite crossed over to the Dylan / Cohen Mojo boomers market the way some thought he would.  Coupled with turning off a chunk of his OG fanbase with his reactionary politics it's fair to say he's sliding back into the sort of position where even Other Headliner is a bit of a leg up.

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4 hours ago, Alex DeLarge said:


Depends what you're looking for. His music has two sides really. The moody, introspective, James Blake influenced stuff and then the big, feelgood 'hugging your mates' tracks. If you're looking for something that's fairly easy-going and light, his music is perfect. He samples voice-notes by his friends, instagram lives, stuff like that.


I'm not a massive fan of Fred, but some of his tracks are pretty good. 

 

 

 

 

That's probably where to start if you are actually interested.

 

Thank you. I will get round to having a good listen to make my own mind up 👍👍

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32 minutes ago, CaledonianGonzo said:

 

Yeah - the Hydro looks like it's struggling as well.  Seems the bubble has burst on the wee groundswell he had a few years back and he hasn't quite crossed over to the Dylan / Cohen Mojo boomers market the way some thought he would.  Coupled with turning off a chunk of his OG fanbase with his reactionary politics it's fair to say he's sliding back into the sort of position where even Other Headliner is a bit of a leg up.

 

Don't think it has much of an impact really. His festival slots in Europe (which I would guess are happening) will already have been locked in place. As would any Glastonbury bookings. He's sold out a night at the O2 and added another so it's not as if nobody is turning up. Leeds sales are probably down due to a Manchester show also being on sale, so for Northern fans (not inc Scotland obviously) sales will be split between the two.

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58 minutes ago, NorthernSoul52 said:

Always my favourite way to approach. Know I've said it before, and I'll say it again, but you want:

 

Friday: Your rising star, with a commercial breakthrough. Arena-filling, with some currency, and preferably homegrown. (Sam Fender / Dave / The 1975.)

 

Saturday: Your modern-day chartfiller, with multi-night arena or stadium pedigree to match, capable of packing them in. (Harry Styles / Rihanna / Lady Gaga.)

 

Sunday: Your heritage headliner. Likely still a multi-night arena or stadium artist, but one who has the catalogue that spans back more than two decades and can work an all-ages crowd like seasoned pros. (Madonna / Green Day / Billy Joel.)

 

Im sorry to be the bearer of bad news............. (dramatic Pause) 

 

This sentence.    "who has the catalogue that spans back more than two decades"

 

I hate to say this now could include Lady Gaga & Rihanna - Times arrow is relentless 

 

 

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Yeah, Nick Cave hasn't really burst through to the mainstream. Unlikely to hear his stuff on the radio, not sure his fanbase is growing, if anything maybe contracting slightly (as per Calgon's earlier post). Every time I go on social media, I get adverts for the tour/album.

 

I used to love NC but the last few albums have been relentlessly hard work for me. They're clearly as Molesworth would say 'advanced, forthright, signifficant', but do they ever make me want to rush home from work to put one one as son as I burst through the door? No, they do not. Listening to anything by him from the last 10 years feels a bit like doing your homework.

 

 

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