Will the 2021 festival go ahead?

[zahidf]

15 second covid tests will probably be used

 

[zahidf]

On 12/13/2020 at 10:40 AM, eFestivals said:

yup. The only equitable-to-all scheme would be the govt insuring any business' losses due to covid. Never going to happen.

They cover film and TV production insurance.

[rivalschools.price]

2 hours ago, ivan said:

I am due to see Lanterns on the Lake in late Feb , which i think is the 4th rearranged date.

If everything is not in place or thought to be not in place i can see it getting moved again.

My last remaining non-rescheduled date for early in the year is The Ocean in Bristol which is the 4th Feb. 
Surprised it hasn’t been rescheduled already.

[Toilet Duck]

48 minutes ago, zahidf said:

DO you think the new variant mentioned by Hancock is the reason for the delay on Oxford approval?

Sorry, answered this in the other thread! No, the Oxford data is just a bit complex, doubt it has anything to do with this. 

[The Nal]

1 hour ago, rivalschools.price said:

I realise that, the reschedules have not surprised me in the least.

Just wondered if they had some sort of confirmation that it was definitely a no-go as they all came though this morning.

Maybe all the bands are on the same promotion?

 

2 hours ago, crazyfool1 said:

I know it’s your MO ... but are you ever positive about anything on here ? Or in life ? .... not this particular post ... I just quoted this one to ask the question 

[Crazyfool01]

1 minute ago, The Nal said:

Maybe all the bands are on the same promotion?

 

I didnt ask that .... Just being negative all the time must be exceptionally tiring ...

[Lycra]

47 minutes ago, zahidf said:

They cover film and TV production insurance.

No they don't 

[zahidf]

12 minutes ago, Lycra said:

No they don't 

https://www.theguardian.com/film/2020/jul/28/uk-pledges-500m-insurance-fund-to-jumpstart-film-and-tv-production

Basically do. Should have a similar system for festivals 

[Lycra]

2 hours ago, zahidf said:

https://www.theguardian.com/film/2020/jul/28/uk-pledges-500m-insurance-fund-to-jumpstart-film-and-tv-production

Basically do. Should have a similar system for festivals 

It's not the cart blanche underwriting of all tv and film production due to covid issues and the government knows it stands to make money it a production goes ahead. 

Edited December 14, 2020 by Lycra

[rmartin1803]

I seen emily liked this tweet earlier regarding a guy donating his ticket deposit to the festival 

[squirrelarmy]

9 minutes ago, rmartin1803 said:

I seen emily liked this tweet earlier regarding a guy donating his ticket deposit to the festival 

@crazyfool1 got a similar response when he tweeted her the same thing. 
 

I have no problem paying a second deposit if needed. £50 is nothing in the grand scheme of things per person going to the festival to ensure it’s survival. 
 

Of course there will be some who may struggle to find a spare £50 but in that case can they justify the expense of Glastonbury anyway? 

[Zoo Music Girl]

The way that is phrased though he is not actually offering to donate to the festival. He is basically just offering to pay his deposit for next early. Sure loads would love to do that but doesn't feel super charitable when it would just benefit him.

[SwedgeAntilles]

Typical thrifty Scotsman.

[Zoo Music Girl]

Or does he mean pay next year's deposit on top of a donation? Either way you are getting into pay to jump the queue territory but maybe that's what will be needed to keep it afloat.

[stuartbert two hats]

11 hours ago, jparx said:

I went back and checked the quotes from Emily after we were told off a few weeks ago for still talking about it. 

For those who have been asking, we have no plans to move next year's Glastonbury to September 2021 - we're still very much aiming for June," 

To me that does not equal “it will definitely not move.” It’s not preferable and they’re only focusing on June right now, but if we get to March and things are still up in the air, I still believe they would look at other options. They might look at moving it and dismiss it fairly quickly, but Emily’s quote there doesn’t mean there’s 0% chance of September in my opinion. It’s probably a 2% chance as we speak, but a chance none the less and it could increase as time moves on.

Told off?

[stuartbert two hats]

22 minutes ago, Zoo Music Girl said:

Or does he mean pay next year's deposit on top of a donation? Either way you are getting into pay to jump the queue territory but maybe that's what will be needed to keep it afloat.

I think he's offering to write off this year's deposit if it keeps the festival afloat for 2022, or to pay full price for the 2021 festival, even though he's already paid a deposit. 

[Jack.194]

Was feeling optimistic until the past few days, feel like the mood has just changed for the negative.

[jparx]

1 hour ago, stuartbert two hats said:

Told off?

Someone had a pop at us a week or so back because there was absolutely zero chance it would move and it was ridiculous to even entertain the idea!

[rmartin1803]

2 hours ago, SwedgeAntilles said:

Typical thrifty Scotsman.

Big up the scots 🍺❤️😂

[kalifire]

I interpreted the tweet that Emily liked as the dude offering to sacrifice his current deposit (for 2021) and let the festival keep it. In exchange he’d like to be given the opportunity to buy a new deposit for 2022. 

I can see that happening - the festival giving a couple of options of what they do with existing deposits (refund or donate to the festival). I don’t think a guaranteed 2022 ticket would be conditional on a donation though. 

Anyhow, it’s a little telling that Emily is liking such suggestions. The momentum definitely doesn’t feel like it’s positive for next year at this point. 

[eFestivals]

3 hours ago, kalifire said:

The momentum definitely doesn’t feel like it’s positive for next year at this point. 

I'll agree with that.

As things stand it's a total leap in the dark because the govt won't say what happens when death rates fall and hospitals are no longer at risk of overload.

If the govt did that, Glastonbury could evaluate the chances of having those lower heathcare demands.

But as things stand, Glastonbury could accurately guess the future of the virus but still be shafted by govt policy. 

The govt needs to lay out their policy. The more certainties there are about the future the better a business can evaluate the overall risks of proceeding.

[TGCarr]

Would it really hurt Glasto to move to later down the year to stand a good chance of going ahead? 

[xxialac]

4 minutes ago, eFestivals said:

I'll agree with that.

As things stand it's a total leap in the dark because the govt won't say what happens when death rates fall and hospitals are no longer at risk of overload.

If the govt did that, Glastonbury could evaluate the chances of having those lower heathcare demands.

But as things stand, Glastonbury could accurately guess the future of the virus but still be shafted by govt policy. 

The govt needs to lay out their policy. The more certainties there are about the future the better a business can evaluate the overall risks of proceeding.

If you look at how the Government has handled e.g. the travel policy, it's changed every 5 minutes and they are clearly making it up as they go along.

If we weren't being governed by a bunch of indecisive spivs, I'd be much more confident that we'd have a Glastonbury. Lack of a planning framework is so harmful for business.

[parsonjack]

4 hours ago, kalifire said:

I interpreted the tweet that Emily liked as the dude offering to sacrifice his current deposit (for 2021) and let the festival keep it. In exchange he’d like to be given the opportunity to buy a new deposit for 2022. 

I can see that happening - the festival giving a couple of options of what they do with existing deposits (refund or donate to the festival). I don’t think a guaranteed 2022 ticket would be conditional on a donation though. 

Anyhow, it’s a little telling that Emily is liking such suggestions. The momentum definitely doesn’t feel like it’s positive for next year at this point. 

I read it the same, but much as the festival may privately view this as one solution to the financial crisis I just can't see them going cap in hand and actually asking people to bail them out. I think it's more likely that the festival would make statements about their uncertain future and trust in their supporters to help out without actually asking for it.  Which of course would happen.

[eFestivals]

1 hour ago, TGCarr said:

Would it really hurt Glasto to move to later down the year to stand a good chance of going ahead? 

it wouldn't hurt it. Whether it's possible is something else tho. Land issues, whether bands, infrastructure and staff are available, etc.