When will this shit end?

[Copperface]

40 minutes ago, aj6658 said:

Ive been told I'm being way too optimistic but I think by august we'll be back to pre-covid. My reasoning is that with the vaccine, we're hitting around 2-3m a week. Once the Morderna and J+J vaccine are approved we could be hitting 4-5m a week. J+J is a single jab that's easy to transport. Less effective than the 2 shot vaccines but you could use J+J for people under 50.

 

If 70% of the population is vaccinated (with 100% of at risk) where is the risk and danger? Sure I think borders should be heavily restricted till other countries catch up but I inside the UK we should be good 

 

Am I being way to unrealistic ?

Bring it on.....

 

A new forecast provided to the Guardian by the data analytics company Airfinity, based on the agreed vaccine supply deals and taking into account the latest developments in terms of delayed production, suggests that the UK will have achieved herd immunity by vaccinating 75% of the population by 14 July, closely followed by the US on 9 August. The EU will have to wait until 21 October.

 

Edited January 27, 2021 by Copperface

[Ryan1984]

Johnson really did look ill today, didn’t he? Was it me or was his voice a tad huskier than usual?

Apparently offering an update on schools and the exit plan in half an hour or so.

[eFestivals]

1 minute ago, Copperface said:

suggests that the UK will have achieved herd immunity by vaccinating 75% of the population by 14 July

Which, if used as the trigger for full-normal-restart, it makes the restart date as 4th August (3 weeks after last vaccination).

I think it's impossible to see the raving right tories being reigned back until then.

[zahidf]

1 minute ago, eFestivals said:

Which, if used as the trigger for full-normal-restart, it makes the restart date as 4th August (3 weeks after last vaccination).

I think it's impossible to see the raving right tories being reigned back until then.

i believe that report has the restart date as 14th July ( as in last vaccination 3 weeks before then)

[Copperface]

6 minutes ago, eFestivals said:

Which, if used as the trigger for full-normal-restart, it makes the restart date as 4th August (3 weeks after last vaccination).

I think it's impossible to see the raving right tories being reigned back until then.

Seems sensible. But I've always thought that once we get past Phase 1/Groups 1-9 then things will be opened up. But not 'normality'. Most things OK except mass gatherings/large crowds/probably international travel and a few other things etc. They'll put up with that until August especially if the rest of the world are a bit behind, which will affect a great deal of what we do.

Edited January 27, 2021 by Copperface

[xxialac]

9 minutes ago, Copperface said:

Bring it on.....

 

A new forecast provided to the Guardian by the data analytics company Airfinity, based on the agreed vaccine supply deals and taking into account the latest developments in terms of delayed production, suggests that the UK will have achieved herd immunity by vaccinating 75% of the population by 14 July, closely followed by the US on 9 August. The EU will have to wait until 21 October.

Australia is set even later at December 2021.

I thought Brexit was sold to us as the same opportunities as Australia?

[54cost]

Guys, according to you, with variants, and vaccination rythm, are you confident there will be huge festival as glastonbury, tomorrowland or UMF in summer 2022, with or without social distancing and masks ?

I know that a lot of people don't know, but i just wanted to have your feeling now.

[Copperface]

Just now, xxialac said:

Australia is set even later at December 2021.

I thought Brexit was sold to us as the same opportunities as Australia?

That was the Australia style deal - which we didn't go for the end luckily......

[Ozanne]

2 minutes ago, 54cost said:

Guys, according to you, with variants, and vaccination rythm, are you confident there will be huge festival as glastonbury, tomorrowland or UMF in summer 2022, with or without social distancing and masks ?

I know that a lot of people don't know, but i just wanted to have your feeling now.

Welcome!

Id be more confident about day festivals than camping festivals in the summer. Potentially some festivals towards the later end but maybe not huge ones. 

[topmarksbri]

Not sure if this has been posted yet but thought was interesting!

 

COVID-19: Breakthrough treatment claims to stop 100% of symptomatic infections
 

[SheffJeff]

5 minutes ago, 54cost said:

Guys, according to you, with variants, and vaccination rythm, are you confident there will be huge festival as glastonbury, tomorrowland or UMF in summer 2022, with or without social distancing and masks ?

I know that a lot of people don't know, but i just wanted to have your feeling now.

"I'm gonna say what any man with two penises would say, when his tailor asks him if he dresses right or left... Yes." - Slevin Kelevra

[Zoo Music Girl]

7 minutes ago, 54cost said:

Guys, according to you, with variants, and vaccination rythm, are you confident there will be huge festival as glastonbury, tomorrowland or UMF in summer 2022, with or without social distancing and masks ?

I know that a lot of people don't know, but i just wanted to have your feeling now.

2022 I think you should be fine! 

[steviewevie]

10 minutes ago, xxialac said:

Australia is set even later at December 2021.

I thought Brexit was sold to us as the same opportunities as Australia?

Kind of suprised they don't start mass vaccinations before winter arrives there (even though can't really call it winter I guess)

[steviewevie]

10 minutes ago, 54cost said:

Guys, according to you, with variants, and vaccination rythm, are you confident there will be huge festival as glastonbury, tomorrowland or UMF in summer 2022, with or without social distancing and masks ?

I know that a lot of people don't know, but i just wanted to have your feeling now.

I think more than likely at the moment, yes.

[fraybentos1]

24,192 is the Scottish vaccination number for today. (If my maths is correct)

[foolee]

1 minute ago, steviewevie said:

Kind of suprised they don't start mass vaccinations before winter arrives there (even though can't really call it winter I guess)

Isn't December summer for Australia though?

[eFestivals]

20 minutes ago, zahidf said:

i believe that report has the restart date as 14th July ( as in last vaccination 3 weeks before then)

ooooh, I believe you could be right. It says "will have achieved herd immunity" by 14th July. Even better.

Still can't see the raving right tories being reigned back till then.

[Copperface]

25 minutes ago, eFestivals said:

Which, if used as the trigger for full-normal-restart, it makes the restart date as 4th August (3 weeks after last vaccination).

I think it's impossible to see the raving right tories being reigned back until then.

I would treat that survey with a pinch of salt as a great deal can change very quickly but the July date now also neatly dovetails with this:

https://www.reuters.com/article/uk-health-coronavirus-britain-lockdown/uk-extends-councils-lockdown-powers-until-july-17-telegraph-says-idUSKBN29S0PW

Edited January 27, 2021 by Copperface

[steviewevie]

3 minutes ago, foolee said:

Isn't December summer for Australia though?

yes, so why don't they start mass vaccinating now before their winter arrives in May/June.....(and before some of these nasty variants get into their country).

[st dan]

22nd Feb the lockdown ending plan to be unveiled. Surely means full lockdown until at least end of March (as expected). 

[eFestivals]

13 minutes ago, Ozanne said:

Id be more confident about day festivals than camping festivals in the summer.

camping was one the first things to be opened up last summer. 

And there's surely more risk from many more people-movements and between more people via day events than there is from multiday events.

[Ozanne]

Johnson has said:

Plan for lockdown to be eased to be put to the Commons after recess on 22nd February.

Schools won’t immediately reopen after half term. 

Edited January 27, 2021 by Ozanne

[steviewevie]

1 minute ago, eFestivals said:

ooooh, I believe you could be right. It says "will have achieved herd immunity" by 14th July. Even better.

Still can't see the raving right tories being reigned back till then.

that will give them a end date for all (or most) restrictions though..so, gradually get schools, then shops, then pubs open etc etc...and by July everyone can go out and play, but you can't go abroad.

[54cost]

Thanks for your responses ! As i was impatient to do my first festival in 2020, cancelled, and then cancelled in 2021, i just want hope for future ! 😊

[st dan]

8th March pencilled in for schools reopening. With end of other restrictions starting from then too (if data allows)