When will this shit end?

[Copperface]

2 minutes ago, Toilet Duck said:

Will there be much flu vaccination going on in March/April though? I remember trying to get one in March one year as I was starting a new job in a cancer centre and could only find one GP in Dublin with any left! 

No idea about March and April, but it is now and will be in January and February. They only introduced the flu vaccine for over 50's from the 1st December.

[zahidf]

Interesting

 

[Toilet Duck]

4 minutes ago, Copperface said:

No idea about March and April, but it is now and will be in January and February. They only introduced the flu vaccine for over 50's from the 1st December.

Oh I don’t think it’ll be millions per week in January, most of the schedules I’ve seen have the ramp up from February, which I guess would correspond with finishing the flu programme and the required gap between getting the different vaccines. Odd you guys only got the over 50s flu shot in December, my parents and in laws had theirs back at the start of November here (got mine at the start of November too, but I’m under 50!)...I suppose we have a much smaller population to look after (or maybe we’re using the same adult shot for everyone and the only difference being the live attenuated one for the kids...I haven’t really looked into it!). 

[Crazyfool01]

13 minutes ago, Copperface said:

No idea about March and April, but it is now and will be in January and February. They only introduced the flu vaccine for over 50's from the 1st December.

so if we look at the list posted earlier of numbers .... and add them up with some overlaps included we would now have 34million jabbed and 4.4 million remaining .... fag packet maths .... the uptake won't obviously be that high ... there really won't be so many flu jabs remaining comparatively 

[RobertProsineckisLighter]

4 minutes ago, efcfanwirral said:

I reckon the changed behaviour around Christmas is at least some part of this - all the additional shopping (and associated journeys) and most likely socialising will contribute to an extent, like I would expect even with this variant if this was October say it wouldn't be quite as bad. But it's still very very bad

Densely populated T2 areas.

[tigger123]

15 minutes ago, Copperface said:

No idea about March and April, but it is now and will be in January and February. They only introduced the flu vaccine for over 50's from the 1st December.

My mum who is over 50 with no underlying health conditions got hers in mid November so unsure where this 1st December date is coming from? Her flu jab wasn’t done privately, but on the NHS 

[parsonjack]

2 minutes ago, tigger123 said:

My mum who is over 50 with no underlying health conditions got hers in mid November so unsure where this 1st December date is coming from? Her flu jab wasn’t done privately, but on the NHS 

She probably paid for it mid-November, rather than getting it for free which I think came in from 1st December for over 50s.

[Crazyfool01]

1 minute ago, tigger123 said:

My mum who is over 50 with no underlying health conditions got hers in mid November so unsure where this 1st December date is coming from? Her flu jab wasn’t done privately, but on the NHS 

I did think they were offered in a priority list ... I know several over 50s who have just been offered them .... I think thats to ensure that the people need them most got them they didnt run out ..... Not sure what happened with your mum though ...

[Copperface]

3 minutes ago, tigger123 said:

My mum who is over 50 with no underlying health conditions got hers in mid November so unsure where this 1st December date is coming from? Her flu jab wasn’t done privately, but on the NHS 

People aged 50 and over

From 1 December, the NHS flu vaccination is available for everyone aged 50 and over. You can get vaccinated at your GP surgery or a pharmacy offering a flu vaccine service.

https://www.nhs.uk/conditions/vaccinations/flu-influenza-vaccine/

[tigger123]

5 minutes ago, parsonjack said:

She probably paid for it mid-November, rather than getting it for free which I think came in from 1st December for over 50s.

 

5 minutes ago, crazyfool1 said:

I did think they were offered in a priority list ... I know several over 50s who have just been offered them .... I think thats to ensure that the people need them most got them they didnt run out ..... Not sure what happened with your mum though ...

 

4 minutes ago, Copperface said:

People aged 50 and over

From 1 December, the NHS flu vaccination is available for everyone aged 50 and over. You can get vaccinated at your GP surgery or a pharmacy offering a flu vaccine service.

https://www.nhs.uk/conditions/vaccinations/flu-influenza-vaccine/

I don’t think she paid for it but will ask her next time I speak to her, as probably won’t be seeing her for a few months!!

[Crazyfool01]

They are now going to be pumping so much effort into this vaccine effort ... what will slow it down will be vaccine availability .... they will go all out on this now .... getting us out of tier 4 lockdowns will be top priority if it wasnt already 

[Toilet Duck]

Numbers spiralling in Ireland...reckon we’ll be shut down again sharpish! 

[Lizzim]

I got my seasonal flu jab in Scotland last week. The call was for the over 60s, the next round for the 50 something's is January.  However my younger husband came with me and they didn't blink an eye about giving him it too.   We waited an hour in the queue, the surnames with an M being particularly frequent in Edinburgh.

[Waterdeep]

Would an increase in infectiousness mean a higher viral load?

[Ryan1984]

6 minutes ago, crazyfool1 said:

They are now going to be pumping so much effort into this vaccine effort ... what will slow it down will be vaccine availability .... they will go all out on this now .... getting us out of tier 4 lockdowns will be top priority if it wasnt already 

Seems so much hinges on the Oxford approval. If it comes just after Christmas as rumoured, I’d expect it to be all systems go come week beginning 4 January?

[Copperface]

2 minutes ago, Ryan1984 said:

Seems so much hinges on the Oxford approval. If it comes just after Christmas as rumoured, I’d expect it to be all systems go come week beginning 4 January?

Fingers crossed that would be great. From a standing start would take a few weeks to wind up to full capacity though. They are still trying to recruit vaccinators so need training etc. A lot depends on supplies and staffing.

Of course it's not like there is anything else due to happen in the next 11 days that might cause disruption in the country is there?

[Crazyfool01]

2 minutes ago, Copperface said:

Fingers crossed that would be great. From a standing start would take a few weeks to wind up to full capacity though. They are still trying to recruit vaccinators so need training etc. A lot depends on supplies and staffing.

Of course it's not like there is anything else due to happen in the next 11 days that might cause disruption in the country is there?

oxford vaccine is ready to go (nearly ) isn't it ?  possibly going to be some issues getting Pfizer .... what other issues might we have with brexit in terms of vaccine rollout ? 

[Billy Corgan's Ego]

Today's increase in London and SE is scary.

Think the Tories may have actually been telling the truth yesterday for the first time during this pandemic...

This is going to be a really rough ride for the next few months. 

[RobertProsineckisLighter]

2 minutes ago, Billy Corgan's Ego said:

Today's increase in London and SE is scary.

Think the Tories may have actually been telling the truth yesterday for the first time during this pandemic...

This is going to be a really rough ride for the next few months. 

It's going to be interesting to see what the hospitalisation rate is down there with this new strain.

[oneeye]

[Crazyfool01]

5 minutes ago, Billy Corgan's Ego said:

Today's increase in London and SE is scary.

Think the Tories may have actually been telling the truth yesterday for the first time during this pandemic...

This is going to be a really rough ride for the next few months. 

yep ... look at these increases 😞 

 

[Fuzzy Afro]

31 minutes ago, Toilet Duck said:

Numbers spiralling in Ireland...reckon we’ll be shut down again sharpish! 

Anything to do with the new Covid-20: Dartford sniffles variant? Or good old Covid-19?

[Toilet Duck]

8 minutes ago, Fuzzy Afro said:

Anything to do with the new Covid-20: Dartford sniffles variant? Or good old Covid-19?

We probably do have the new variant here, but hospitality reopened here a few weeks ago (household visits only started again on Friday). When schools were open but pubs/restaurants were closed, we dropped down to the lowest infection rate in Europe. Open them up again, infection rate increases massively within a few weeks. Cases per 100,000 in the 19-44 age group had dropped hugely when everything was closed, now it’s the biggest group that infections are occurring in. It’s really not rocket science to figure out what’s driving it. 
 

edit: I’m not having a go by the way, folk are only doing what they are being told they are allowed to. 

Edited December 20, 2020 by Toilet Duck

[Copperface]

32 minutes ago, crazyfool1 said:

oxford vaccine is ready to go (nearly ) isn't it ?  possibly going to be some issues getting Pfizer .... what other issues might we have with brexit in terms of vaccine rollout ? 

Anything is possible:

https://ukandeu.ac.uk/brexit-and-the-covid-19-vaccine/

For vaccines made within the UK, including at least some of the AstraZeneca/Oxford product, there are even more complex issues.

Firms like AstraZeneca tend to use ‘regional’ supply chains, with Europe including the UK being one of those regions, reliant on components and products being shipped back and forth.

If any of these products or the products needed to produce them – which may not be recognised as medical supplies eligible for special routes – are delayed, there may be knock on effects which are difficult to predict.

[zahidf]