Ozanne Posted September 12, 2020 Report Share Posted September 12, 2020 They’ve said that they won’t. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eFestivals Posted September 12, 2020 Report Share Posted September 12, 2020 5 minutes ago, Gilgamesh69 said: Surely they should announce an extension to the furlough scheme soon? Other countries have If they're going to extend it, it's not going to be announced until October I reckon, to try and slim the numbers down. It might also just be for particular sectors. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chapple12345 Posted September 12, 2020 Report Share Posted September 12, 2020 https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-54129158 So basically expect the rules to change within the month then Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zahidf Posted September 12, 2020 Report Share Posted September 12, 2020 Interested in toilet ducks view on this: that masks and social distancing means a lower dose of Covid and therefore less symptoms https://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-8700927/Why-Covid-death-rates-low-cases-soaring.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fuzzy Afro Posted September 12, 2020 Report Share Posted September 12, 2020 1 hour ago, squirrelarmy said: I don’t understand this logic. Surely it’s better to have something lined up in case? If you can get out early and take voluntary redundancy you can usually get a better package and if you’re going straight into a new job then even better. I can understand not telling your company you’re thinking of leaving until the new job is confirmed and having something you can turn down if redundancy doesn’t happen is better than being made redundant then having to compete with your former work colleagues for the same limited roles out there. 1 hour ago, zahidf said: Yeah, you should 100% send out CVs and get another job lined up 1 hour ago, Ozanne said: Yeah I’d have thought this was the better way of doing it too. If you get another job you’re considered to have left voluntarily so you don’t get a pay out. Would strongly advise waiting to get the juicy payout first Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fuzzy Afro Posted September 12, 2020 Report Share Posted September 12, 2020 Poll shows an overwhelming majority of boomers blame rising infections on the young... bring on the second wave 😂 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toilet Duck Posted September 12, 2020 Report Share Posted September 12, 2020 (edited) 30 minutes ago, zahidf said: Interested in toilet ducks view on this: that masks and social distancing means a lower dose of Covid and therefore less symptoms https://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-8700927/Why-Covid-death-rates-low-cases-soaring.html I’m sure it plays some role. Viral load has been recognised for sometime as one of a number of determinants of more serious disease (age, obesity and a range of co-morbidities also contribute). Fewer contacts reduces the rate the numbers grow, smaller infectious dose due to social distancing and mask wearing might contribute to less severe disease. It’s difficult to draw firm conclusions, countries where masks were the norm at the outset suffered much lower fatality rates, but also have had more recent outbreaks of related CoVs...I’d expect it’s a combination of factors and reducing the amount of virus close contacts are exposed to probably contributes. A lot of infections though are coming from household clusters, where masks aren’t worn, so it can’t explain reduced severity on its own. Seroprevalence studies suggest 18-24 was the most frequently infected age group back in the spring as well, so what’s changed? Better protection of high risk individuals certainly (we aren’t discharging COVID patients back into care homes without testing them anymore), maybe greater underlying immunity, definitely better testing (numbers now not comparable to back in spring) and, I expect, other factors...the grim assessment is that with better testing, our hospitalisation rate is consistent with the first phase, we just have way lower numbers of infection (but are counting more accurately)..the optimistic assessment is that all of the above is contributing to reducing the severity of the disease...time will tell! Edited September 12, 2020 by Toilet Duck Typos! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fatyeti24 Posted September 12, 2020 Report Share Posted September 12, 2020 If young people voted Conservative then they wouldn't be getting blamed as much. It's their own fault. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eFestivals Posted September 12, 2020 Report Share Posted September 12, 2020 2 minutes ago, fatyeti24 said: If young people voted Conservative then they wouldn't be getting blamed as much. It's their own fault. Spaffer promised Christmas. If we're not getting it someone has to take the blame - and it will never be him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
squirrelarmy Posted September 12, 2020 Report Share Posted September 12, 2020 5 minutes ago, eFestivals said: Spaffer promised Christmas. If we're not getting it someone has to take the blame - and it will never be him. I don’t want the thought of Spaffer emptying his sack 🤮 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ace56blaa Posted September 12, 2020 Report Share Posted September 12, 2020 33 minutes ago, squirrelarmy said: I don’t want the thought of Spaffer emptying his sack 🤮 Maybe he should give the sack to Cummings instead Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
efcfanwirral Posted September 12, 2020 Report Share Posted September 12, 2020 I'm going to enjoy watching the football this next couple of weekends (I know its not important and shit and fans are hooligans but its something to do...) - I've got a feeling we have about 6 weeks of it before it gets stopped again. They're all getting tested regularly but soon the only way to stop loads catching it will be isolating them from their families and the rest of society, which obviously only works for a couple of weeks tournament not a whole season. Probably being ambitious to be fair - first cancelled games due to positive test next week or the week after is more likely.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt42 Posted September 12, 2020 Report Share Posted September 12, 2020 1 hour ago, Fuzzy Afro said: Poll shows an overwhelming majority of boomers blame rising infections on the young... bring on the second wave 😂 Yeah my dad has fully fallen for the “it’s these Youngsters” crap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steviewevie Posted September 12, 2020 Report Share Posted September 12, 2020 10 minutes ago, Matt42 said: Yeah my dad has fully fallen for the “it’s these Youngsters” crap. millenials vs boomers. Endgame. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stuartbert two hats Posted September 12, 2020 Report Share Posted September 12, 2020 (edited) Oxford vaccine trials are back on! https://covid19vaccinetrial.co.uk/trial-resumes Edited September 12, 2020 by stuartbert two hats Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crazyfool01 Posted September 12, 2020 Report Share Posted September 12, 2020 5 minutes ago, stuartbert two hats said: Oxford vaccine trials are back on! https://covid19vaccinetrial.co.uk/trial-resumes link doesnt work but yay Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stuartbert two hats Posted September 12, 2020 Report Share Posted September 12, 2020 7 minutes ago, crazyfool1 said: link doesnt work but yay https://covid19vaccinetrial.co.uk/trial-resumes Works for me? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crazyfool01 Posted September 12, 2020 Report Share Posted September 12, 2020 2 minutes ago, stuartbert two hats said: https://covid19vaccinetrial.co.uk/trial-resumes Works for me? thats odd ... not working on desktop or phone ill seek it out though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stuartbert two hats Posted September 12, 2020 Report Share Posted September 12, 2020 5 minutes ago, crazyfool1 said: thats odd ... not working on desktop or phone ill seek it out though Here you go: University of Oxford resumes vaccine trial The ongoing randomised controlled clinical trials of the Oxford coronavirus vaccine ChAdOx1 nCoV-19 will resume across all UK clinical trial sites. Globally some 18,000 individuals have received study vaccines as part of the trial. In large trials such as this, it is expected that some participants will become unwell and every case must be carefully evaluated to ensure careful assessment of safety. On Sunday [06/09/2020] our standard review process triggered a study pause to vaccination across all of our global trials to allow the review of safety data by an independent safety review committee, and the national regulators. All routine follow-up appointments continued as normal during this period. The independent review process has concluded and following the recommendations of both the independent safety review committee and the UK regulator, the MHRA, the trials will recommence in the UK. We cannot disclose medical information about the illness for reasons of participant confidentiality. We are committed to the safety of our participants and the highest standards of conduct in our studies and will continue to monitor safety closely. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeanoL Posted September 12, 2020 Report Share Posted September 12, 2020 3 hours ago, Fuzzy Afro said: If you get another job you’re considered to have left voluntarily so you don’t get a pay out. Would strongly advise waiting to get the juicy payout first Well the juiciness of the payout depends how long you've been there - most places will only be doing statutory as they're making redundancies for mostly financial reasons, so it's a week's pay for every year you have been there for most people. As long as your new job starts after any redundancy consultation period, you still get the payout, even if you go straight into another job the next day. But if you have to hand in your notice instead you wouldn't get it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fuzzy Afro Posted September 12, 2020 Report Share Posted September 12, 2020 37 minutes ago, stuartbert two hats said: Oxford vaccine trials are back on! https://covid19vaccinetrial.co.uk/trial-resumes Oxford, Moderna and Sinovac seems like the front runners atm, but I have a question for any vaccine experts. Suppose Oxford wins the race and the others are close to completion, does that mean Oxford can patent Covid-19 vaccines and the others have to stop trials? Or could we conceivably have multiple different vaccines that are effective against coronavirus? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stuartbert two hats Posted September 12, 2020 Report Share Posted September 12, 2020 (edited) 36 minutes ago, Fuzzy Afro said: Oxford, Moderna and Sinovac seems like the front runners atm, but I have a question for any vaccine experts. Suppose Oxford wins the race and the others are close to completion, does that mean Oxford can patent Covid-19 vaccines and the others have to stop trials? Or could we conceivably have multiple different vaccines that are effective against coronavirus? They're using different techniques, so no. You patent an implementation, not an idea. You can't patent the concept of a COVID-19 vaccine. Edit: so, yes we're likely to end up with more than one effective vaccine in the end. Which ones will make it is another question, it might be one that's not that far ahead yet. Edited September 12, 2020 by stuartbert two hats Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crazyfool01 Posted September 12, 2020 Report Share Posted September 12, 2020 Just had this posted in my work fb group ... I think they might be listening .... and my email to the exec might have prompted something ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crazyfool01 Posted September 12, 2020 Report Share Posted September 12, 2020 Today’s numbers looks like an increase in tests and cases ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steviewevie Posted September 12, 2020 Report Share Posted September 12, 2020 Fauci says US life won’t return to normal until deep into 2021 https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/sep/11/covid-19-fauci-us-life-coronavirus-vaccine Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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