When will this shit end?

[steviewevie]

1 hour ago, Matt42 said:

Is it bad to say that i want to take the AstraZeneca vaccine over the others? I want a BRITISH made vaccine which is made with OUR LAWS by BRITISH universities? 🇬🇧 

we don't want them lot coming over here...

[Guest]

 

[steviewevie]

59 minutes ago, Matt42 said:

Ah I see - sorry gave a read again. Yeah selling to third world countries at a profit isn’t great, but I wonder if there will be alternative efforts deployed to get the vaccine to citizens who can’t pay

There's this...

https://www.gavi.org/covax-facility

[fraybentos1]

I wonder how many jags they can do per week when they get going!!! Hopefully a couple million which would mean that after 12 weeks, 24 million people have their first one.

That would surely put a huge dent in deaths etc as that covers the initial most vulnerable groups I think!!!

[xxialac]

The Lords constitution committee has said that the timetable to assess the new bill is hardly what people were promised in the referendum:

"A prominent argument for the UK leaving the European Union was to “take back control” of our laws—for laws to be determined by the UK parliament rather than the EU’s law-making bodies ...

It is regrettable that this bill, which determines how the UK’s future relationship with the EU will be implemented in UK law, was published less than 24 hours before parliamentary scrutiny was due to begin. This does not allow parliament much in the way of ‘control’. At the very least, it leaves open the question as to where, or to whom, the control taken back rests."

[Guest]

We really need a full lockdown now to get on top of the surging cases and struggling hospitals. I hope the government do the right thing here and the Brexit trade deal isn’t a distraction. 

[eFestivals]

1 minute ago, fraybentos1 said:

That would surely put a huge dent in deaths etc

will hopefully put a huge dent in transmission rates as well.

Whether the vaccine stops transmission is the big unknown at the mo. If it does then things will look great by the spring.

[eFestivals]

1 minute ago, Ozanne said:

We really need a full lockdown now to get on top of the surging cases and struggling hospitals. I hope the government do the right thing here and the Brexit trade deal isn’t a distraction. 

a lockdown over new year will suit them big-time for brexit, as it'll lessen traffic thru dover.

I've been predicting that lockdown for a while!

[steviewevie]

A lot of news today...vaccines, lockdowns, brexit...it's all going on.

[Ryan1984]

30 minutes ago, Ozanne said:

I see Matt Hancock has reappeared for the first time in a week now we have some good news. It wasn’t worth his time when we were seeing 50k new cases and hospitals struggling to cope. 

I’m sure the prime minister will show up later as well.

[steviewevie]

My Mum, who turns 90 tomorrow, still hasn't been contacted about pfizer vaccine, so maybe her best chance is the oxford one...

[Guest]

1 minute ago, steviewevie said:

My Mum, who turns 90 tomorrow, still hasn't been contacted about pfizer vaccine, so maybe her best chance is the oxford one...

My Gran is 95 in a care home and they have said they won’t be getting any vaccine till February. 

[Mr.Tease]

1 hour ago, xxialac said:

Kudos to Astrazeneca.

I think it's disgusting that Pfizer and Moderna make a profit given what is at stake here. Not sure how their execs sleep at night.

They make a great profit on everything else. For once, just for once and for the good of the vaccine reachest the greatest number of people, they should sell it at cost (fine to factor in all their previous R&D costs).

Pfizer at least didn't take grant money for R&D so took a risk in its development.

Moderna however did and having benefited from that, now they want to sell at the highest price. Shameful really. As an absolute bare minimum they should all sell it to the third world at cost.

Yep, it's like charging extra for water during a raging fire--just try being a human being for once. 

[Andre91]

1 hour ago, Matt42 said:

Is it bad to say that i want to take the AstraZeneca vaccine over the others? I want a BRITISH made vaccine which is made with OUR LAWS by BRITISH universities? 🇬🇧 

Gammon comment. 

[Guest]

The Brexit Trade Deal debate is about to start in the Commons:

 

[Homer]

19 minutes ago, eFestivals said:

a lockdown over new year will suit them big-time for brexit, as it'll lessen traffic thru dover.

I've been predicting that lockdown for a while!

I understand that the Brexit deal didn't secure frictionless trade. Surely this means more border chaos from 1 Jan? Been looking around and can't find much on this, when it seems to be quite a big/obvious problem (I could be wrong - obviously).

[topmarksbri]

1 minute ago, Ozanne said:

The Brexit Trade Deal debate is about to start in the Commons:

 

Has there ever been a HoC vote which had 100% for/against? I'm trying to find online but nothing seems to be coming up. 

[Guest]

Just now, topmarksbri said:

Has there ever been a HoC vote which had 100% for/against? I'm trying to find online but nothing seems to be coming up. 

I doubt it but I could be wrong. 

[Bovla]

2 minutes ago, topmarksbri said:

Has there ever been a HoC vote which had 100% for/against? I'm trying to find online but nothing seems to be coming up. 

Not sure there would have been any point getting to the division lobby stage of the vote. Would just get passed by everyone shouting aye

[Homer]

There's a lot going on here!

[charlierc]

25 minutes ago, steviewevie said:

A lot of news today...vaccines, lockdowns, brexit...it's all going on.

And to think usually the week between Christmas and New Year is usually a super quiet news-free time. Can't even have that this time.

[Matt42]

12 minutes ago, Andre91 said:

Gammon comment. 

As above

[bamber]

For two more days this was last year.

It is easy to forget what this feels like.

IT IS EASY TO FORGET HOW GOOD THIS FEELS!!!

Lizzo in full swing and the Glastonbury crowd fully looning out as they should and as they will.

God I miss this!

 

[Guest]

9 minutes ago, Homer said:

There's a lot going on here!

In theory they should be livid at the government as they are the ones that have shut schools once and might do again!? Or are they conveniently missing that point!?

[funkychick2007]

1 hour ago, parsonjack said:

Can someone nip round and wake up @crazyfool1?

Doesn’t he do an early 5am start on some work shifts!!