When will this shit end?

[Euphoricape]

It does sound crazy, to open up just for a week then have to close again. Also, surely pubs will be absolutely rammed given its Christmas on top. Bunch of jokers.

[jparx]

Jesus Christ that plan is abysmal. Surely that can’t be what they’ve been cooking up?

Shops and restaurants need to be open for the run up to Christmas if they’re going to get any benefit. If that can’t happen, just keep everything closed. 

Edited November 21, 2020 by jparx

[squirrelarmy]

Just spoke to a friend of mine about it who manages a restaurant in a well known national chain so she knows what she’s talking about. 
 

[Guest]

The madness of having people go to pubs etc then round to the family for Christmas Day.

[parsonjack]

2 hours ago, RobertProsineckisLighter said:

More importantly why are garden centres allowed to open?

The health benefits of gardening, both mental and physical, probably have something to do with it.

[stuartbert two hats]

At least they're not planning to throw all the doors open as soon as lockdown finishes. I'm not going out until I have that sweet spike in my vein though.

[fatyeti24]

54 minutes ago, Euphoricape said:

https://metro.co.uk/2020/11/21/christmas-plans-to-allow-families-to-mix-to-be-announced-next-week-13631748/

Everything stays shut until 22nd December then closing again 28th..?? Chancellor wants pubs and restaurants open from 22nd to 28th December along with household mixing. Statement coming Monday possibly.. 

As mentioned above, this is just daft.  We were planning to reopen on the 28th (we always close at Xmas as we don't do food and there are usually few options around here that do for 25th/26th), so I suppose I'll now be refunding the one booking I've taken since the end of summer who were due to come on NYE.

Our reopening costs are not huge, but the time in getting the whole place cleaned and ready are pretty big, plus delivery times for linens are going to be big as everyone will need supplies for the same date.  But we wouldn't open on those dates anyway, so it's moot I suppose.

[steviewevie]

1 hour ago, Fuzzy Afro said:

https://news.sky.com/story/covid-19-how-englands-lockdown-leak-created-surge-of-social-activity-that-may-have-spread-the-virus-12137501
 

 

Data showing a big spike in movement between the lockdown announcement and it coming into force. 

next time they should do it without any warning...like 1 minute to midnight on xmas eve.

[Fuzzy Afro]

6 minutes ago, steviewevie said:

next time they should do it without any warning...like 1 minute to midnight on xmas eve.

Not possible with our legal system 

[Guest]

19 minutes ago, fatyeti24 said:

As mentioned above, this is just daft.  We were planning to reopen on the 28th (we always close at Xmas as we don't do food and there are usually few options around here that do for 25th/26th), so I suppose I'll now be refunding the one booking I've taken since the end of summer who were due to come on NYE.

Our reopening costs are not huge, but the time in getting the whole place cleaned and ready are pretty big, plus delivery times for linens are going to be big as everyone will need supplies for the same date.  But we wouldn't open on those dates anyway, so it's moot I suppose.

Sorry to ask a stupid question but what type of things are included in reopening costs?

[Crazyfool01]

whats the odds on a delay for todays figures ....

[Crazyfool01]

no delay .....

[priest17]

38 minutes ago, steviewevie said:

next time they should do it without any warning...like 1 minute to midnight on xmas eve.

They should do this with opening again, like the Glastonbury secret resales. Give people an incentive to go running so they're ready to leg it to their local.

[Crazyfool01]

2 minutes ago, priest17 said:

They should do this with opening again, like the Glastonbury secret resales. Give people an incentive to go running so they're ready to leg it to their local.

the people in our wetherspoons are probably already there .... they dont seem to move .... 

[philipsteak]

2 hours ago, Fuzzy Afro said:

https://news.sky.com/story/covid-19-how-englands-lockdown-leak-created-surge-of-social-activity-that-may-have-spread-the-virus-12137501
 

 

Data showing a big spike in movement between the lockdown announcement and it coming into force. 

Purely anecdotal I know but I saw that happening before my eyes. We went from pretty quiet to almost full for those last couple of days. And completely full on the final night. The bookings started right after the announcement. 

[priest17]

1 minute ago, crazyfool1 said:

the people in our wetherspoons are probably already there .... they dont seem to move .... 

I maintain that every spoons across the country has the same 8 old men at the front of them

[stuartbert two hats]

8 minutes ago, crazyfool1 said:

no delay .....

Every time we do a lockdown it feels like the numbers won't come down. And then they always do. Yesterday wasn't a blip, I'm feeling confident to say we now have a nationwide downwards trend.

I know that's not happening everywhere, but they will, keep the faith.

[Crazyfool01]

1 minute ago, priest17 said:

I maintain that every spoons across the country has the same 8 old men at the front of them

its the old men at the front  

[eFestivals]

2 hours ago, crazyfool1 said:

do you go to the gym ? have u ever been to the gym ? there is also lots that cant be done without .... It isn't quite so black and white ...... but overall at the moment I think they are best kept closed ..... its a choice yes .... but its a choice that prevents people exercising which is the point .... 

N, the point is that gyms being closed does not stop anyone exercising.

It is your choice to stop exercising.

[Crazyfool01]

9 minutes ago, stuartbert two hats said:

Every time we do a lockdown it feels like the numbers won't come down. And then they always do. Yesterday wasn't a blip, I'm feeling confident to say we now have a nationwide downwards trend.

I know that's not happening everywhere, but they will, keep the faith.

yep and actually its far more important that the higher numbers areas drop off first ... thats going to cause the major issues with health services ... we have 12 days left of this lockdown and the infections will drop for a few days after that too i would think .... some positive signs there for sure    

[shoptildrop]

1 hour ago, steviewevie said:

next time they should do it without any warning...like 1 minute to midnight on xmas eve.

A bit like the Tier 2 decision for Manchester on the eve of EID end of July, 9.30pm announcement via twitter by Hancock going into effect at midnight... 

This open for a week sounds nuts plan and what they doing about retail?

Edited November 21, 2020 by shoptildrop

[Crazyfool01]

3 minutes ago, shoptildrop said:

This open for a week sounds nuts plan and what they doing about retail?

surely that has to reopen ..... please   

[steviewevie]

I think gov should send out a tweet xmas eve night just before midnight saying "fuck you suckers, we're locking you down"/

[shoptildrop]

1 minute ago, steviewevie said:

I think gov should send out a tweet xmas eve night just before midnight saying "fuck you suckers, we're locking you down"/

They have form on this sort of thing  

[JoeyT]

41 minutes ago, eFestivals said:

N, the point is that gyms being closed does not stop anyone exercising.

It is your choice to stop exercising.

This is true to an extent if you are talking about exercising as a generic thing but there are activities that sit within it such as swimming that can’t be done at home.

It’s easy to say go out for a run but something like swimming which is non weight bearing is what some have to do by necessity due to injuries for instance.

I’m not bothered massively by gyms closing because I have been able to purchase my own equipment and can go outside to run but not everyone is in the same boat.