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Glastonbury 2020 Cancelled - I am sorry to be the bearer of this news.


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With pretty much everything cancelled this year, no pubs, cinemas, no travel etc 2 things are guaranteed this year, divorce rates will go up as couples spend way too much time together, and birth rates will go up as couples spend too much time together with nothing much else to do.

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4 minutes ago, Cream Soda said:

I have a genuine question, please don't shout at me for being all negative or trying to scaremonger, I'm genuinely not I just need this explaining to me:

What will have changed by next year?  By all accounts a vaccine won't be available by then,  will it just be the fact that more people will have caught it by then and so built up immunity?  How is that going to happen if we're barely mixing with others?  I'm so confused, someone please reassure me! 

There is absolutely no certainty that it will be over by 2021, but there's a decent chance that a vaccine will be rolling out in 12 months time. Herd immunity may well have been established by then too if a) enough people get it, and b) getting it once immunizes you.  Even with social distancing, people will still get it, but the idea is to greatly slow that spread so that the health services are not overwhelmed.

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6 minutes ago, Cream Soda said:

I have a genuine question, please don't shout at me for being all negative or trying to scaremonger, I'm genuinely not I just need this explaining to me:

What will have changed by next year?  By all accounts a vaccine won't be available by then,  will it just be the fact that more people will have caught it by then and so built up immunity?  How is that going to happen if we're barely mixing with others?  I'm so confused, someone please reassure me! 

we won't have full (80-ish% +) herd immunity by then, but a fair number will have had it so in theory there'll be far fewer people spreading around, and far fewer people able to catch it.

So even in the worst case scenario the impact on the NHS shouldn't be anywhere near as severe as it's going to be in the near future.

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13 minutes ago, circus92 said:

Exactly - I would be very happy to do this. They could keep the £50 as a ticket holding fee, and then you pay your deposit again. Even if 100,000 out of the 130,000 were to rollover this would provide a kitty of £5 million to distribute to the charity's and anyone out of pocket so far.

Sign me up 

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Gutted its cancelled, so pleased for those who have tickets and they are rolled over, will be there hammering away for anyone that's wants to go in 2021

Personally just want to hear about whats happening to our volunteer places - and if they will be carried forward . on another note I now have 18 days holiday back.(and nothing to do with it ) - roll on the end of the summer when maybe we can all come out and its worth having leave :-)

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1 minute ago, Cream Soda said:

@maelzoid @eFestivals Thanks for the explanation.  With the old and vulnerable on lockdown for 12 weeks would it not make sense for the fit and healthy to mingle now while they are shielded?  Would that not result in fewer hospitalisations than locking down everyone and then having everyone mix again at some point in the future?  

yeah that's the part I don't understand either :-(

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2 minutes ago, eFestivals said:

we won't have full (80-ish% +) herd immunity by then, but a fair number will have had it so in theory there'll be far fewer people spreading around, and far fewer people able to catch it.

So even in the worst case scenario the impact on the NHS shouldn't be anywhere near as severe as it's going to be in the near future.

Plus, we will almost certainly have antivirals, more respirators and generally be much more able to tackle the thing.

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29 minutes ago, Cream Soda said:

@maelzoid @eFestivals Thanks for the explanation.  With the old and vulnerable on lockdown for 12 weeks would it not make sense for the fit and healthy to mingle now while they are shielded?  Would that not result in fewer hospitalisations than locking down everyone and then having everyone mix again at some point in the future?  

Not according to the models.  That was the government's plan when modelling the virus with influenza like properties, but once they plugged in the data from China + Italy, it turned out to kill far more people that way.  The under 70s are not immune, sadly.

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3 minutes ago, Cream Soda said:

@maelzoid @eFestivals Thanks for the explanation.  With the old and vulnerable on lockdown for 12 weeks would it not make sense for the fit and healthy to mingle now while they are shielded?  Would that not result in fewer hospitalisations than locking down everyone and then having everyone mix again at some point in the future?  

that would still create too many cases right now. In Spain 40% of the detected cases are in hospital.

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Just dropped the phone call to my fiancé that our wedding is officially cancelled/postponed/fallow

 

We were getting registered in quiet at home, in just our normal clothes on the Monday. 
 

Then we were having the ceremony at Glasto on the Saturday, she was vowing to wear her dress in as much mud as possible 😆

 

Shes upset , it’s not the end of the world, will be fine but what a grim phone call to have to make telling a girl her wedding is off 

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Think this is the right call as much as it's heartbreaking. Media would have no doubt slammed them if they proceeded. Doesn't sound like the build of the festival was feasible too. Was a lot more down about this news last night, the red wine certainly helped and feeling a bit better today. So relieved the tickets are rolled over. Bring on 2021!!!

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10 minutes ago, Cream Soda said:

I wonder how many of them are not in the vulnerable group.  Any idea?

no idea, sorry .... but Spain's numbers suggest that testing isn't very widespread (not as much as some other places) so it's quite possible only the more-severe cases are being tested which then leads to 40% being in hospital.

But to give that some perspective, that 40% is about 4,000 in number. The NHS only has 4,000 ICU beds as standard. 
(it's been said that UK critical care beds can be ramped up to around 15-20,000, but we'll have to see how that pans out in reality. For starters it means booting out many of the people currently in hospital, and lots [oldies] are in there because there's not the care available for them out of hospital).

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18 minutes ago, Dannyjohn said:

So.... if I want to go in 2021, when does the full balance have to be paid?... (thinking of buying some furniture with my glasto mo ey to cheer myself up!)

I don't know for sure but I would guess April 2021. They are giving people until September this year to get their deposits back if they don't want to go in 2021 so I assume they'll do a normal October sale (£50 deposit) of all the returned tickets, with all balances due in the April before the festival as usual.

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18 minutes ago, Waynolol said:

Just dropped the phone call to my fiancé that our wedding is officially cancelled/postponed/fallow

 

We were getting registered in quiet at home, in just our normal clothes on the Monday. 
 

Then we were having the ceremony at Glasto on the Saturday, she was vowing to wear her dress in as much mud as possible 😆

 

Shes upset , it’s not the end of the world, will be fine but what a grim phone call to have to make telling a girl her wedding is off 

I'm getting married the weekend before and Glasto was supposed to be our mini-moon.  Fingers crossed our wedding still goes ahead! 

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1 minute ago, DareToDibble said:

I don't know for sure but I would guess April 2021. They are giving people until September this year to get their deposits back if they don't want to go in 2021 so I assume they'll do a normal October sale (£50 deposit) of all the returned tickets, with all balances due in the April before the festival as usual.

Yeah I'm struggling to understand how this gives us current non-holders much of a better chance. There'll be a load of coverage and probably way *less* chance than an April resale surely?

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39 minutes ago, Cream Soda said:

I have a genuine question, please don't shout at me for being all negative or trying to scaremonger, I'm genuinely not I just need this explaining to me:

What will have changed by next year?  By all accounts a vaccine won't be available by then,  will it just be the fact that more people will have caught it by then and so built up immunity?  How is that going to happen if we're barely mixing with others?  I'm so confused, someone please reassure me! 

Less of this please, we can’t be thinking about anymore potential cancellations than this current one. 

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I haven't been on here much recently. There have been a variety of personal reasons, but 1 of them has been - I couldn't see the festival being on.  Glastonbury is a massive part of lots of people's lives (myself included) but I didn't even check the line up out last week. It's been today that I have fully gone through it. The cancellation was inevitable. I am not sad today, if anything it was a bit of closure on it all. My mates were adamant, even up until today "it'll be on". I was a "pessimistic bastard" - but it was pretty obvious for the last fortnight really.

The economic landscape of the world could be incredibly different in 12 months, so £250 for a festival may not be viable for a lot of people. The world could look quite different when the next festival rolls around. It could well have been my last Glastonbury already, which is pretty upsetting to think about. I had decided 2020 was my last as I'd like to see a bit of the world and do other things. Over the last few months I have had a couple of personal issues that I am working through - and maybe it's time to hang up my festival walking boots for good now?

I am keeping my 2021 ticket valid, but I at this point don't think it'll be there.

The festival will be back though. Keep the faith!

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1 minute ago, TheFullShaboo said:

So are we thinking that the majority of UK festivals this season will now follow suit and cancel regardless of what month? Our groups looking at booking another festival to compensate for Glasto but now its got us thinking that they may go the same way....

In thinking everything up to end of june cancels very soon. July/August will wait until end of april before following suit.

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