2021 Headliners

[CaledonianGonzo]

Well then - Rolling Stone Magazine has just lost its credibility!

[SwedgeAntilles]

Seems like the only way to settle this is with a eFests Greatest Albums of All Time Lists thread 👀

[CaledonianGonzo]

Will just be a repeat of an average day on the Radiohead thread.

[MEGABOWL]

On 9/21/2020 at 12:40 PM, Matt42 said:

I love how we can’t talk honestly about a bands popularity without pissing off the stans. We have to apologise for talking facts.

That has not happened here at all. It’s a discussion.

[MEGABOWL]

7 hours ago, Zacko said:

Never knew What's Going On was made so quickly! Absolute stunner of an album.

Disintegration needs to be higher IMO. 

Edit - Just saw Aquemini in at 49, beautiful stuff! 

Disintegration is crazy low 

[Tuna]

19 hours ago, Ddiamondd said:

Especially as RS have been historically the most slavish supporters, offering 5/5 reviews and magazine covers pro-Bono, they really did fuck their reputation over the last ten years.

lovely stuff.

[Quark]

On 9/23/2020 at 6:37 PM, SwedgeAntilles said:

Seems like the only way to settle this is with a eFests Greatest Albums of All Time Lists thread 👀

Why would you do this?

[CaledonianGonzo]

[Delejayn]

So will they announce this on the usual timeline or will it be adjusted like coming soon? 
 

Also the chance of Kendrick returning is what at the moment?

 

thanks 

[FloorFiller]

9 minutes ago, Delejayn said:

So will they announce this on the usual timeline or will it be adjusted like coming soon? 
 

Also the chance of Kendrick returning is what at the moment?

 

thanks 

More than likely on the usual timeline. They’re in no rush and I doubt they want a repeat of this year in announcing it all and then possibly cancelling again. I’m sure they’ll leave it as late as possible.

Kendrick looking like a pretty good bet at the moment now that he’s announced a European festival the same week as Glastonbury.

[Suprefan]

So we should expect something in 3 weeks then. Will they start by announcing Diana Ross again, or we think Macca.

Edited September 25, 2020 by Suprefan

[Crazyfool01]

Just now, Suprefan said:

So we should expect something in 3 weeks then. Will they start by announcing Diana Ross again, or we think Macca.

I think nothing this side of xmas .... unless we get a vaccine rollout start .... once we get that then they know where they are ...

[Hugh Jass]

45 minutes ago, crazyfool1 said:

I think nothing this side of xmas .... unless we get a vaccine rollout start .... once we get that then they know where they are ...

Agreed, can’t see anything any time soon.

[Suprefan]

Not the best timing for me cause I still have to rebook flights and just hoping the fares actually drop or these covid taxes go away. Not the beat thing when you have to add $1000 onto your fare cause of this.

[eFestivals]

14 hours ago, FloorFiller said:

I doubt they want a repeat of this year in announcing it all and then possibly cancelling again

I think they'll want to announce something even if they do have to cancel again, for similar reasons to why they announced this time when it seemed almost certain they'd have to pull the plug.

It's the only validation of their work for all they'll have put in, and by doing 'this is what you would have had' they demonstrate Glasto as a festival still worth attending (when it's able to happen).

They might as well get the personal and business benefits (even tho they're small) from a bad situation outside of their control.

[Leyrulion]

17 hours ago, Suprefan said:

So we should expect something in 3 weeks then. Will they start by announcing Diana Ross again, or we think Macca.

I wouldn't expect anything until January at the earliest on acts. 

 

 

[lighthouse]

1 hour ago, Leyrulion said:

I wouldn't expect anything until January at the earliest on acts. 

 

 

That’s weird. Where every festival is dropping the lineup much faster, Glasto goes the other direction.
 

Can see 90% of every lineup in Europe being revealed by Xmas. 

[lighthouse]

double post 

Edited September 26, 2020 by lighthouse

[thewayiam]

4 hours ago, eFestivals said:

I think they'll want to announce something even if they do have to cancel again, for similar reasons to why they announced this time when it seemed almost certain they'd have to pull the plug.

It's the only validation of their work for all they'll have put in, and by doing 'this is what you would have had' they demonstrate Glasto as a festival still worth attending (when it's able to happen).

They might as well get the personal and business benefits (even tho they're small) from a bad situation outside of their control.

 

Wanted to cop this in here for your opinion from a friends Facebook post. The person I know is a Film/TV Composer Agent.

 

I don’t know if audience’s really understand how dire the situation is for millions of hard-working professionals.

Broadway is closed until 2021, 6 West End venues THINK they can open at the moment. Cirque du Soleil is filing for bankruptcy and cut 3500+ jobs. Feld Entertainment laid off 90% of its workforce permanently. Live Nation had to lay off a significant amount of employees. Cruise ship entertainers are out of work and theme park productions have no idea when they will be recalled. There are no concerts, festivals or touring productions scheduled until 2021 and if they don’t happen next year, they may never happen again. No Jazz Fest, no Coachella, no Bonnaroo, no EDC, no Glastonbury, no Download, no ROLLING STONES FINAL TOUR(S), no ballet, no opera....all gone.

It’s being predicted that 90% of independent music venues may close, the longer this continues.

Performing arts and music organisations of all kinds- choirs, theatres, orchestras, dance companies , festivals, music venues, not to mention all the technical suppliers and freelancers - all are trying to figure out on a daily basis how to keep going and employ anyone they can in the field.

More than 12,000,000 people work in entertainment production, we are not insignificant and this industry cannot reopen until mass gatherings can happen again.

This doesn’t include the additional layoff of venue management and bar staff, security and thousands of vendors.

So when you see your entertainment friends begging you to wear masks and stay home, understand that we are helplessly watching our industry crumble before our eyes because the country is doing so poorly at reducing the spread. This IS personal for us, our entire livelihood is dependent on social gathering and we will not accept being labeled “nonessential”.

Music and art are critical to a cheerful, balanced society.

Everyone’s career and the whole industry is indefinitely on hold. PLEASE wear your mask (over your mouth AND your nose) and wash your hands.

[Hugh Jass]

7 minutes ago, thewayiam said:

 

Wanted to cop this in here for your opinion from a friends Facebook post. The person I know is a Film/TV Composer Agent.

 

I don’t know if audience’s really understand how dire the situation is for millions of hard-working professionals.

Broadway is closed until 2021, 6 West End venues THINK they can open at the moment. Cirque du Soleil is filing for bankruptcy and cut 3500+ jobs. Feld Entertainment laid off 90% of its workforce permanently. Live Nation had to lay off a significant amount of employees. Cruise ship entertainers are out of work and theme park productions have no idea when they will be recalled. There are no concerts, festivals or touring productions scheduled until 2021 and if they don’t happen next year, they may never happen again. No Jazz Fest, no Coachella, no Bonnaroo, no EDC, no Glastonbury, no Download, no ROLLING STONES FINAL TOUR(S), no ballet, no opera....all gone.

It’s being predicted that 90% of independent music venues may close, the longer this continues.

Performing arts and music organisations of all kinds- choirs, theatres, orchestras, dance companies , festivals, music venues, not to mention all the technical suppliers and freelancers - all are trying to figure out on a daily basis how to keep going and employ anyone they can in the field.

More than 12,000,000 people work in entertainment production, we are not insignificant and this industry cannot reopen until mass gatherings can happen again.

This doesn’t include the additional layoff of venue management and bar staff, security and thousands of vendors.

So when you see your entertainment friends begging you to wear masks and stay home, understand that we are helplessly watching our industry crumble before our eyes because the country is doing so poorly at reducing the spread. This IS personal for us, our entire livelihood is dependent on social gathering and we will not accept being labeled “nonessential”.

Music and art are critical to a cheerful, balanced society.

Everyone’s career and the whole industry is indefinitely on hold. PLEASE wear your mask (over your mouth AND your nose) and wash your hands.

Seen this shared from quite a few people across social media.

They raise some valid points.

[thewayiam]

1 hour ago, Hugh Jass said:

Seen this shared from quite a few people across social media.

They raise some valid points.

I must say I nearly replied to it saying that the Glastonbury owners actually seemed quite sure about 2022 being able to happen even if 2021 couldn't. Dare I say though that we are in a position where festivals almost run on a charity basis like Glastonbury where the fee for acts is much less are less at risk given you essentially either play for peanuts or you don't?

Live Nation is the interesting one as it's the promoter you just don't expect to see in trouble. 

Controversially though I will actually say that I don't exactly agree with the face mask thing. We are reporting cases as high as has ever been now while the face mask law has been in. Social distance from people yes I fully agree but the mask wearing hasn't done anything to help in my opinion because it makes people think that the distancing while wearing them doesn't matter when it's the biggest focal point.

Bars, pubs and restaurants are probably going to have to close again....this whole closing at 10pm is bullshit and everyone knows it. Not even the people who were really on the side of Boris are now. I also think the number of only 6 is a farce too, won't make a different to be whether it's 6, 8 or 10....as long as you are distanced.

[Hugh Jass]

34 minutes ago, thewayiam said:

I must say I nearly replied to it saying that the Glastonbury owners actually seemed quite sure about 2022 being able to happen even if 2021 couldn't. Dare I say though that we are in a position where festivals almost run on a charity basis like Glastonbury where the fee for acts is much less are less at risk given you essentially either play for peanuts or you don't?

Live Nation is the interesting one as it's the promoter you just don't expect to see in trouble. 

Controversially though I will actually say that I don't exactly agree with the face mask thing. We are reporting cases as high as has ever been now while the face mask law has been in. Social distance from people yes I fully agree but the mask wearing hasn't done anything to help in my opinion because it makes people think that the distancing while wearing them doesn't matter when it's the biggest focal point.

Bars, pubs and restaurants are probably going to have to close again....this whole closing at 10pm is bullshit and everyone knows it. Not even the people who were really on the side of Boris are now. I also think the number of only 6 is a farce too, won't make a different to be whether it's 6, 8 or 10....as long as you are distanced.

Hi Ian.

[thewayiam]

35 minutes ago, Hugh Jass said:

Hi Ian.

Ian?. I wear them don't get me wrong but I don't think it's necessarily the answer and the statistics back it up.

[Leyrulion]

2 hours ago, thewayiam said:

if they don’t happen next year, they may never happen again

Agree with the whole post except for this bit. 

To suggest that there will never be opera again is a bit ridiculous. What's likely is that the current operators might not be running them and what's left will be picked up by rich investors looking for a return. (Which to be clear is not a good thing!) But there will definitely be theatres, opera and festivals again we just don't know what year.

[thewayiam]

2 minutes ago, Leyrulion said:

Agree with the whole post except for this bit. 

To suggest that there will never be opera again is a bit ridiculous. What's likely is that the current operators might not be running them and what's left will be picked up by rich investors looking for a return. (Which to be clear is not a good thing!) But there will definitely be theatres, opera and festivals again we just don't know what year.

Agreed. I guess from the stance of someone working within an industry of entertainment it is a worry of that prospect though.