2019 Headliners

[Acid Loafers]

1 minute ago, caballosblancos said:

I’m sure you’ve all talked about this a million times, but what’s a ballpark £ figure for a Pyramid headliner?

https://www.express.co.uk/entertainment/music/817113/Glastonbury-2017-festival-pay-money-bands-singers-Emily-Eavis-wage

Apparently £200k for Coldplay.

[Divein]

6 minutes ago, MetaKate said:

Some solid looking info on macca doing bonnaroo with artic monkeys. 

The info says Macca kept pulling out and then coming back to the table and asking for more, but now hes finally signed. I wonder if he tried to pull the same thing with glasto and they werent having it?

https://m.imgur.com/a/VmULMvY

Jesus, I worry about posting stuff people tell me in passing or might not be true.

Imagine leaking a whole text conversation plus a line up poster.

[eFestivals]

4 minutes ago, caballosblancos said:

I’m sure you’ve all talked about this a million times, but what’s a ballpark £ figure for a Pyramid headliner?

I believe they paid £750k for the stones in the end.

So i'd guess they've maybe paid £500k for someone else along the way.

1 minute ago, Acid Loafers said:

https://www.express.co.uk/entertainment/music/817113/Glastonbury-2017-festival-pay-money-bands-singers-Emily-Eavis-wage

Apparently £200k for Coldplay.

likely to be done on the cheap to some degree, I reckon.

[MetaKate]

3 minutes ago, Divein said:

Jesus, I worry about posting stuff people tell me in passing or might not be true.

Imagine leaking a whole text conversation plus a line up poster.

? at least the person asked if it was ok and was given the go ahead. I would have been like HELL NO.

[strummer77]

18 minutes ago, MetaKate said:

Some solid looking info on macca doing bonnaroo with arctic monkeys. 

The info says Macca kept pulling out and then coming back to the table and asking for more, but now hes finally signed. I wonder if he tried to pull the same thing with glasto and they werent having it?

https://m.imgur.com/a/VmULMvY

Or alternatively, that twitter random's info came from one of the moments his camp were out. He may still be in/in negotiations. Headliners are wrapped up later than this quite often.

Edited November 20, 2018 by strummer77

[Sasperella]

12 minutes ago, MetaKate said:

The info says Macca kept pulling out and then coming back to the table and asking for more, but now hes finally signed. I wonder if he tried to pull the same thing with glasto and they werent having it?

 You would think he was old enough and rich enough not to feel the need to behave like that! Obviously could just all be more baseless gossip, but if your hypothesis were true, I do really hope they told him where to go....

[whitehorses]

@Acid Loafersand @eFestivals Thank you. And wow 

[Acid Loafers]

15 minutes ago, MetaKate said:

Some solid looking info on macca doing bonnaroo with arctic monkeys. 

The info says Macca kept pulling out and then coming back to the table and asking for more, but now hes finally signed. I wonder if he tried to pull the same thing with glasto and they werent having it?

https://m.imgur.com/a/VmULMvY

The Bonnaroo subreddit isn't buying this line-up. Do have to agree that having all of these booked for June does seem a bit early...

One comment does stand out at debunking the line-up. Apparently, the band Zoogma has split and performed their last show back in September so... Who knows what to believe. 

[eFestivals]

2 minutes ago, Sasperella said:

 You would think he was old enough and rich enough not to feel the need to behave like that! Obviously could just all be more baseless gossip, but if your hypothesis were true, I do really hope they told him where to go....

As standard, a manager will be expected to get their act the best deal they can, plus of course their own wage is likely to be a percentage of what they get for the act.

I wouldn't read anything about it onto Macca.

[Guest]

2 minutes ago, Sasperella said:

 You would think he was old enough and rich enough not to feel the need to behave like that!

It'd imagine agents or managers or whoever that do all this stuff rather than Paul himself

[MetaKate]

4 minutes ago, strummer77 said:

Or alternatively, that twitter random's info came from one of the moments his camp were out. He may still be in/in negotiations.

Hopefully!!

4 minutes ago, Sasperella said:

 You would think he was old enough and rich enough not to feel the need to behave like that! Obviously could just all be more baseless gossip, but if your hypothesis were true, I do really hope they told him where to go....

I kind of believe it because the marked poster looks pretty legit..  and it parallels the info we are dealing with... but I have absolutely no idea. 

I think whats happening right now is him trying to line up NA festivals and hes playing the field trying to get as much money as possible... 

I'm just hoping hes still at glasto. 

[Sasperella]

Just now, GETOFFAMYLAWN said:

It'd imagine agents or managers or whoever that do all this stuff rather than Paul himself

Oh yeh, d'uh!

[MetaKate]

10 minutes ago, Acid Loafers said:

The Bonnaroo subreddit isn't buying this line-up. Do have to agree that having all of these booked for June does seem a bit early...

One comment does stand out at debunking the line-up. Apparently, the band Zoogma has split and performed their last show back in September so... Who knows what to believe. 

Subreddits are a dark place ?

If its fake...its the most legit looking fake I've ever seen... someone has way too much time on their hands. 

[Glastocat]

2 hours ago, ghostdancer1 said:

from reading some people on here, you'd think Kasabian and Arcade Fire were unknowns playing to 50 people in pubs when they headlined Glastonbury (see also Mumford and Sons).

Arcade Fire had played multiple arenas on tour here, and already headlined R&L. two UK no.1 albums, and a no.2 album.

Metallica had done multiple arena tours, headlined R&L, Sonisphere, Download, Wembley Stadium...multiple UK no.1 albums.

Kasabian - multiple arenas, headlined R&L, headlined IoW. Four UK no.1 albums, and a no.4 album.

 

The Cure, McCartney and Lady Gaga basically play the same type of gigs here. Stormzy hasn't done anything close to those yet.

 

sure, none of them are Coldplay/Adele/Muse/U2/Ed Sheeran stature regular stadium botherers, multi-million album sellers, but neither are most Glastonbury headliners.

 

there's a lot of rewriting of history on here in general.

 

 

 

Agreed mate. You would think Kasabian were one hit wonders off the Britpop era reading a few of the posts on here.?

I understand that people want a more diverse set of headliners and for EE to not play it safe but Stormzy played the 2017 festival subbing the other stage. Would people think Emili Sande is a good headliner or Lorde? That's without releasing any new material in the time since. Yes I know Stormzy has a second album to come before the festival but know one knows what the reception to that will be like. Hopefully his second album is massive and this booking then looks like a masterstroke.

 

 

[clarkete]

6 minutes ago, Glastocat said:

Agreed mate. You would think Kasabian were one hit wonders off the Britpop era reading a few of the posts on here.?

I understand that people want a more diverse set of headliners and for EE to not play it safe but Stormzy played the 2017 festival subbing the other stage. Would people think Emili Sande is a good headliner or Lorde? That's without releasing any new material in the time since. Yes I know Stormzy has a second album to come before the festival but know one knows what the reception to that will be like. Hopefully his second album is massive and this booking then looks like a masterstroke.

 

 

If not who cares? 

There are pretty much hundreds of other things to see at the same time and they've lost nowt by going for someone new in a headline slot rather than someone they've had before.

In good time this thread will move into the dusty archives and be merely a dark and sordid memory  

[Doug85]

16 minutes ago, Glastocat said:

Agreed mate. You would think Kasabian were one hit wonders off the Britpop era reading a few of the posts on here.?

I understand that people want a more diverse set of headliners and for EE to not play it safe but Stormzy played the 2017 festival subbing the other stage. Would people think Emili Sande is a good headliner or Lorde? That's without releasing any new material in the time since. Yes I know Stormzy has a second album to come before the festival but know one knows what the reception to that will be like. Hopefully his second album is massive and this booking then looks like a masterstroke.

 

 

To be clear my posts were only regarding Kasabian not being a stronger booking than Macca whether individually or as part of a collective set of headliners. They were not one hit wonders but there is no way they would be classed as a stronger booking than Macca. 

[jparx]

11 minutes ago, Glastocat said:

Agreed mate. You would think Kasabian were one hit wonders off the Britpop era reading a few of the posts on here.?

I understand that people want a more diverse set of headliners and for EE to not play it safe but Stormzy played the 2017 festival subbing the other stage. Would people think Emili Sande is a good headliner or Lorde? That's without releasing any new material in the time since. Yes I know Stormzy has a second album to come before the festival but know one knows what the reception to that will be like. Hopefully his second album is massive and this booking then looks like a masterstroke.

 

 

I think there is a definite element of gambling with the Stormzy booking because of that factor. If his second album tanks then the booking could look very silly.

I doubt it will, the guy is on a roll at the minute, but there's a chance. 

With all that being said - I'm chuffed they have taken that gamble. Stormzy isn't my cup of tea, but hopefully this means they start to take more gambles. To be clear - I'm not saying it's a gamble because he isn't big enough, rather it's a tall order to headline off the back of one widely praised album and one TBA.

[Glastocat]

2 minutes ago, clarkete said:

If not who cares? 

There are pretty much hundreds of other things to see at the same time and they've lost nowt by going for someone new in a headline slot rather than someone they've had before.

In good time this thread will move into the dusty archives and be merely a dark and sordid memory  

Aye , you're right that it doesn't really matter and you really do understand that when you've been. Hard to really understand before, especially if you've attended other festivals that are built around the bands and one main stage. I don't do twitter or Facebook but I can imagine some of the ridiculous over reactions to the headliners from people who haven't been. Especially if you tell them Wednesday and Thursday are the best days and only a few bands actually play?.

Let's be honest here, it's what we have to talk about at the minute, so everyone is going to talk about it, and talk about and talk about and maybe post about it also.

Bring on Glasto!

[beau1]

4 hours ago, stuartbert two hats said:

You're right about how white they are.  I don't think Robert Smith has a funky bone in his body.

 

[Glastocat]

2 minutes ago, Doug85 said:

To be clear my posts were only regarding Kasabian not being a stronger booking than Macca whether individually or as part of a collective set of headliners. They were not one hit wonders but there is no way they would be classed as a stronger booking than Macca. 

Yeah, I understood that mate. I was just exaggerating my point to prove how bands like Kasabian are under rated and under appreciated on this board.

[Matt42]

24 minutes ago, Glastocat said:

Agreed mate. You would think Kasabian were one hit wonders off the Britpop era reading a few of the posts on here.?

I understand that people want a more diverse set of headliners and for EE to not play it safe but Stormzy played the 2017 festival subbing the other stage. Would people think Emili Sande is a good headliner or Lorde? That's without releasing any new material in the time since. Yes I know Stormzy has a second album to come before the festival but know one knows what the reception to that will be like. Hopefully his second album is massive and this booking then looks like a masterstroke.

 

 

Lorde 100% SHOULD raise to headliner level

whether she will I doubt but heck she’s a great artist

[stuartbert two hats]

3 minutes ago, beau1 said:

 

Oh yeah, forgot about that one...

[Glastocat]

4 minutes ago, jparx said:

I think there is a definite element of gambling with the Stormzy booking because of that factor. If his second album tanks then the booking could look very silly.

I doubt it will, the guy is on a roll at the minute, but there's a chance. 

With all that being said - I'm chuffed they have taken that gamble. Stormzy isn't my cup of tea, but hopefully this means they start to take more gambles. To be clear - I'm not saying it's a gamble because he isn't big enough, rather it's a tall order to headline off the back of one widely praised album and one TBA.

I agree that it is a gamble of sorts and it will be very interesting what headlines the other on Friday night. 

[Doug85]

1 minute ago, Glastocat said:

Yeah, I understood that mate. I was just exaggerating my point to prove how bands like Kasabian are under rated and under appreciated on this board.

Fair enough, different strokes for different folks and all that though. It's what makes this place great. We all love a debate. 

[chatty]

4 minutes ago, Doug85 said:

To be clear my posts were only regarding Kasabian not being a stronger booking than Macca whether individually or as part of a collective set of headliners. They were not one hit wonders but there is no way they would be classed as a stronger booking than Macca. 

I don't think anyone was saying that, they were saying that the collective headliners of Metallica, Kasabian and Arcade Fire were overall a stronger collective line up of what may be The Cure, Stormzy and Lady Gaga. 

I don't think that's really all that disputable right now. Stormzy clearly the lesser mainstream artist of the six talking in this point in time, Lady Gaga, other than a film had her peak a few years back and hasn't done a lot major since and The Cure are a stable long term rock band who are well known but not any sort of juggernaut level. 

Obviously that perception can change with time. We might even get those headliners, even if so Gaga might go on to have a resurgence on the back of this movie and Stormzy might well go on to become a mega star. Or not. 

Time will tell but speaking as of now then I think that's a fair enough statement to make.