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As much as I find what he either confessed to or accused of wrong

I'm not a fan of "witch-hunt mentality", where we dig up something wrong about someone and vilify them for it until the end (and probably even beyond) their existence.

I know what he was accused/found guilty of/whatever was pretty bad but that has no bearing on his music or his band.

Sounds a bit like Metallica last year, people don't like them so they try to dig something up to defame the act and try to do some 'social justice'.

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As much as I find what he either confessed to or accused of wrong

I'm not a fan of "witch-hunt mentality", where we dig up something wrong about someone and vilify them for it until the end (and probably even beyond) their existence.

I know what he was accused/found guilty of/whatever was pretty bad but that has no bearing on his music or his band.

Sounds a bit like Metallica last year, people don't like them so they try to dig something up to defame the act and try to do some 'social justice'.

I think I understand what you're saying but please just clarify that you aren't saying that bear hunting is on a level with 'researching' child pornography???? Edited by Zac Quinn
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I think I understand what you're saying but please just clarify that you aren't saying that bear hunting is on a level with 'researching' child pornography????

Completely, I understand they aren't really comparable but it just seems a bit like a trend.

"I don't like this act, so i'm gonna find something and make them look like a bad person". It's this mentality that they think they are actually doing something good.

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I've been on a stag do in Bangor all weekend with zero internet access. What have a missed in a nutshell? Will catch up when I'm home this evening...

The Who are Sundays headliners

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I've been on a stag do in Bangor all weekend with zero internet access. What have a missed in a nutshell? Will catch up when I'm home this evening...

The Sun has an apparently insider source saying that the Who will rearrange their Sunday night show in Paris so that they can headline Sunday at Glastonbury. The source goes on to say that Paul Weller or Noel Gallagher will support.

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Completely, I understand they aren't really comparable but it just seems a bit like a trend.

"I don't like this act, so i'm gonna find something and make them look like a bad person". It's this mentality that they think they are actually doing something good.

Or some of us actually have the capacity to acknowledge the awful shit that talented people have done, weigh up how we feel about it and how it makes us feel about their body of work and make a personal decision based upon that period of reflection, all while also being aware that our decision may be inconsistent or hypocritical due to the inescapable nature of celebrity culture and the cult of personality around creative types.

Winslow out.

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Completely, I understand they aren't really comparable but it just seems a bit like a trend.

"I don't like this act, so i'm gonna find something and make them look like a bad person". It's this mentality that they think they are actually doing something good.

I like the who, but don't like the link to child porn.

Now what?

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Completely, I understand they aren't really comparable but it just seems a bit like a trend.

"I don't like this act, so i'm gonna find something and make them look like a bad person". It's this mentality that they think they are actually doing something good.

Based on what you're saying I take it you'd have no problem with Lostprophets being booked, because Ian Watkins' behaviour has no effect on their music?

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Or some of us actually have the capacity to acknowledge the awful shit that talented people have done, weigh up how we feel about it and how it makes us feel about their body of work and make a personal decision based upon that period of reflection, all while also being aware that our decision may be inconsistent or hypocritical due to the inescapable nature of celebrity culture and the cult of personality around creative types.

Winslow out.

Fucking hell, what a great post

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I like the who, but don't like the link to child porn.

Now what?

Whatever you please russ, I highly doubt i'l be in the field for the Who, I don't like the links to the child pornography but that's not the reason I won't be seeing them.

Should be a consideration of whether what he's done is extreme enough for you to dislike the band, it's subjective.

Based on what you're saying I take it you'd have no problem with Lostprophets being booked, because Ian Watkins' behaviour has no effect on their music?

Wouldn't have an effect on the music, but Booking Ian Watkins is a completely different situation, seeing as what he did was to a greater extreme and he shows no real remorse. I think what he did was disgusting and not really comparable to the other situation.Ian was caught doing something guilty, whereas (as far as I know) it was only allegedly that the Who guy did those acts?

I don't see it comparable at all, I find both bad.

I'd rather the Who were not playing, in all honesty. But i don't care much seeing as the beautiful Chemical Brothers are playing :)

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I think I understand what you're saying but please just clarify that you aren't saying that bear hunting is on a level with 'researching' child pornography????

It's extremely crass to start weighing up which despicable acts are more excusable than others. But Metallica are out and proud hunters, even had an introductory video of them mooning the crowd with how not sorry they are about it, Townsend has a cover story for his alleged wrongdoings, which the old bill seem to have bought.

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Before anyone tries harder to pick at what i'm saying I am not condoning any acts, or being an apologist for any acts.

I'm just saying there is a trend that when people don't like a headliner, there seems to be some sort of effort to bring up something in their past as a reason why everyone else should dislike them too...

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I'm not 100% sure what I will do on the Sunday yet. Seen Chemical Brothers before and I'm well up for seeing them again. This is the only chance I'm probably gonna have to see The Who. I like plenty of their songs, the only doubt in my mind is if they are going to still be good live. What will probably sway it one way or the other is how fucked I am on the Sunday and who is subbing both bands as well. If it was Noel subbing The Who and I'm done in then I'll probably be more than happy to spend my night at the Pyramid. Won't be there on the Friday and Saturday so that's not such a band thing.

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Completely, I understand they aren't really comparable but it just seems a bit like a trend.

"I don't like this act, so i'm gonna find something and make them look like a bad person". It's this mentality that they think they are actually doing something good.

In some ways I agree with you, but comparing paedophilia with bear hunting is like comparing rape with shoplifting.

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Before anyone tries harder to pick at what i'm saying I am not condoning any acts, or being an apologist for any acts.

I'm just saying there is a trend that when people don't like a headliner, there seems to be some sort of effort to bring up something in their past as a reason why everyone else should dislike them too...

Some on here have used that in particular to call out those who want to see them too. Unbelievable.

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Fucking hell, what a great post

One of many, one of several users on this site whose words are an education (like your good self).

How about we drop the spanish inquisition over whether someone's spent punishment matters and get back to the subject in hand now, rampant speculation based on little more than guesswork.

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The Sun has an apparently insider source saying that the Who will rearrange their Sunday night show in Paris so that they can headline Sunday at Glastonbury. The source goes on to say that Paul Weller or Noel Gallagher will support.

Not impressed with that so chems it is for me. Saw the who in 05 and not a big enough fan to watch them again.

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I agree it's a shit thing to do, but the fact is if people loved a band enough they wouldn't have such strong principals. If this was your favourite band in the world who rearranged a date in Paris to headline Glastonbury, would you turn your nose up to it because they have shit on their own fans?

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