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When will this shit end?


Chrisp1986

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Just now, Paul ™ said:

Nonsense, 5 weeks is too long. Plenty evidence coming out now that the vaccine is doing as well as expected, and transmission reduction better than hoped.

3 weeks is the right timescale between steps, as long as the tests are being met.

Seems a bit harsh to downvote just for that. But I feel if more things are going to be opened up in the opening stages then a longer time span in between is a fair compromise for that. There has to be some kind of give and take both ways. As I said I feel it’s a fair compromise, I’m just trying to look at the positives of any changes that come in. 

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12 minutes ago, zahidf said:

Pfizer and AZ vaccines reduce hospital admissions by 85% and 94%, study suggests

The Covid vaccination programme has been linked to a substantial reduction in hospital admissions, PA Media is reporting. The PA story goes on:

Researchers examined coronavirus hospital admissions in Scotland among people who have had their first jab and compared them with those who had not yet received a dose of the vaccine.

Scientists from the University of Edinburgh, the University of Strathclyde and Public Health Scotland examined data on people who had received either the Pfizer/BioNTech jab or the one developed by experts at the University of Oxford with AstraZeneca.

By the fourth week after receiving the initial dose, the Pfizer and Oxford/AstraZeneca vaccines were shown to reduce the risk of hospital admission from Covid-19 by up to 85% and 94%, respectively, they found.

I wonder why the AZ vaccine is showing a better result than the Pfizer one- is it low sample size or did front-line health workers and more risky people get the Pfizer?

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Just now, Fuzzy Afro said:

I think it’s 6 OR two households. So you can meet with 5 of your mates, but 2 families can meet in their entirety. 

Are kids included or excluded?

I don't think many people will include them in the figure of 6 when meeting up...

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14 minutes ago, st dan said:

The main thing is that it looks like number of positive cases alone is not going to be a determining factor - despite some scientists pushing for it. 

Thankfully the zero covid morons like Devi Sridhar, Deepti Gurdasani and Gabriel Scally have been widely ignored then. 

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2 minutes ago, Mr.Tease said:

Can't believe he's listening to scientists in a pandemic! What is the world coming to?!

I know, he should be listening to them and whilst he can’t follow all of their advice if he takes it on board and adjusts some policies accordingly that’s a good thing in my mind.

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28 minutes ago, gizmoman said:

I think you've exaggerated my contributions as far as the vax goes, I have certainly asked questions and I don't think that's unreasonable given this is all new,  I haven't told anyone not to have the vax nor would I, it's a personal choice you make based on your own perceptions, I doubt if my contributions have made any efester decide not to get jabbed, indeed the overwhelming consensus on this thread is pro-jab. In any case why would I want to undermine the vaccine effort? The more people who get vaccinated the safer I am, whether I get the jab or not.

I have no idea why? I suspect you enjoy these conspiracies as an intellectual exercise, hence your vacillating between more sensible posts (Like the one above.) and the more outlandish (Glastonbury 2022 cancelled due to new climate emergency  based lockdown! Why is Bill Gates smiling?)

I actually suspect you'll take the vaccine yourself when offered it.

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18 minutes ago, Ozanne said:

5 weeks also seems like a fair compromise between what some of the experts would want and some of the people like the CRG. 

Given what we now know about how successful the vaccines are at preventing hospitalisation, 5 weeks is too long. Scientists have previously stated that 3 weeks should be sufficient to see the data, so with this and the positive vaccine news in mind, 5 weeks is completely unnecessary in my opinion 

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24 minutes ago, zahidf said:

Pfizer and AZ vaccines reduce hospital admissions by 85% and 94%, study suggests

The Covid vaccination programme has been linked to a substantial reduction in hospital admissions, PA Media is reporting. The PA story goes on:

Researchers examined coronavirus hospital admissions in Scotland among people who have had their first jab and compared them with those who had not yet received a dose of the vaccine.

Scientists from the University of Edinburgh, the University of Strathclyde and Public Health Scotland examined data on people who had received either the Pfizer/BioNTech jab or the one developed by experts at the University of Oxford with AstraZeneca.

By the fourth week after receiving the initial dose, the Pfizer and Oxford/AstraZeneca vaccines were shown to reduce the risk of hospital admission from Covid-19 by up to 85% and 94%, respectively, they found.

Lift hospitality earlier. Let people see eachother again. Let us go to the gym.

I won’t be surprised if there’s a U turn on this cautious approach and things open faster.

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The difference between a 3 week review and a 5 week review before moving through the steps would lead to a total of 6 additional weeks throughout the roadmap.
After our lives have been on hold for over a year, that’s a long time to delay unnecessarily. 

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1 minute ago, st dan said:

The difference between a 3 week review and a 5 week review before moving through the steps would lead to a total of 6 additional weeks throughout the roadmap.
After our lives have been on hold for over a year, that’s a long time to delay unnecessarily. 

YUp. evidnece is that the vaccines work really well after 1 dose. Stop locking us up for longer than is necessary

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3 minutes ago, st dan said:

The difference between a 3 week review and a 5 week review before moving through the steps would lead to a total of 6 additional weeks throughout the roadmap.
After our lives have been on hold for over a year, that’s a long time to delay unnecessarily. 

 

1 minute ago, zahidf said:

YUp. evidnece is that the vaccines work really well after 1 dose. Stop locking us up for longer than is necessary

Totally agree, more and more ongoing data to come as well as we're moving into the summer months.

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12 minutes ago, Ozanne said:

I know, he should be listening to them and whilst he can’t follow all of their advice if he takes it on board and adjusts some policies accordingly that’s a good thing in my mind.

Agreed, not sure why anyone would be against that

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32 minutes ago, zahidf said:

Pfizer and AZ vaccines reduce hospital admissions by 85% and 94%, study suggests

The Covid vaccination programme has been linked to a substantial reduction in hospital admissions, PA Media is reporting. The PA story goes on:

Researchers examined coronavirus hospital admissions in Scotland among people who have had their first jab and compared them with those who had not yet received a dose of the vaccine.

Scientists from the University of Edinburgh, the University of Strathclyde and Public Health Scotland examined data on people who had received either the Pfizer/BioNTech jab or the one developed by experts at the University of Oxford with AstraZeneca.

By the fourth week after receiving the initial dose, the Pfizer and Oxford/AstraZeneca vaccines were shown to reduce the risk of hospital admission from Covid-19 by up to 85% and 94%, respectively, they found.

EU disaster with AZ.

Remember those news reports talking about “8% efficacy for >65s” with no further context. And Macron’s comments. Jesus.

 

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