When will this shit end?

[JoeyT]

 

[Chapple12345]

2 minutes ago, JoeyT said:

 

How can you lose track of positive tests from over a month ago?? I can remember something similar happening with deaths when they were being reported months on end after they’d happened 

[Spindles]

@crazyfool1 Yeah, like I say, I normally giggle at people who believe in these things and I'm not averse to going on a flight of fancy on thin evidence once in a while that I later feel a tit for ever thinking. I'm just remembering how shitty BJ looked on all the few bits of broadcast we got to see of him over that week (not least him looking like a bowl of cold sick on the doorstep of Downing street the evening before he went into hospital) and I can only conclude that they are either being really cautious and he's lucky enough to have a really mild case or this is a stage managed event.

[Matt42]

Can we start the theory that trump is being cloned? He’s gone to the hospital to get his clone made as he knows he is a gonner!

[Guest]

10 minutes ago, Spindles said:

@crazyfool1 Yeah, like I say, I normally giggle at people who believe in these things and I'm not averse to going on a flight of fancy on thin evidence once in a while that I later feel a tit for ever thinking. I'm just remembering how shitty BJ looked on all the few bits of broadcast we got to see of him over that week (not least him looking like a bowl of cold sick on the doorstep of Downing street the evening before he went into hospital) and I can only conclude that they are either being really cautious and he's lucky enough to have a really mild case or this is a stage managed event.

I don't think it's staged and he's actually well in a bid to garner votes. I think he's more ill than they are letting on and those photos are staged from when he was at the WH in a bid to make it our he's actually doing fine.

[Spindles]

@Ozanne I think that sounds far more reasonable and much more likely.  I just don't trust the snake and the timing is perfect.  The October surprise he promised. It has reinvigorated his base, that much is clear.

I am probably just being paranoid again.  It happens.

[Guest]

10 minutes ago, Spindles said:

@Ozanne I think that sounds far more reasonable and much more likely.  I just don't trust the snake and the timing is perfect.  The October surprise he promised. It has reinvigorated his base, that much is clear.

I am probably just being paranoid again.  It happens.

It’s understandable given his whole administration is based on miss-information and deflection. 

[steviewevie]

Maybe like they say, Trump did have a fever, did require oxygen, but since being at hospital and on whatever medications they've given him he is doing better. But, he still has some way to go with this illness.

[Guest]

5 minutes ago, steviewevie said:

Maybe like they say, Trump did have a fever, did require oxygen, but since being at hospital and on whatever medications they've given him he is doing better. But, he still has some way to go with this illness.

If that’s the case which it could be then why release those photos which as pointed out are 10 minutes apart, in different rooms, shows him signing a blank bit of paper and shows backgrounds don’t appear to be in any of the stock photos of his Presidential Suite at that hospital?

[Crazyfool01]

1 minute ago, Ozanne said:

If that’s the case which it could be then why release those photos which as pointed out are 10 minutes apart, in different rooms, shows him signing a blank bit of paper and shows backgrounds don’t appear to be in any of the stock photos of his Presidential Suite at that hospital?

I’ve not found or seen any yet ? But I wonder if someone might find them in stock whitehouse photos ... probably far too many rooms there though for photos in all of them 

[rivalschools.price]

The most bizarre part about the conspiracy theories around Trump’s illness is the fact that people would be more likely to vote for him if he has Covid-19.

Id question the sanity of anyone voting for Trump anyway but it’s difficult to get into the mindset of someone being on the fence but swaying towards Trump due him getting the virus.

[steviewevie]

1 minute ago, Ozanne said:

If that’s the case which it could be then why release those photos which as pointed out are 10 minutes apart, in different rooms, shows him signing a blank bit of paper and shows backgrounds don’t appear to be in any of the stock photos of his Presidential Suite at that hospital?

Yeah, I don't know. I mean it's all to assure people he's still working...when in reality he probably isn't. But, we just have to believe what the doctor tells us...if he still in hospital by next weekend then we'll know there is a problem.

[steviewevie]

Just now, rivalschools.price said:

The most bizarre part about the conspiracy theories around Trump’s illness is the fact that people would be more likely to vote for him if he has Covid-19.

Id question the sanity of anyone voting for Trump anyway but it’s difficult to get into the mindset of someone being on the fence but swaying towards Trump due him getting the virus.

Yeah, would be kind of funny if this ends up swinging the election for him. I mean funny in a kind of dark, sick sort of way.

[FestivalJamie]

UK is officially up there in the red zone

[Guest]

26 minutes ago, steviewevie said:

Yeah, I don't know. I mean it's all to assure people he's still working...when in reality he probably isn't. But, we just have to believe what the doctor tells us...if he still in hospital by next weekend then we'll know there is a problem.

This President doesn’t get that benefit of the doubt. He’s spent his entire time in office lying, spreading doubt and general miss-information therefore my instinctive thought is there is some form of lie here. He doesn’t get to lie for years then still have people believe him.

[gizmoman]

3 hours ago, Frankly Mr Shankly said:

So would you use that same justification for say using the n word because 'some black people promote and play along with it'? 

No, maybe the example I used wasn't good, the guys in the pride parade are portraying the subculture in a fun, positive way, and you could argue the Dom picture is sending out a negative message, I don't think that was the intention and that is why I don't have a problem with it.

[Spindles]

11 minutes ago, FestivalJamie said:

UK is officially up there in the red zone

Black text on a red background.  All around the world graphic designers are clawing at their eyeballs.

[Ayrshire Chris]

[FestivalJamie]

18 minutes ago, Spindles said:

Black text on a red background.  All around the world graphic designers are clawing at their eyeballs.

It’s not mine it’s from Twitter hahah

[Spindles]

Indeed, sorry it just reminded me of those rage against the machine tour posters that made you feel like you were losing your vision when trying to read the dates.  Black text on red is a no-no!

[steviewevie]

Are Tory MPs really so surprised that Boris Johnson is a poor prime minister?

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2020/oct/04/are-tory-mps-really-so-surprised-that-mr-johnson-is-a-poor-prime-minister

[Crazyfool01]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-54389083

 

Disappearing Covid-19 app alerts cause alarm

[Guest]

This made me chuckle, Jim Carrey as Joe Biden is brilliant. 

[Homer]

I've banged this drum before - but if you want to know about Trump's criminal activity, I can't recommend this book/interview enough:

https://www.vogue.com/article/sarah-kendzior-interview-hiding-in-plain-sight-donald-trump

[RobertProsineckisLighter]

3 hours ago, FestivalJamie said:

Hmmm but ONS is reporting 8600 infections a day but the gov has been reporting consistently 7000, and then lumped loads of extra cases on today in a backlog, meaning Thursday was over 10,000 confirmed cases.

So I find it hard to trust the ONS when the gov are reporting more cases than the ONS study, and the government are normally catching only 30-50% of cases in the wider picture, as lots of people still can’t get tests.

I would say we are probably sitting at around 20-25k cases a day at the moment, but whether the r is levelled off or not I have no clue anymore.

The truth is we have no idea how many cases a day we have that's for a plethora of reasons. People don't know they have it so don't get tested, people can't get tests, the delay in turning the results around. Factor in that some of the ONS stuff is predictions.

I'm not saying believe everything, but equally to be so distrusting of ordinary every day folk must be hard work. The people working at ONS, NHS Digital, NHS X etc... Are just ordinary people doing their job and the best they can in some very trying circumstances. 

Short of being sensible, and keeping an eye for your loved ones and people you care about there isn't really a lot you can do. 

The more you agonise over the numbers the further down the rabbit hole you go, the further down that hole you go the further you have to come out of it and the harder it will be to return to whatever the new normality is. 

I just worry about the additional stresses and strains people are putting on top of everything else.

 

Edited October 4, 2020 by RobertProsineckisLighter