When will this shit end?

[steviewevie]

1 minute ago, zahidf said:

So no schools spike.

thought they were plague factories...?

[incident]

7 minutes ago, RobertProsineckisLighter said:

0-64 - be interesting to see that range broken down 

It's not, yet. The official figures break it down as 0-49 and 50-64 but I combine those for the graph because they don't show much of anything. Would imagine that 2-4 weeks from now they'll start to diverge a lot more as the vaccines from the over 50s have had time to take effect (remembering that vaccines need 2-3 weeks to start affecting infections, and then another couple to impact on deaths).

[northernringo]

30 minutes ago, steviewevie said:

you mean like this

This chart is dreadful, why plot this on a y axis with different size intervals? As @stuartbert two hats said, it needs to be plotted logarithmically 

Obviously not having a go at you @steviewevie, just the chart itself!

[august1]

as there been any warnings not to meet up over Easter? I don't seem to remember anything for mothers day either

[steviewevie]

2 minutes ago, august1 said:

as there been any warnings not to meet up over Easter? I don't seem to remember anything for mothers day either

easter is same as all other days...meet outside etc.

[Ozanne]

6 minutes ago, august1 said:

as there been any warnings not to meet up over Easter? I don't seem to remember anything for mothers day either

The messaging has been to meet outside ‘safely’ and enjoy the fresh air. Mother’s Day was different we were still under the stay at home order. 

[duke88]

16 minutes ago, JoeyT said:

It'll be interesting to see how low we get given the (I assume) decrease in lateral flow tests over the next 2 weeks due to school hols.

Been told to keep testing over the Easter holidays at my son's school. We did one on Monday, and got sent another reminder to do one today even though he's been off school this week.

[Simsy]

36 minutes ago, Fuzzy Afro said:

 

I know very little about the viruses you refer to but the fact they "wiped out the native population" suggests they are far more serious than covid-19.

 

Unless you're over 70 or have some pretty serious health issues then there's a great chance that you won't even realise you have it. Older and more vulnerable people die and those without swiss cheese immune systems are absolutely fine. That's exactly how "bog standard viruses" work.

Weren't there some breakdowns published showing that the underlying conditions of people who died included things like broken legs and depression? Covid isn't just killing people who were already at death's door.

[steviewevie]

7 minutes ago, duke88 said:

Been told to keep testing over the Easter holidays at my son's school. We did one on Monday, and got sent another reminder to do one today even though he's been off school this week.

yeah, my kid has to keep testing twice a week.

[efcfanwirral]

38 minutes ago, Barry Fish said:

Basically we could really do with getting on with the people in the 30s and 40s and then we are home free.... 🙂  Anyone still dieing above that age is unlucky there protection hadn't built up yet.  

I reckon just over 40s - that seems to be where the hospitalisations really drop off from a rare breakdown of the 0-64 year olds the other week. Especially alongside the cases heatmap showing under 40s had many cases but it didn't translate to much in hospitalisations 

[RobertProsineckisLighter]

34 minutes ago, incident said:

It's not, yet. The official figures break it down as 0-49 and 50-64 but I combine those for the graph because they don't show much of anything. Would imagine that 2-4 weeks from now they'll start to diverge a lot more as the vaccines from the over 50s have had time to take effect (remembering that vaccines need 2-3 weeks to start affecting infections, and then another couple to impact on deaths).

That not much of anything is showing that younger folk don't tend to die, and they don't die of Covid. 

[mcshed]

43 minutes ago, northernringo said:

This chart is dreadful, why plot this on a y axis with different size intervals? As @stuartbert two hats said, it needs to be plotted logarithmically 

Is this some kind of late April Fool's joke, the y axis is different sizes because it is plotted logarithmically?

[stuartbert two hats]

20 minutes ago, mcshed said:

Is this some kind of late April Fool's joke, the y axis is different sizes because it is plotted logarithmically?

I was confused for a minute, thinking that maybe log graphs double in an equal space, but according to this, they can increase by any scale, e.g. multiply by 10, as per this example from wikipedia.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Logarithmic_scale#:~:text=A logarithmic scale (or log,larger than the smallest numbers.

 

So I think Stevie's graph is presented logarithmically, and I think it's the appropriate scale when including B117, and that a linear scale is appropriate when not including B117.

So his graphs were all fine, once you've realised the first one didn't include the prevalent variant.

Edited April 1, 2021 by stuartbert two hats

[steviewevie]

 

[mcshed]

14 minutes ago, stuartbert two hats said:

I was confused for a minute, thinking that maybe log graphs double in an equal space, but according to this, they can increase by any scale, e.g. multiply by 10, as per this example from wikipedia.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Logarithmic_scale#:~:text=A logarithmic scale (or log,larger than the smallest numbers.

 

So I think Stevie's graph is presented logarithmically, and I think it's the appropriate scale when including B117, and that a linear scale is appropriate when not including B117.

So his graphs were all fine, once you've realised the first one didn't include the prevalent variant.

That's what I was saying, Ringo seemed to both be complaining that it wasn't a log graph and that the y scale was logarithmic.

[Leyrulion]

1 hour ago, zahidf said:

So no schools spike.

Doesn't seem to have been anything significant or at least not enough to offset the decrease in cases in the elderly, which is excellent news. 

 

[Fuzzy Afro]

Yes lad.

 

Whitty should never have to buy a pint again. 

[stuartbert two hats]

17 minutes ago, mcshed said:

That's what I was saying, Ringo seemed to both be complaining that it wasn't a log graph and that the y scale was logarithmic.

Yes, I'm agreeing with you.

[steviewevie]

So, we all good with log graphs now?

[Leyrulion]

So I make it that the situation is roughly where we were at the end of September, which was when SAGE was recommending circuit breaker. 

Pretty content with the timeline and schedule. 

[eFestivals]

Theres a new house doc today who is working on getting me my jab in hospital maybe nezxt week. 

[JoeyT]

My local authority is down to 9 cases per 100k.

Open the gates to freedom Boris.

[Fuzzy Afro]

10 minutes ago, JoeyT said:

My local authority is down to 9 cases per 100k.

Open the gates to freedom Boris.

Honestly, I know it’s annoying not having hospitality/shops/gyms etc, but it’s time to start taking personal decisions on how many people you’re going to socialise with and whether you want to do it indoors or stick to the outside only mandate.

 

Rules on private gatherings are unenforceable. 

[Crazyfool01]

27 minutes ago, JoeyT said:

My local authority is down to 9 cases per 100k.

Open the gates to freedom Boris.

Are you campaigning at every stage of opening ? I thought you said you would be happy once we got to meet friends again ... which has now happened ? not long till non essential retail either ..

[steviewevie]

55 minutes ago, Leyrulion said:

So I make it that the situation is roughly where we were at the end of September, which was when SAGE was recommending circuit breaker. 

Pretty content with the timeline and schedule. 

but then we were going wrong way...right? maybe better to compare it to last June or July?