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When will this shit end?


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4 minutes ago, RossTC said:

Day 3 since my positive test and i can confirm i feel absolutely awful. No smell, bad cough and fever and headaches that come and go with the wind. Im single jabbed 6 weeks ago and someone who just doesn't get ill. Don't take it lightly, its still out there with quite the bite on it.

Exactly the same as my 36 year old brother

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1 minute ago, slumberjack said:

So how many more infections have we had in the UK compared to Netherlands? What figures are you comparing? According to our world in data, Netherlands have had 103,000 cases per 100,000 in total compared to 76,000 in the UK.  

Not disagreeing with you, just trying to establish what your comment regarding natural immunity is based on. 

What will help in Europe are those long school summer holidays which end in September, also the hot weather. If comparing you can also look up at all the incidences of European countries here (a german site): 

https://de.statista.com/statistik/daten/studie/1180169/umfrage/laender-mit-den-meisten-coronainfektionen-in-der-letzten-woche-in-europa/

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33 minutes ago, MrBarry465 said:

I feel like when the vaccines first started circulating they were heralded as the nail in the coffin and did in fact break transmission and your chances of catching it.

Doesn't look to be the case now.

they reduce transmission though, right? Not sure how much by.

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11 minutes ago, RossTC said:

Day 3 since my positive test and i can confirm i feel absolutely awful. No smell, bad cough and fever and headaches that come and go with the wind. Im single jabbed 6 weeks ago and someone who just doesn't get ill. Don't take it lightly, its still out there with quite the bite on it.

ooof. Take it easy. I've heard that people think they're over it and do too much and then it comes back and knocks them for six again, and that can be when some of the long covid stuff starts to kick in. So...even if you think you're fully recovered give your body a bit more time.

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9 minutes ago, slumberjack said:

So how many more infections have we had in the UK compared to Netherlands? What figures are you comparing? According to our world in data, Netherlands have had 103,000 cases per 100,000 in total compared to 76,000 in the UK.  

Not disagreeing with you, just trying to establish what your comment regarding natural immunity is based on. 

Agree on your comment regarding NHS BTW.  

Ok ignore my comment about past infections, I am well off there I should have looked it up.

We do have a substantial amount more double vaccinated though which will help us imo.

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2 minutes ago, Hannibal Schmitt said:

What will help in Europe are those long school summer holidays which end in September, also the hot weather. If comparing you can also look up at all the incidences of European countries here (a german site): 

https://de.statista.com/statistik/daten/studie/1180169/umfrage/laender-mit-den-meisten-coronainfektionen-in-der-letzten-woche-in-europa/

Thanks.  This looks like cases over the last week? can it show total cases since the beginning of last year? That's what I was trying to find and ended up here (you may need to change country selection and metric): https://ourworldindata.org/covid-vaccinations

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Just now, efcfanwirral said:

I'm almost certain that'll be me after latitude too! Though I'll be 3 weeks after first so maybe worse. Worth it? Probably! 

It's a (calculated) risk I'm willing to take. After weighing up the facts, I'm fit and healthy with zero co-morbidities and double-jabbed. I'm not going to be in any stronger a position than I am right now so I'm throwing a little caution to the wind and going to have a good time at Latitude. As I said above, there's an inevitability of me catching it at some point but I'll continue to take the precautions necessary to hold it off for as long as possible, including mask-wearing and all the other recommended measures

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7 minutes ago, efcfanwirral said:

Hospitality to get the blame, screwing them long term. Its a shame so many need full capacity to survive, if all of them were able to stick two fingers up to the government's "reopening" and keep measures as they are now, then they wouldn't be able to be blamed.

I don't think so...surely the blame lies on govt who allow these things to open.

Maybe we won't be as bad as Netherlands in terms of cases increasing as we're already pretty high? Or is that naive?

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Just now, fraybentos1 said:

Ok ignore my comment about past infections, I am well off there I should have looked it up.

We do have a substantial amount more double vaccinated though which will help us imo.

I only looked it up out of interest as I presumed that you were correct! 🙂

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5 minutes ago, efcfanwirral said:

Hospitality to get the blame, screwing them long term. Its a shame so many need full capacity to survive, if all of them were able to stick two fingers up to the government's "reopening" and keep measures as they are now, then they wouldn't be able to be blamed.

You know what i distinctly remember the scientists in the briefings being cautious and saying something along the lines of "if a vaccine reduces severity this will be a big win" and basically said what @Toilet Duck says that it won't fully get rid of transmission but if it does at a certain percentage that's really good.

But then the politicians and the media jumped on the early case drops correlating with rollout and declared them this magic bullet to eliminate the virus. But we were in lockdown at the time so the transmission reduction seems to have corrected itself towards the original estimates, which were always said to be good and better than we could hope for. I've been basing my own opinions on those early things that were said so haven't been hugely surprised by the infected and symptomatic double jabbed people. 

The media and politicians getting carried away...sounds familiar! 

The reporting of this Netherlands stuff is unreal. Pretty much every headline is "Netherlands sees huge spike after nightclubs reopen". This despite only a third of the new cases being attributed to a hospitality venue. And of those, I assume the definition is that if someone was in a pub/club in the previous few days then they must've caught covid in there. 

Also very little mention that, as yet, hospital admissions have stayed stable. 

Clear that once again, everything is being set up to blame hospitality when cases inevitable rise in the next few weeks. 

Fully expect the clubs to be closed and social distancing back in pubs by the end of August. 

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17 minutes ago, MrBarry465 said:

Yup, all the best mate.

Most people I know who have caught it around my age recently (30's) have been totally rocked by it....

Yep im 33, friends who were with me also gone down and dont feel great.

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5 minutes ago, slumberjack said:

Thanks.  This looks like cases over the last week? can it show total cases since the beginning of last year? That's what I was trying to find and ended up here (you may need to change country selection and metric): https://ourworldindata.org/covid-vaccinations

it can show the total cases around the World since the beginning also including UK and Netherlands. These data come from the John Hopkins University:

https://de.statista.com/statistik/daten/studie/1090985/umfrage/fallzahl-des-coronavirus-2019-ncov-nach-laendern/

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12 hours ago, stuartbert two hats said:

It's frustrating how slow policy has been to adapt from a supply constrained, AZ dominated situation to an population constrained, mRNA dominated situation. It's been pretty clear for a while that the 8 week gap doesn't make much sense for the people currently being vaccinated.

I only got my first jab yesterday as been out the country for the last two months. I don't especially want to wait until September for my second Pfizer jab if I don't have to! 

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11 minutes ago, steviewevie said:

ooof. Take it easy. I've heard that people think they're over it and do too much and then it comes back and knocks them for six again, and that can be when some of the long covid stuff starts to kick in. So...even if you think you're fully recovered give your body a bit more time.

Sounds about right, i cooked some dinner last night and that was enough to send me West and make me feel the worst i have so far. Takeaways it is...

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43 minutes ago, RossTC said:

Day 3 since my positive test and i can confirm i feel absolutely awful. No smell, bad cough and fever and headaches that come and go with the wind. Im single jabbed 6 weeks ago and someone who just doesn't get ill. Don't take it lightly, its still out there with quite the bite on it.

Sounds horrible. Feel better soon.

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I'm going sailing this weekend and beginning to think we'll be safer at sea than we will be on land given the current rates!

My tonsils are giving me grief from all the LFT's i've been doing recently. 

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Considering this lot don't care what they said even a couple of days ago or think people will forget, I still wouldn't be surprised if "if not now, when" turns into another "heavy heart" on Friday if we get the expected euros final spike in cases today/tomorrow/friday

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1 minute ago, efcfanwirral said:

Considering this lot don't care what they said even a couple of days ago or think people will forget, I still wouldn't be surprised if "if not now, when" turns into another "heavy heart" on Friday if we get the expected euros final spike in cases today/tomorrow/friday

Nah, this won't happen, so there's no point spending energy preparing yourself for it. There'll be a spike but all the noises show they've clearly commited to the 19th now and then will see what happens.

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4 minutes ago, efcfanwirral said:

Considering this lot don't care what they said even a couple of days ago or think people will forget, I still wouldn't be surprised if "if not now, when" turns into another "heavy heart" on Friday if we get the expected euros final spike in cases today/tomorrow/friday

Nope. Following the CRG advice. They are a research group after all so know what they're talking about. Looking like there is a push for masks to be kind of made mandatory on public transport though, just not by the government.

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26 minutes ago, RossTC said:

Sounds about right, i cooked some dinner last night and that was enough to send me West and make me feel the worst i have so far. Takeaways it is...

Whats the old wives tale ?  Is it feed a cold, starve a fever?  

I think its all bollocks anyway ha! Get well soon

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1 minute ago, steviewevie said:

Nope. Following the CRG advice. They are a research group after all so know what they're talking about. Looking like there is a push for masks to be kind of made mandatory on public transport though, just not by the government.

YUp, the real opposition the CRG, making sure we arent locked in our house by over eager Zero Covidiots

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11 hours ago, Barry Fish said:

He was screaming for us to reopen the other week and now he is screaming for masks.

Playing politics. 

There's nothing at all contradictory about those two positions. Not unless you're starting to buy into the "us versus them" thing that goes on in here where the only two allowed stances are "open up everything" and "lockdown forever".

It shows how polarised the discussion has got though.

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I think the government will be secretly pleased the Euros happened when it did, with the undeniable spike in cases that has risen from people watching it either at Wembley or with their family and friends etc. It gets a lot of those people who haven’t been fully jabbed yet ‘out of the way’ whilst still in the summer months, meaning there is still more than enough hospital capacity required at present. This peak in the Autumn would have had much worse impact.
I don’t see how there will be another peak again when this exit wave is over - or will there? 

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